7 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Two things Gaff would have seriously learnt in the last two weeks:

He's got the monkey on his back from WC/Flag, and all who sail in her, and

He's not going to readily get rid of it at North.....

 

I reckon there’s 8.4 million reasons why he’ll move on pretty quickly. 

Edited October 2, 20186 yr by Ethan Tremblay

If Gaff wasn't in this equation i would have thought hard on Brayshaw, but i reckon it's complicated.

I also think there's a couple of young beauties at Footscray, but hard to prise out.  There is also a value player to think hard on turning a son of a gun into a gun backman MK2 from Black and white

I'm not that fussed to be honest. It strikes me as a 'nice' idea...not maybe a getable one. That said what are the plan B's ??

13 hours ago, beelzebub said:

What happens ? What happens to what ? 

Does Gaff, or Shiel, have to go to the highest bidder, or do they have a choice of team they prefer irrespective of money offered?

Could we get Gaff, or Shiel, even with huge offers being dangled under their noses ?

8 hours ago, McQueen said:

Gaff vs Shiel (2018)

Gaff vs Shiel Career

Based on what I've witnessed and backed up by these stats I'd still take Gaff before Shiel although there's not a lot in it.

 

7 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Close isn’t it.

I lean towards Shiel because of the burst acceleration factor out of congestion. Perfect compliment to Clarry, Gus and Vines.

Race is hotting up for both though. Saints have now upped their ante for Shiel to $8m over 6 years. Reckon he’s the type of guy though to settle for a bit less coin to play for a Vic club with genuine flag aspirations. Reckon it’s out of Hawks, Bombers and hopefully ... us!

marginal stats Re clangers etc... 

Gaff has more time on-ground so endurance is stronger... Crossy could fix that area for Shiel.

But i like Shiels clearance numbers... and his burst from inside to space.

We cannot let the Hawks do us over again on player recruits.   Stand up Mfc and do the DEAL.

'KadeK' will kelp us outside, and Stretch and hopefully one other, will add to our wide game.

 

Let Gaff get off__

 

Huh? Apparently Gaff is still coming to the dees according to some on here because Josh Mahoney is playing mind games....?

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Hard to turn down all of that cash... But I hope he is happy with never being a premiership player. 

1 minute ago, GCDee said:

Hard to turn down all of that cash... But I hope he is happy with never being a premiership player. 

I don’t think North are that far off. Well coached, played well with a poor list.. 

typical the FA starts working for the poor teams when we become good again!

North are still a very average team, even with Gaff, Polec and Hall coming in. Josh Kelly won't make them a hell of a lot better either.

They also won't have the butter soft draw like this year.

Edited October 2, 20186 yr by Clintosaurus

Well I'm sure we gave it all we had but in light of other recent trade rumours there’s still going to be a lot happening at the MFC this year. 

Gaff will be one of the few players to take the big $$ over staying or going to a club in a premiership window.  Others I can think of to move on big $$ and end badly were:

• Ablett (the years at GCS do not reflect well on him, despite his Brownlow there),
• HW$NBN - forever to be the quintessential AFL Judas!  But may still get his Premiership.

Others who took the big $$ but at a Premiership contending club were Buddy and Tom Boyd. 

Gaff seems a really decent bloke who seemed emotionally invested in the Eagles.  I hope for his sake he does not regret the extra $$ over what might have been at the Eagles or other Vic clubs because I doubt North can come close to winning a Premiership with Scott as coach.

Edited October 2, 20186 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Sucks up a lot of the Nuff Nuff war chest.

It does make them better...not not much in great scheme of things. 

Nuffnuff pretty much just middle order team.

18 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Gaff will be one of the few players to take the big $$ over staying or going to a club in a premiership window.  Others I can think of to move on big $$ and end badly were:

• Ablett (the years at GCS do not reflect well on him, despite his Brownlow there),
• HW$NBN - forever to be the quintessential AFL Judas!  But may still get his Premiership.

Others who took the big $$ but at a Premiership contending club were Buddy and Tom Boyd. 

Gaff seems a really decent bloke who seemed emotionally invested in the Eagles.  I hope for his sake he does not regret the extra $$ over what might have been at the Eagles or other Vic clubs because I doubt North can come close to winning a Premiership with Scott as coach.

doubt it .. especially if the dollar differences are of the magnitude that Sheils and Gaff have been offered.

