1 hour ago, Brownie said:

Has Crossy got him on the bone broth?

 

https://edgylabs.com/cbd-heals-bone-fractures

Send hm to arizona for 6 weeks of treatment, and to come back without a hair on his body.

https://www.endoca.com/blog/cbd-bone-healing/

Edited March 20, 20187 yr by DV8

"Every time I have gone to my lift my training load, a little niggle has come up. First it was my ankle, now I have a little bit of a toe problem. It's been frustrating trying to put out these little spot fires but am definitely getting there and definitely can see the light at the end of the tunnel."

I’m willing to take Viney’s word for it at this stage.  

Following his rehab for the stress fracture he’s had some secondary injuries/niggles as a result of his change in running style.  I’ll take an ankle injury, followed by a toe injury any day over a stress fracture in the foot.

5 hours ago, DV8 said:

 

https://edgylabs.com/cbd-heals-bone-fractures

Send hm to arizona for 6 weeks of treatment, and to come back without a hair on his body.

https://www.endoca.com/blog/cbd-bone-healing/

bone broth and hash cakes it is.

he'll come back 15kgs heavier with dreads.

Someone posted something similar on a FB group yesterday..... same person or same information??

6 hours ago, bing181 said:

"Every time I have gone to my lift my training load, a little niggle has come up. First it was my ankle, now I have a little bit of a toe problem. It's been frustrating trying to put out these little spot fires but am definitely getting there and definitely can see the light at the end of the tunnel."

A quote without context is useless.

I’m confused as to why this thread was started. Does someone have solid information?

When I was at training on Monday morning, I noticed a medico/doctor inspecting Viney’s foot closely whilst he was sitting on the ground. As soon as that concluded, he took no further part in the rehab group training and headed back to the AAMI park complex. Before the foot inspection, he was doing light work in the rehab group.

That was the only concerning thing I witnessed. I wouldn’t jump the gun just yet in fearing the worst, although I’m aware of how unclear the club when it comes to updating it’s supporter base re: injuries.

15 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I’m confused as to why this thread was started. Does someone have solid information?

When I was at training on Monday morning, I noticed a medico/doctor inspecting Viney’s foot closely whilst he was sitting on the ground. As soon as that concluded, he took no further part in the rehab group training and headed back to the AAMI park complex. Before the foot inspection, he was doing light work in the rehab group.

That was the only concerning thing I witnessed. I wouldn’t jump the gun just yet in fearing the worst, although I’m aware of how unclear the club when it comes to updating it’s supporter base re: injuries.

We've been led to believe the issue is he is just getting his fitness back but his foot is fine.

The potential problem is he is still getting pain and discomfort in his foot, meaning it hasn't fully healed.

Not worried about fitness, worried about foot not fully recovered.

Is it just me, or do we seem to have a recurring 'foot injury' problem with blokes? 

11 hours ago, BLWNBA said:

Absolutely it is.

I’ll cop crap for this no doubt, but from what I’ve heard there’s actual three to four different injuries in the foot itself. Essentially, the foot is rooted. 

As in rooted for this year or rooted for the rest of his career?

We have Matthew Egan at the club now, of all the people to know about coming back too soon with foot injuries.

11 hours ago, DeezNuts said:

Whilst we all love Jack, we really do have some quality depth, and I’m convinced we defeat any team without him.

In all, DNs, this is the best summation and possible resolution of the issue for such a great player. 

Clearly something is not right with his foot. 

I have no inside info,  but I'd be very surprised if we see him for several weeks yet, maybe a month. 

He is too valuable to risk this early in a year when we will need him in September. The club will have learnt from bringing him back too soon last year. 

My concern level will be raised slightly  if he doesn't train today.

This thread is stressing me out now!

What I think has transpired is this ... This all harks back to the decision someone made to get back ASAP Last Year.

Essentially the foot wasn't right and as result further strain was placed on foot resulting in more damage.

I think he is in allsorts and the club will be trying the play the whole thing down.

If this becomes another 3-4 week injury then I reckon his season will be in Jeopardy.

 

Richmond Anzac Eve game.

Issue with feet and lower leg injuries it stuffs your whole body alignment up.  You start to get over the injury than another spot flares up as that spot has taken a lot of the weight compensation due to the injury.  Ankles, Calf, Hammy plus other foot bones and tendons.  He will have sore spots in different spots that will worry him for most of this season. 

