WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN

[Ted Lasso 19,586]

  On 01/11/2020 at 16:13, Grr-owl said:

Clippers??? Smash a stubbie and use the broken glass, mate....

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you boys ever heard of a chainsaw?

[Kent 2,920]

  On 01/11/2020 at 10:32, Hannibal Inc. said:

Brown will play for Melbourne for the next few years.  I'm pleased without being ecstatic.  BUT I'm not ''underwhelmed'' by this bloke, as some seem to be.  In 3 years - 2017-2019 - he kicked the MOST goals in the AFL (188 frigging goals), which is no mean feat.  And he hardly had the best midfield slotting it down his throat.

I watched every one of his 65 goals from 2019 and two thirds did NOT come from leads.  They were a combination of frees, contested marks, tackles, ground balls, and general play.  And plenty of the goals from ''leads'' were not lace-out.  In fact, only a few were.  Plenty were just getting separation with smart leads and speed.

Both Brown and Weideman cover a lot of territory.  It's great that Weideman will get the second tall.  Jackson will relieve ruck, play a bit on-ball, occasionally push deep as well as resting on the bench.  

It's a good get for the MFC.

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So where will Tom Play???

[sue 9,277]

  On 01/11/2020 at 20:50, Watts the matter said:

No one has done that (as Brown has never won the Coleman). People have questioned the recruitment of Brown who kicked 8 goals in 9 games this season and takes considerable salary cap space.

As long as we are offloading McDonald I am happy enough with a deal for a second rounder.

 

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That's not my recollection of the nature of negative comments about Brown.  Most criticism has been that he is a 'one-trick pony'.  The videos indicate that is true only in the sense that his one trick is kicking lots of goals.  

Of course there are questions about his 2020 and injuries etc.  But what better option is on offer?

[DeeZee 7,496]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:37, sue said:

That's not my recollection of the nature of negative comments about Brown.  Most criticism has been that he is a 'one-trick pony'.  The videos indicate that is true only in the sense that his one trick is kicking lots of goals.  

Of course there are questions about his 2020 and injuries etc.  But what better option is on offer?

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Ha ha , exactly this bloke only knows how to kick goals and can’t  play on the wing.

Pass!!

[Lucifers Hero 40,733]

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Redleg 42,177]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:47, Lucifer's Hero said:

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

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No he just moves half a step to the right, shortens the run up by seven steps, holds the ball eight inches lower and blinks as his foot makes contact with the ball. Simple really. Sorry LH just bored atm.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Redleg

[Maxwell Edison MD 143]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:47, Lucifer's Hero said:

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

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Not sure how many he's kicked at Bellerive?  pretty bloody rainy and windy here. Hoping the wide forward expanses of the 'G' will only improve his opportunities. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:47, Lucifer's Hero said:

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

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Brown averages 2.6 goals a game at Marvel and 2.1 at the MCG. However he's only played at the MCG 10 times over about 6 seasons which is a  low sample space for a Victorian team.

Has kicked 12 goals against us in four games at the MCG including a bag of 5 and a bag of 4.

He actually made his debut against us in 2014 at the MCG for 1 goal. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:58, Maxwell Edison MD said:

Not sure how many he's kicked at Bellerive?  pretty bloody rainy and windy here. Hoping the wide forward expanses of the 'G' will only improve his opportunities. 

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He averages 1.9 goals a game at Hobart which is below his career average of 2.2

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[Lucifers Hero 40,733]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:58, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Brown averages 2.6 goals a game at Marvel and 2.1 at the MCG. However he's only played at the MCG 10 times over about 6 seasons which is a  low sample space for a Victorian team.

Has kicked 12 goals against us in four games at the MCG including a bag of 5 and a bag of 4.

He actually made his debut against us in 2014 at the MCG for 1 goal. 

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So without our games his MCG average is about 1.5 per game.  Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to both the MCG size and weather conditions.

tbh, I don't expect him to be a 60+ goal a year player but 45-50 will be a good return given the other ways he helps the team and if other fwds start doing their bit.

 

[Maxwell Edison MD 143]

  On 01/11/2020 at 22:01, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He averages 1.9 goals a game at Hobart which is below his career average of 2.2

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Thanks mate. If our midfield lower their eyes, he could get that up over 2.5, I'd imagine. 

[Wells 11 5,503]

IF he's coming then its time he came out and said so. Otherwise we're start to look like second choice depending on how other things go. Time to pull the frikn trigger already. 

[Young Blood 2,642]

  On 01/11/2020 at 22:06, Lucifer's Hero said:

So without our games his MCG average is about 1.5 per game.  Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to both the MCG size and weather conditions.

tbh, I don't expect him to be a 60+ goal a year player but 45-50 will be a good return given the other ways he helps the team and if other fwds start doing their bit.

