Hello Demonland

It's been in the media recently that Rory Sloane may be on the move - 

Graham Cornes increasingly concerned Rory Sloane will leave Adelaide at end of 2018

With increasing talk about Free Agency every year, and the predictable constant speculation from the AFL media and Social media, I pose a couple of question to this learned group.

1. Are we a chance of bidding for and landing Rory?

2. Is the AFL community ready for an AFL player to commit to a new club before they are officially out of contract? Would be a massive step.

Would anyone be upset if Rory came out and said, I will give my all to Adelaide in 2018 but I am committing to Collingwood in 2019? Rather then the now standard contract on hold?

Interesting discussion I think

I think we will get Gaff

I think this will happen sooner or later. The problem will be as follows-

If a team is hunting for a flag/in the mix for finals, someone like sloane will stay in the team.

If a team's season is done, that player will be dropped in favour of a kid so fast their head will swim.

Absolutely no need for a player to sign with another team before the end of the year.

Free agency has been given to the players as a right but they have to earn it, which means finishing your current contract.

Hopefully in time the rules change so the entire process is smother and occurs after the year. There's plenty of open space on the sporting calendar in October and November to get it right.

Players signing with other clubs before the end of the season is unnecessary and a really bad situation for clubs and fans. The idea that it is 'mature' because it happens in the NRL is stupidity. 

Tom Lynch best free agent available and woyld be every clubs target if he heading back to Victoria 

49 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Tom Lynch best free agent available and woyld be every clubs target if he heading back to Victoria 

I wonder how much money the AFL will throw at him to stay at the Gold Coast. Wasn’t he going to be payed outside the salary cap as an ‘Ambassador’ if he were to stay at the Suns post 2018?

Edited January 23, 20187 yr by Ethan Tremblay

7 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I wonder how much money the AFL will throw at him to stay at the Gold Coast. Wasn’t he going to be payed outside the salary cap as an ‘Ambassador’ if he were to stay at the Suns post 2018?

They’ve already stated he could earn as much as 500k. That was late last season.

8 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Absolutely no need for a player to sign with another team before the end of the year.

Free agency has been given to the players as a right but they have to earn it, which means finishing your current contract.

Hopefully in time the rules change so the entire process is smother and occurs after the year. There's plenty of open space on the sporting calendar in October and November to get it right.

Players signing with other clubs before the end of the season is unnecessary and a really bad situation for clubs and fans. The idea that it is 'mature' because it happens in the NRL is stupidity. 

Couldn't have said it better myself 'Dee'.

...and as for the maturity line trotted out by some, what a load of rubbish. It would seem more mature to me to finish your contract.

Funnily enough for all the talk of the NRL's approach being more mature etc Cam Smith has on numerous occasions said he doesn't like it.

I agree, i don't want to see players nominating cluba pre season personally.

But the reality is the constant media speculation will grow and there is a push from some in the media 'imo to get the story first', to change this, it could happen.

 

 

Just wait until Hoges puts off talks until 'the end of the year'

from all reports sloane is headed to the saints and tom lynch is on his way collingwood, both for huge money

it'll be interesting to see what happens with gaff...we've chased him a couple of times, haven't we?

22 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

from all reports sloane is headed to the saints and tom lynch is on his way collingwood, both for huge money

it'll be interesting to see what happens with gaff...we've chased him a couple of times, haven't we?

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

Edited January 23, 20187 yr by george_on_the_outer

30 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

They would know already. List management is prepared years ahead now. If they are still chasing him, they either have enough "cap" in hand, or they think they can get away with a brown paper Visy bag.

Sloane would be very nice, although I think we might target Gaff if players such as Billy Stretch dont come on this year. We still need outside running power, who can get plenty of touches.

44 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

How is Gaff too old for our profile?? We are ready to challenge, he is the exact type of player we should be targeting, in their prime years of 25-30. We don't need anymore kids, we've got a truckload of them.

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

Just wait until Hoges puts off talks until 'the end of the year'

He’s contracted for 2 more Jumbo. 

But if we could get Lynch.

Absolutely we should be targeting Gaff and Sloane.

55 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

george, won't tippet's payout for this year and next year stay in the swan's cap?

Will we have the coin to pursue another free agent this year?

We do have plenty of players coming out of contract this year that could create space, but after nabbing Lever I can see us potentially being a little quieter come this off season.  That does depend on many factors, though, so I could be way off the mark.

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

george, won't tippet's payout for this year and next year stay in the swan's cap?

I think Tippet was signed until the end of 2020 which makes it more interesting.

3 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

I wouldn’t rule out Collingwood that easily.

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I wouldn’t rule out Collingwood that easily.

And the new panel member on the Footy Show is.....:

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

george, won't tippet's payout for this year and next year stay in the swan's cap?

Doesn't look like it:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/kurt-tippetts-injury-settlement-will-allow-sydney-to-snare-a-quality-player-at-seasons-end/news-story/f9d9a94c8540b7746b6fc77b5abd85fe

 

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I think Tippet was signed until the end of 2020 which makes it more interesting.

contracted to end of 2018

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/kurt-tippett-retires-sydney-forward-retires-after-178-games/news-story/664ca58f73b8232f3bd3eb3fb027e8c3

 

13 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Doesn't look like it:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/kurt-tippetts-injury-settlement-will-allow-sydney-to-snare-a-quality-player-at-seasons-end/news-story/f9d9a94c8540b7746b6fc77b5abd85fe

 

contracted to end of 2018

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/kurt-tippett-retires-sydney-forward-retires-after-178-games/news-story/664ca58f73b8232f3bd3eb3fb027e8c3

 

well those 2 links contradict each other. first says 3 years to go, other says 1 year.

more importantly though it seems tippett has agreed to a reduced amount of money, but what is unclear is how much left goes in to the cap post 2018.

nevertheless, george, it does seems reduced termination agreement will free up a lot of cap space post 2018, so swans will be back in the fa game

21 minutes ago, Redleg said:

And the new panel member on the Footy Show is.....:

The footy show should be dead and buried by then 'Redleg'...

Be lucky to make through this season.

12 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Doesn't look like it:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/kurt-tippetts-injury-settlement-will-allow-sydney-to-snare-a-quality-player-at-seasons-end/news-story/f9d9a94c8540b7746b6fc77b5abd85fe

 

contracted to end of 2018

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/kurt-tippett-retires-sydney-forward-retires-after-178-games/news-story/664ca58f73b8232f3bd3eb3fb027e8c3

 

I stand corrected, I was listening to an interview the afternoon it was announced and it was stated he was given an extension half way through 2016. It was probably a Sydney journalist....