So all we know is he has a foot injury and will miss the first round or two. Everything else in this thread is just baseless panic

It's not a diagnostic problem but a healing problem that is compounded by the nature of sport.  As anyone who has had plantar fasciitis can testify, it is impossible to know when things will come right. One day it can seem fine and the next day come up sore. And Jacks injury is much worse. Every time you try and increase the quantity and quality of running you run a risk of aggravating the injury.  You do not try and increase the workload unless you have been able to cope with a low workload, pain free for a considerable period of time.  If there is pain or discomfort, it is crazy to try and continue running.  Personally, I agree with others that think he should not be considered until mid to late season or perhaps not at all this season. Make no mistake, this is a serious injury that if not managed conservatively could jeopardise Jacks career. Extreme patience is required to ensure that Jack gets back on the field and can continue his career without further interruption. 

10 minutes ago, hemingway said:

It's not a diagnostic problem but a healing problem that is compounded by the nature of sport.  As anyone who has had plantar fasciitis can testify, it is impossible to know when things will come right. One day it can seem fine and the next day come up sore. And Jacks injury is much worse. Every time you try and increase the quantity and quality of running you run a risk of aggravating the injury.  You do not try and increase the workload unless you have been able to cope with a low workload, pain free for a considerable period of time.  If there is pain or discomfort, it is crazy to try and continue running.  Personally, I agree with others that think he should not be considered until mid to late season or perhaps not at all this season. Make no mistake, this is a serious injury that if not managed conservatively could jeopardise Jacks career. Extreme patience is required to ensure that Jack gets back on the field and can continue his career without further interruption. 

And as I have stated,  I believe this all started by coming back too soon last year.

i think he's return will be against the tiges r5, it makes no sense bring him in any earlier as we have sufficient cover in the midfield these days.

25 minutes ago, hemingway said:

It's not a diagnostic problem but a healing problem that is compounded by the nature of sport.  As anyone who has had plantar fasciitis can testify, it is impossible to know when things will come right. One day it can seem fine and the next day come up sore. And Jacks injury is much worse. Every time you try and increase the quantity and quality of running you run a risk of aggravating the injury.  You do not try and increase the workload unless you have been able to cope with a low workload, pain free for a considerable period of time.  If there is pain or discomfort, it is crazy to try and continue running.  Personally, I agree with others that think he should not be considered until mid to late season or perhaps not at all this season. Make no mistake, this is a serious injury that if not managed conservatively could jeopardise Jacks career. Extreme patience is required to ensure that Jack gets back on the field and can continue his career without further interruption. 

If we're to believe Viney, his plantar fascia is fine, as is his third metatarsal.  

The issue is seemingly other occasional sore spots in his foot due to changed motions caused by the first two injuries.

If he has continuous pain free periods he'll get closer to playing, but if other areas of his foot are feeling pain he'll have to desist conventional park training.

None of us here are any the wiser.  But calls for him to miss half the season, or more, from supporters who have no relevant information regarding his injury seem senseless to me.

54 minutes ago, ProDee said:

If we're to believe Viney, his plantar fascia is fine, as is his third metatarsal.  

The issue is seemingly other occasional sore spots in his foot due to changed motions caused by the first two injuries.

If he has continuous pain free periods he'll get closer to playing, but if other areas of his foot are feeling pain he'll have to desist conventional park training.

None of us here are any the wiser.  But calls for him to miss half the season, or more, from supporters who have no relevant information regarding his injury seem senseless to me.

Agree with all points.

In regard to last para, you are probably right as no-one really knows, so opinion only.

Its a reflection of supporters concern.  A view that takes into account the mistake last season when he played prematurely, together with the 6 months recovery over summer, and continuing doubts about the timing of his comeback.  And the importance to the team in ensuring that he is cherry ripe when he returns.

2 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

Clearly something is not right with his foot. 

I have no inside info,  but I'd be very surprised if we see him for several weeks yet, maybe a month. 

He is too valuable to risk this early in a year when we will need him in September. The club will have learnt from bringing him back too soon last year. 

It is getting tiresome to read from non medical people, who didn't examine his injury, that he came back too soon, especially when we hear from him and club medical staff that the current problems are not the ones that he allegedly came back too soon from.

8 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Agree with all points.

In regard to last para, you are probably right as no-one really knows, so opinion only.

Its a reflection of supporters concern.  A view that takes into account the mistake last season when he played prematurely, together with the 6 months recovery over summer, and continuing doubts about the timing of his comeback.  And the importance to the team in ensuring that he is cherry ripe when he returns.

Read my earlier post just above this one.

Edited March 21, 20187 yr by Redleg