13 minutes ago, monoccular said:

presumably this fragmented discussion refers to Hannon?

Great pick up and versatile tough strong player who can snag a goal from nothing. 

Um no Stretch! Hannan going along nicely!

Very tough at the selection table this week. We seemed to have a few running with heavy legs, not getting to contests, poor disposal etc... but at one time or another they all played their part.

The trip to Darwin might mean Watts remains another week away so Pedo stays. Darwin is very physically taxing, and Pedo is a grunt running swing man. For me, we are and will remain, a better team with Pedo in it.  He stays.

After the Darwin game it is all systems go aiming at a finals berth, so perhaps we rest Hannan and Hunt who are really important to our September push. 

Kent, Stretch and Melksham will hold their place due to Darwin. 

OUT: Hunt, Hannan

IN: Tyson, Trengove. 

Stretch for Tyson and Kent for Watts.  I'd like to see Smith get another week.

Playing TIO Stadium, small ground, no way we play 4 talls.

IN: Watts, Tyson

OUT: Stretch, Pederson

Could easily replace Kent with BenKen.

32 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

The trip to Darwin might mean Watts remains another week away so Pedo stays.

Would like to see JW back in asap. Hes been out 3 weeks and I'm noticing the turn around time for players to get back in their groove Although JW is probably the exception to the rule. Finals a knockin and we need all hands on deck and in peak form. 

Must address the centre clear. issue of today. Alarmingly carltons was 3 times higher than Dees. Not common to the have such a deficit and win.

Edited July 9, 20178 yr by leave it to deever

2 hours ago, Mdemonski3 said:

Not sure if serious. Drop Hunt?

Come on man.....you're better than that.

Didn't say drop, said rest clearly the kid isn't even close to 100%

Pedo makes way in Darwin if Watts is ready.

Otherwise Tyson for Kent. Jeffy and ANB are good small forwards.

1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said:

Playing TIO Stadium, small ground, no way we play 4 talls.

IN: Watts, Tyson

OUT: Stretch, Pederson

Could easily replace Kent with BenKen.

You've essentially offered up a like for like so I'm not sure of your point.

 

 

2 hours ago, JV7 said:

Just realised we play Adelaide on a 6 day break they have 8.. On all of our recent three 6 day breaks the opposition has always had the maximum break possible.. [censored]

 

It is just unbelievable.  Can not believe this fixturing.  Peter Jackson can not allow this crap to happen ever again.

6 hours ago, bing181 said:

But isn't that the problem? He's now being asked to play also as an insider, and then with the absence of insiders, there's less opportunity to stand back and be that linkman. Also, he does have decent/good disposal, but only when he has time.

It's an interesting one, not sure of the solution.

Yes he is being asked to play an insider and therefore out of position. I think Tenners would be a much better bet. Saw him play vfl this week. Whilst he did not set the world on fire, he is all class, and can kick - straight!

I'm almost of the opinion that I'd rather players are rested for next week with all the guns in for the Port game...that is a huge game.

i think we need 13 wins for finals....

4 hours ago, Old Bear said:

Without Pederson throwing his body into every contest in the last quarter there is no way we would have won it

 

 

Same as West Coast!

3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Would like to see JW back in asap. Hes been out 3 weeks and I'm noticing the turn around time for players to get back in their groove Although JW is probably the exception to the rule. Finals a knockin and we need all hands on deck and in peak form. 

Must address the centre clear. issue of today. Alarmingly carltons was 3 times higher than Dees. Not common to the have such a deficit and win.

Yes we had 3 of our most senior inside onballers out - Viney, Jones, and Tyson. This will be fixed when they come back and Max runs into form. 

To win last night an outstanding effort in the circumstances. I expect Darwin to be a re-run of the Swans game, thereafter with much of our midfield back plus JW, a very strong finish for the year. Tmac up forward a huge bonus for us - isn't it wonderful to have such a reliable kick for goal??

7 hours ago, praha said:

Lol...

Always a great contribution to a discussion.

Vince is out of contract this year. Is 32yo. Not sure he will get another run after this year. Served us well during our down years. 

