Dirts 429 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Hate to say with all the speculation, but we could have had Dustin Martin. Instead we ended up with a guy leaving us and another who broke down. Lets hope that this years draft uncovers another Martin for the mfc!
Redleg 42,182 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Actually a few years ago every team could have had him.
Earl Hood 6,167 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 At the time I thought we should take him because Scully and Trenners were potentially two very good vanilla players but did we want 2 of the same? Martin was known to have a bit of mongrel and was a different beast but was a very effective as a player and generally rated in the top picks. And boy at the time, did we need some mongrel, aggressive types rather than what we already had plenty of.
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Wouldn't have mattered. MFC would have put him in a stupid blazer , beat the mongrel from him, made him publicly repent in front of the media for his sins and reduced his effectiveness by half.
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Caro's sicophantic articles in The Age of late have almost begged Dusty to re-sign because according to her the Tigers are odds on to win the next 5 flags. Painfully biased 'reporting', hardly journalism.
AzzKikA 2,371 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Funny thinking about things like this, would he be the player he is today if we did get him, would Trenners foot failed him if someone else drafted him? Would Scully still have gone to GWS?
poita 3,945 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Fantastic player no doubt, but 2012 vintage Martin & 2012 vintage MFC would have been a disaster for all concerned. Neeld probably would have made him captain and trotted him out each week to explain why we had just lost by 100 points again. Moloney & Sylvia would have ensured he turned up to training [censored] every second day. And the supporters would have anointed him as the saviour, then torn him to pieces every time he had less than 40 touches.
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Moonshadow said: Caro's sicophantic articles in The Age of late have almost begged Dusty to re-sign because according to her the Tigers are odds on to win the next 5 flags. Painfully biased 'reporting', hardly journalism. Caro doesn't report football stories, she reports gossip stories disguised as football stories. Caro's ideal story: Demetriou's estranged wife declares bankruptcy after failure of joint venture to supply imported oranges to GWS at half time that gave food poisoning to players' girlfriends. Second best: North to face huge fines from Tassie govt for breaching public safety standards with new turf sourced from Chinese mistress of Hobart council worker who previously boinked assistant coach's wife.
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Why are we revisiting history on Martin? haven't we got enough fresh new material to bash ourselves with? Every club has their hard luck stories on "the one that got away". if you have to shoot yourself, do it over things that actually happened, not things that didn't happen.
Nasher 33,686 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 12 hours ago, Redleg said: Actually a few years ago every team could have had him. Exactly. Richmond literally couldn't give him away. And it's a bit stiff criticising the club over the initial draft, for a long time it looked like we'd get great value out of Trengove. Sometimes the club makes mistakes but others s*** just does happen. PS I am assuming this is referring to Dustin and not Jack, Stefan or Flanagan.
Guest Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, Nasher said: PS I am assuming this is referring to Dustin and not Jack, Stefan or Flanagan. Given our club culture, we are more likely to be talking about this Martin.
Redleg 42,182 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Nasher said: Exactly. Richmond literally couldn't give him away. And it's a bit stiff criticising the club over the initial draft, for a long time it looked like we'd get great value out of Trengove. Sometimes the club makes mistakes but others s*** just does happen. PS I am assuming this is referring to Dustin and not Jack, Stefan or Flanagan. I can't mention our first pick of the at year, as you would know from the biggest thread ever on Demonland and because he doesn't exist to me, but Trengove was not a mistake, as every club agreed he was 1 or 2 in that draft. Port even offered us 2 first round picks a la the Kelly deal for him. Unfortunately for us now, we refused. The Tigers a few years later offered us pick 12 for JT , subject to a medical, which he failed. Our target with pick 12 was none other than Jake Lever who was still there at that pick. As we all know Trengove's career was ruined by us and his injury, which robbed him of any pace he had. JT is a great bloke and sadly his AFL career will end this off season.
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 GWS would've targeted him and he would've left instead of Scully.
TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Would be worth a discussion if you could provide a source from the time stating that Martin was the better, or even equal prospect. Scully and Trengove, then daylight was the consensus at the time.
Ouch! 2,276 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, Redleg said: As we all know Trengove's career was ruined by us and his injury, which robbed him of any pace he had. JT is a great bloke and sadly his AFL career will end this off season Is there a role for a player like JT at another club that might need some leadership and a strong body in and under? We probably had better options already for the place that he was best suited to playing, and I think Goodwin was trying to find other roles for Trengove to play for us, but he was never quite suited to them... I wonder whether a club like Gold Coast or Freo could take a punt with a low draft pick, even the Hawks who are able to identify players that others have passed over might see something that we might not. He still has good foot skills, and he's not going to cost the earth.
daisycutter 30,021 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 wonder why martin needed 2 bodyguards (pushup jake and some other goon) dressed in black when he returned at melbourne airport from NZ, was he expecting a terrorist attack?
old dee 24,084 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, daisycutter said: wonder why martin needed 2 bodyguards (pushup jake and some other goon) dressed in black when he returned at melbourne airport from NZ, was he expecting a terrorist attack? Family affiliations ?
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 This bloke regularly breaks the rules with impunity and the reason why he gets away with it is because he's got a "stronger arm" than anyone else in the AFL....give us a break. Poor bloody Gawn cannot even do what he does in a Ruck Contest, for Gods sake....
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: GWS would've targeted him and he would've left instead of Scully. Spot on ..... Got the $$ signs in his eyes.
Redleg 42,182 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, daisycutter said: wonder why martin needed 2 bodyguards (pushup jake and some other goon) dressed in black when he returned at melbourne airport from NZ, was he expecting a terrorist attack? They were to fend off people wanting to borrow money from Dusty.
daisycutter 30,021 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Redleg said: They were to fend off people wanting to borrow money from Dusty. or....they heard north melbourne had hired a hit squad to kidnap him either way, what a [censored] joke
dl4e 5,851 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I would LMAO if he annoounced he was going to play for north on the footy show tonite.
Dee Zephyr 19,326 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I heard on the radio last week North have 8 players out of contract and the club is waiting on an answer from Dusty before these uncontracted players receive a new offer. Does anyone know the players or have more of an insight?
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