Each had an approximately $2 million differential

Scully made the right choice. If there is complaint it is only about how he handled it. Personally I give an 18-19 year old some leeway.

The real question with the teams that are paying the $1.2M a year for non specialised positions is what it does to salary levels across that team. There's a lot more to play out on that stage especially for clubs with star midfields.

Edited October 2, 20186 yr by Diamond_Jim

I think it is great, about time the smaller clubs win a big name FA signing. 

We bemaoned we couldn’t bring in any big name FAs and how they would chose big clubs. 

Who cares how much they paid, as some others have said leave that to the bean counters and see how Gaff translates to North making finals. 

Well done North. 

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

doubt it .. especially if the dollar differences are of the magnitude that Sheils and Gaff have been offered.

Each had an approximately $2 million differential

Scully made the right choice. If there is complaint it is only about how he handled it. Personally I give an 18-19 year old some leeway.

The real question with the teams that are paying the $1.2M a year for non specialised positions is what it does to salary levels across that team. There's a lot more to play out on that stage especially for clubs with star midfields.

Examples of other players taking the big $$ to the two I mentioned are...?

 

(Shiel has not yet accepted the big $$ being thrown at him by Carlton and StK.  In fact he is said to be favouring the Hawks for $900k per season).  

 

1 hour ago, SPC said:

I don’t think North are that far off. Well coached, played well with a poor list.. 

They will also have over 2 mil tied up between Polec & Gaff in salary cap space. 

They over achieved massively this year & really began to get found out in the later part of the year. 

I think Brisbane & Essendon will surpass them this year & they will finish in the 10-13 range again. 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Huh? Apparently Gaff is still coming to the dees according to some on here because Josh Mahoney is playing mind games....?

It's not that he's playing mind games, I think a lot of the supporters see him as an incredibly diligent person, who has historically been able to do some great recruiting, without us being aware until it happens... these lines of thoughts are more of a sign of respect for the bloke if anything...

52 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Examples of other players taking the big $$ to the two I mentioned are...?

 

(Shiel has not yet accepted the big $$ being thrown at him by Carlton and StK.  In fact he is said to be favouring the Hawks for $900k per season).  

 

How is Hawthorn managing to look at Shiel AND Wingard??

After bringing in Jaegar and Mitchell?

They have no picks to speak of... a lot of players must be taking unders....or have jobs provided by player sponsors etc...They always seem to know how to sail close to the wind on salary and membership issues....

1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

How is Hawthorn managing to look at Shiel AND Wingard??

After bringing in Jaegar and Mitchell?

They have no picks to speak of... a lot of players must be taking unders....or have jobs provided by player sponsors etc...They always seem to know how to sail close to the wind on salary and membership issues....

Apparently Ryan Burton is being shopped around as a way of potentially bringing in Shiel. I don’t know what Burton would be worth. 

6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

How is Hawthorn managing to look at Shiel AND Wingard??

After bringing in Jaegar and Mitchell?

They have no picks to speak of... a lot of players must be taking unders....or have jobs provided by player sponsors etc...They always seem to know how to sail close to the wind on salary and membership issues....

Wingard (with tail between legs) has decided to stay at Port.  No-one willing to pay the $1m pa he was asking. 

Re picks Hawthorn always seem to find a way of doing the deals they want done ala O'Meara and Mitchell (both of whom didn't go for big $$).  From a salary cap point of view they have Rioli off their books and Roughy and 'Silk' off their books in a year.  If Shiel chooses Hawks they will make it happen.

Edited October 3, 20186 yr by Lucifer's Hero

26 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Apparently Ryan Burton is being shopped around as a way of potentially bringing in Shiel. I don’t know what Burton would be worth. 

I think Burton is a good player and should get them a high 2nd round pick

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Wingard (with tail between legs) has decided to stay at Port.  No-one willing to pay the $1m pa he was asking. 

Re picks Hawthorn always seem to find a way of doing the deals they want done ala O'Meara and Mitchell (both of whom didn't go for big $$).  From a salary cap point of view they have Rioli off their books and Roughy and 'Silk' off their books in a year.  If Shiel chooses Hawks they will make it happen.

Doggies supporters will be disappointed with Wingard not coming to them... They were sure it was going to happen given Dalhaus' departure and apparently Wingard and Jackson Trengove are pretty tight mates.

Apologies to those who read my “We’ve got Gaff” posts. That was my mail. I’ll hold off next time I hear something and let others confirm. He would of looked great in red and blue on $750,000