No way will Lewis play out his 3rd year. 

Desperately missing viney and jones. We were smashed around the clearances. Hopefully Tyson is right as he will help in this area.

We won the game due to their injuries. Goodwin will need to come up with a plan to at least break even in this area 

1 hour ago, bandicoot said:

Vince is out of contract this year. Is 32yo. Not sure he will get another run after this year. Served us well during our down years. 

No way will Lewis play out his 3rd year. 

Desperately missing viney and jones. We were smashed around the clearances. Hopefully Tyson is right as he will help in this area.

We won the game due to their injuries. Goodwin will need to come up with a plan to at least break even in this area 

THis just underlines the importance of continuing to buld the midfield, through the draft and free agency,

Lewis and Vince are almost done, and Jonesy can't go forever. And there are question marks on Brayshaws health.  

Jason Taylor might take mids at every pick this upcoming draft. He will be licking his lips that we are back in the first round. 

Hogans second efforts were a disgrace. completely non existent.  it's embarassing. And this has got nothing to do with being out of form or fitness its about mental intent. And its a part of his game thats never been addressed or fixed. Needs to be dropped. Cant afford to carry guys who don't chase. People have a go at guys like melksham and even in previous seasons guys like Dunn. but at least they have a crack. 

1 hour ago, Freak said:

Hogans second efforts were a disgrace. completely non existent.  it's embarassing. And this has got nothing to do with being out of form or fitness its about mental intent. And its a part of his game thats never been addressed or fixed. Needs to be dropped. Cant afford to carry guys who don't chase. People have a go at guys like melksham and even in previous seasons guys like Dunn. but at least they have a crack. 

Agree with Melksham. He does some frustrating things by foot, but works very hard. I will always back a player if they are giving 100% of their ability.

2 hours ago, Freak said:

Hogans second efforts were a disgrace. completely non existent.  it's embarassing. And this has got nothing to do with being out of form or fitness its about mental intent. And its a part of his game thats never been addressed or fixed. Needs to be dropped. Cant afford to carry guys who don't chase. People have a go at guys like melksham and even in previous seasons guys like Dunn. but at least they have a crack. 

Agree I said before I would give Hoges the rest of the year off to recover mentally and physically

I really hope the club sees the sense in this I really think Hogan may give up footy sooner rather than later

I hope he doesnt but it must be incredibly difficult for him particularly if he struggles for form over the next month

12 hours ago, Mdemonski3 said:

Kent was awful today and don't need pedo next week.

Out: Kent, pedo

in: watts & Tyson.

ps has Damien Barrett seen Tyson play yet by the way?

Kent was awful in first qtr, some of his efforts were atrocious and i was frustrated as anyone. But his effort improved as the game went on. He is rusty but id give him another week. If he can get back to the 2-3 goals per game he us capable of, then that must be worth giving him another 1-2 weeks. It must be his last chance though.

In      Tyson

Out   Stretch

 

Smith and Kent can have another go around. Smith in particular will be better for the run and Kent was pretty solid after quarter time.

Hogan was scratchy and hesitant - understandably so

Cut him some slack

2 hours ago, Freak said:

Hogans second efforts were a disgrace. completely non existent.  it's embarassing. And this has got nothing to do with being out of form or fitness its about mental intent. And its a part of his game thats never been addressed or fixed. Needs to be dropped. Cant afford to carry guys who don't chase. People have a go at guys like melksham and even in previous seasons guys like Dunn. but at least they have a crack. 

Absolutely agree. Looked way off the pace. Cannot afford to have players "finding form" in the ones, especially at this crucial stage of the season. Back to Casey

I wouldn't be surprised if Hogan steps out himself and takes a week off. But being critical of his performance is silly. His presence is undoubtedly important, and the likes of Garlett, ANB, and yes even Kent are better when he is in the side, regardless of his output. His last quarter was very good. 

Hogan was not at his best but creates a presence in the forward line that results in its overall efficiency. The opposition cant ignore him and even down on form he poses a threat. Sending him to Casey is not the way to build his confidence and form.