On 20/08/2018 at 18:57, Wells 11 said:

Lol... fair enough. Happy to eat a little crow but not the whole bird. Yet. def saw some really good signs, especially in the first half. To be clear . I’d love him to be the gun so many think he will be...but Sunday’s game didn’t quite have me fully changing camps. Yet. 

Here ya go Wls11,   have your way.

But remember,  if you have to phluck it,  pkluck is slooooowww.

enjoy.

  On 20/08/2018 at 22:20, goodwindees said:

In fairness, I don’t believe any of Frost’s supporters ever said he’d be a “gun”, we just couldn’t understand why so many continually bagged him and stated he wasn’t even AFL standard.  Unbelievably early call for someone with so many attributes. 

Some find the faults ahead of others.   Some always look for the negatives, first.

Most tho' when finding negatives, give up on players.  This is the saddest part of it.  The writing off, hastily.

 

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:11, DeeZee said:

Weed continues to grow

organically?  hothouse?  hydroponic?

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:20, Petraccattack said:

Does he remind anyone else of Kurt Tippett in the way he moves and and takes the ball at the highest point?

Expecting floods of  'no hes nothing like Tippett'.   ?   

Yes agree, i was trying to think who he reminded me of. Going back a fair way, as i do, i just hope he gets the luck to write his own history.

His family would be very proud and happy for him, and so will the MFC.............

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:20, Petraccattack said:

Does he remind anyone else of Kurt Tippett in the way he moves and and takes the ball at the highest point?

Expecting floods of  'no hes nothing like Tippett'.   ?   

The spring in his step and leap plus his aerial marking ability reminds me of Jarrad Waite, fingers crossed he turns into a similar talented player 

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:20, Petraccattack said:

Does he remind anyone else of Kurt Tippett in the way he moves and and takes the ball at the highest point?

Expecting floods of  'no hes nothing like Tippett'.   ?   

?! Then why would you say something so silly?

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:56, SFebes said:

The spring in his step and leap plus his aerial marking ability reminds me of Jarrad Waite, fingers crossed he turns into a similar talented player 

Matthew Lloyd for mine, without the diving

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:07, rpfc said:

My problem is I don't think the faith in Oscar is being repaid. 

I'm not sure what you're meaning.

  On 21/08/2018 at 12:00, ProDee said:

I'm not sure what you're meaning.

He is stalling.

  On 21/08/2018 at 12:45, rpfc said:

He is stalling.

Disagree

 

Oscar has shown MUCH better kicking ability than big brother did in his first several years in defence, to the point where he can be relied on most times to find a target, and gets to plenty of contests. For his age and size, he is progressing very nicely.

Just needs a heap more strength, and we will have a first class tall defender.

Edited August 21, 20186 yr by faultydet

  On 21/08/2018 at 00:02, Mazer Rackham said:

I have no idea what you're trying to say but what's that little squiggle after the 7 and the 0? Seriously cool! Like an old man wearing glasses or something. Loving it. Anyone know where I can find one?

I think it's a capital 5

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:07, rpfc said:

My problem is I don't think the faith in Oscar is being repaid. If we are putting together a backline from a healthy list, I don't know if either is in it.

I am not an OMac fan but he was OK on the weekend. His shortcomings are different to Frost and in a way polar opposite. He is slow, particularly reaction time but also turning circle. He has little physical presence - although his Darling tackle was a ripper - and is often fumbly. He was lucky not to have given away a free at a critical time to Venebles I think when he fumbled the mark and then tried to duck the tackle in the 4th. Could have been so much worse. Oscar's disposal is pretty good

Frost on the other hand is very quick, physical, can take a solid mark and makes life difficult for good forwards as he is difficult to play on. Disposal and decision making are his two biggest weaknesses and the club has been trying to limit these telling him in effect to give the ball off straight away by hand where possible.

A combination of the two would be perfect and the question is when Lever returns who gets the gig alongside him. there isn't room for all three IMO. It might be match ups that determine it. Against the Swans Frost did well on Buddy and OMac was pretty reasonable on McCartin. 

Edited August 21, 20186 yr by jnrmac

  On 21/08/2018 at 12:55, faultydet said:

Disagree

 

Oscar has shown MUCH better kicking ability than big brother did in his first several years in defence, to the point where he can be relied on most times to find a target, and gets to plenty of contests. For his age and size, he is progressing very nicely.

Just needs a heap more strength, and we will have a first class tall defender.

Kicking is fine.  Has sticky hands too.  His agility and speed are way off.  And his ball to hand and ball to foot speed are terrifyingly slow.

It's the physical deficiencies that limit him severely.  A fast leading player that changes direction will beat him every time.

  On 21/08/2018 at 00:02, Mazer Rackham said:

I have no idea what you're trying to say but what's that little squiggle after the 7 and the 0? Seriously cool! Like an old man wearing glasses or something. Loving it. Anyone know where I can find one?

On my keyboard it is an upper case 5.   See %5%5. The upper case 1 looks like !   - cool

Edited August 21, 20186 yr by ManDee
Fire in the belly beat me to it

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:11, DeeZee said:

Weed continues to grow

Well let’s keep him well clear of the Roundup then. 

How good was he today.,..  wowee oh oh boy!   The stats look good but what about the attack on the ball , urgency and aerial work and most surprisingly, the athleticism.

If we trade this kid to the Pies for that spud Darcy Moore as was rumoured a month ago, I will spew.

Edited August 26, 20186 yr by Petraccattack

Didn’t fade either, strong last quarter 

Good game from the Weid. Progressing nicely. Hope he enjoys playing finals. Going to be more in the years to come

He is looking a lot better.

Far more confident.

Give him the time he needs.

  On 21/08/2018 at 12:45, rpfc said:

He is stalling.

Was bloody good today 

  On 21/08/2018 at 10:07, rpfc said:

My problem is I don't think the faith in Oscar is being repaid. If we are putting together a backline from a healthy list, I don't know if either is in it.

I reckon today he well & truly earned his place. They both did.

The thing is, Lever can be so damaging with his ability to create instant turnovers.

  On 26/08/2018 at 08:22, Jaded said:

Was bloody good today 

That was a reference to Oscar. 

Weideman is tracking normally - his ruckwork is a point of difference that he can build a career out of it if he can stay relevant as a forward like today.

This was the best I've seen of the Weid.

He looked confident. It was as if he finally felt comfortable in the big time. 

The club has developed him well and he is coming good at just the right time.

Tall with all the attributes starts to come good. How unusual. 

He’s still got a long way to go in his development but he’s playing with great confidence, he’s attacking ball with desperation and that set shot today shows he’s got good kicking in him. 

I think a lot of it is between the ears with Sam but the last two weeks have been brilliant. 

  On 21/08/2018 at 22:19, monoccular said:

Well let’s keep him well clear of the Roundup then. 

Do you mean the 'RoundUp', in the black&white boxed no frills brand ??