 

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If both he and Weid can combine for 80-90 goals next season I will be happy. Its pretty exciting the potential of having two genuine targets next year. I know there are big 'if's like if if Ben Brown can get over the injuries that hindered him this year or if Weid can put together a consistent full season. I think both are possible.

e.g. combinations in 2018

Tmac + Jesse combined for 100 goals

Josh Kennedy + Jack Darling combined for 91

Edited November 1, 2020 by Yung Blood

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

  On 01/11/2020 at 22:47, Yung Blood said:

I know there are big 'if's like if if Ben Brown can get over the injuries that hindered him this year

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Really hoping his 2020 season was a pure write off due to injuries and personal matters rather than a natural decline in his football.

The fact that his goal tally was less than his games tally is a little concerning.

 

[Young Blood 2,642]

  On 01/11/2020 at 23:14, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Really hoping his 2020 season was a pure write off due to injuries and personal matters rather than a natural decline in his football.

The fact that his goal tally was less than his games tally is a little concerning.

 

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Same here. But I think North were one of the worst performing sides this year. You only need to look at our 2019 to see how players performance can drop off when the whole team is playing so poorly,

There's so much upside still there for him at 27. If we can get 40 goals out of him which I think is entirely realistic if he plays most games then it will be worth it.

[BDA 23,048]

No such thing as a sure thing of course. There is always risk. He had knee and off field issues last year which explains his lower output. Previous to that he was outstanding in a bang average team. As risks go he’s very much on the lower end of the scale and it’s a risk we have to take if we’re serious about breaking into the Top 4.

I’m backing Burgess to get him back into top nick and a 45-55 goal season from our new cult hero!

[Turner 1,516]

  On 01/11/2020 at 21:37, Kent said:

So where will Tom Play???

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wherever essendon pick him

 

[Fat Tony 5,337]

I hope the chatter about a 5 year deal is wrong. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

  On 01/11/2020 at 23:45, Fat Tony said:

I hope the chatter about a 5 year deal is wrong. 

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Might be the only way of getting him to the club?

[Wunders 397]

  On 01/11/2020 at 23:58, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Might be the only way of getting him to the club?

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  On 01/11/2020 at 23:45, Fat Tony said:

I hope the chatter about a 5 year deal is wrong. 

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I thought i heard 3-4 years earlier in the day on trade radio. :)

[Matt 424]

Just nominate us already

[Lefty 413]

  On 02/11/2020 at 00:33, Matt said:

Just nominate us already

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General question:

What benefit is it for a player to publicly nominate a particular club? Assume the answer is they only want to play for that club and want to make their intentions clear to their current club and any other potential suitors.

If that is the case why haven't we been nominated?

Either he's still contemplating other offers or perhaps an in principle deal or dealings between us and North are already in place and there isn't a need to publicly nominate. 

Edited November 2, 2020 by Lefty

[cookieboc 780]

  On 01/11/2020 at 22:47, Yung Blood said:

If both he and Weid can combine for 80-90 goals next season I will be happy. Its pretty exciting the potential of having two genuine targets next year. I know there are big 'if's like if if Ben Brown can get over the injuries that hindered him this year or if Weid can put together a consistent full season. I think both are possible.

e.g. combinations in 2018

Tmac + Jesse combined for 100 goals

Josh Kennedy + Jack Darling combined for 91

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even if they combine for 50 goals, it will be about 40 goals we didnt have this year. makes us a 2 goal per game better next year. puts us in more games for longer, possibly wins us some close games eg rich and geel. this is good only if the rest of the comp doesnt improve by 2 goals a game also

[Deemania since 56 6,810]

  On 01/11/2020 at 08:53, Demons3031 said:

There will be a few others on this site around the same age as me. I was born in 1950 and saw my first game around 1955-56. Dad pointed out Ivor Warne Smith and the Cordner brothers. I think it was a week or two later I wanted to go to the footy again but Dad (Jack) said no- so I decided to drive there myself- not that I had any idea of how to drive let alone how to navigate to the MCG from Ashburton!! Ha Ha !

I only succeeded in rolling Dads car down the driveway and smashing the front headlight on his car--not a Happy Jack!

Despite the harshness of the last 56 years, I lived through the great era and am so grateful for the memories that provided. I would dearly love another premiership or even a great era again-but if it doesn't happen I will always have those great memories to carry with me. :)

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It was a time to remember, formative and successful. Ashburton? Head back down High Street to the Burke Road corner. That's where I grew up, on that corner. As for the Dees in those days, it was terribly difficult not the follow them avidly - such was the rate of success and the virtual control of the VFL, as it was back then. The names of the footballers in our team stand in the memory like monoliths. Moreso, the occasional outings to see a game at the 'G remain indelibly etched on one's brain, particularly after beating the Filth, Essendrug and Footiscray. Thanks for this little missive evoking happy memories, D3031.

[Demons1858 1,827]

ben held out for a better deal pre covid after getting a good offer from norf, why expect any different now. trade period hasn't even started and clubs always up the ante when they get nervous

Edited November 2, 2020 by Demons1858