On 09/08/2017 at 6:43 PM, Wrecked Owl Dees Function said:

Jack Riewoldt leaving? What is the relevance to Hogan if I may ask? A trade?

I suspect WODF that you misses the ironic inflection in the poster's voice. 

19 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Hopefully he'll be having a week off after the pies game before finals. I suspect they might have wanted him to have a couple of games then a break rather than one on one off

Possibly not the best word to use in this context - perhaps time off, or rest would be better ?

12 hours ago, 3726062254 said:

However, we need to trust the club Doc's and fitness staff.

No we don't need to trust them anymore. Viney, Gawn, Salem and Watts all came back too early.

12 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Yes. It's not related to the planter fascia that was operated on according to Mahoney..

Would love to know whether the current injury was caused by Viney compensating for his original injury. Too much of a co-incidence for mine

8 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

No we don't need to trust them anymore. Viney, Gawn, Salem and Watts all came back too early.

Would love to know whether the current injury was caused by Viney compensating for his original injury. Too much of a co-incidence for mine

Your post: "Viney came back too early, but I don't know if this new injury is related to the old injury."

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Your post: "Viney came back too early, but I don't know if this new injury is related to the old injury."

Yep. Viney did come back to early whether reinjured or not. Played 1 good game since back. Love him for trying though

Hogan is arguably the most valuable player on our list. I'm beginning to believe we play worse with him.

i'm not a massive believer in stats but I want to see big numbers from Hogan if he comes back in tackles and pressure stats.

6 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

i justed busted my collarbone in 4 places, sitting in hospital after surgery

Interests:Motorbikes

1 minute ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Interests:Motorbikes

I feel your pain bro. Get better soon. I broke my collarbone (+ ribs + vertebrae) in a cycling accident some years ago.

And my son broke his collarbone 2 weeks ago. (Football injury.)

Tip. Maybe give away the motorbike??

29 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

. I'm beginning to believe we play worse with him.

 

A myth

Round 1 -   30 pt Win v Saints - Hogan 21 disposals, 8 marks, 3 goals

Round 2 -   22 pt Win v Blues -  Hogan 22 disposals, 10 marks

Suspended

Round 5 - 11 point loss to Tigers - Hogan 11 disposals, 3 goals - Tigers only beat us as we were two men down

Jesses father passes away

Round 7 -  3 point loss to Hawks -  Hogan  16 disposals, 4 marks, 3 goals

Diagnosed with his illness

Round 16  -  18 point win vs Blues - Hogan  10 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal

Round 17  -  46 point loss to Crows - Hogan  11 disposals, 7 marks

Round 18  -  23 point win vs Power - Hogan  23 disposals, 5 marks, 3 goals

Round 19 -  4 point loss vs North - Hogan  11 disposals, 2 marks, 1 goal - injured during game

 

Hes played 8 games, our record is 4-4. THe RIchmond loss was unlucky, and we would have beat North if he didnt get injured.

He was dominant in 3 games. He started strong vs Kangas before breaking collarbone.

He was understandably rusty for a couple of games coming back from his illness.

Hes had the most interrupted season you will ever see from any player for so many different reasons. 

We are much better when hes in the team and you're right, he is incredibly valuable.

Edited August 18, 20177 yr by Petraccattack

3 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Interests:Motorbikes

Sherlock Holmes is correct

the only problem is a bike in Rome is a Magic Carpet, i came unstuck.. litterally going down a steep dry grass hill on road tyres on a 220kg bike. Before and After Photos (Abruzzo Mountains shortly before i got the helicopter view ;-(

Edited August 18, 20177 yr by DaisyDeeciple
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9 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

A myth

Round 1 -   30 pt Win v Saints - Hogan 21 disposals, 8 marks, 3 goals

Round 2 -   22 pt Win v Blues -  Hogan 22 disposals, 10 marks

Suspended

Round 5 - 11 point loss to Tigers - Hogan 11 disposals, 3 goals - Tigers only beat us as we were two men down

Jesses father passes away

Round 7 -  3 point loss to Hawks -  Hogan  16 disposals, 4 marks, 3 goals

Diagnosed with his illness

Round 16  -  18 point win vs Blues - Hogan  10 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal

Round 17  -  46 point loss to Crows - Hogan  11 disposals, 7 marks

Round 18  -  23 point win vs Power - Hogan  23 disposals, 5 marks, 3 goals

Round 19 -  4 point loss vs North - Hogan  11 disposals, 2 marks, 1 goal - injured during game

 

Hes played 8 games, our record is 4-4. THe RIchmond loss was unlucky, and we would have beat North if he didnt get injured.

He was dominant in 3 games. He started strong vs Kangas before breaking collarbone.

He was understandably rusty for a couple of games coming back from his illness.

Hes had the most interrupted season you will ever see from any player for so many different reasons. 

We are much better when hes in the team and you're right, he is incredibly valuable.

Good post. I can't remember a season where one player gets floored and has to get up again so many times over. Talk about the year from hell. He hasn't had any real chance to get going, but has still been alright, and has shown glimpses of his best.

Fitting that this week, he plays game 50 on his third comeback for the year. He gets so much focus that it feels like it should be 150, but it's a reminder that he's still only just getting started. It won't be long before he finally does actually get a decent run at it and will remind people how good he is. 

9 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

A myth

Round 1 -   30 pt Win v Saints - Hogan 21 disposals, 8 marks, 3 goals

Round 2 -   22 pt Win v Blues -  Hogan 22 disposals, 10 marks

Suspended

Round 5 - 11 point loss to Tigers - Hogan 11 disposals, 3 goals - Tigers only beat us as we were two men down

Jesses father passes away

Round 7 -  3 point loss to Hawks -  Hogan  16 disposals, 4 marks, 3 goals

Diagnosed with his illness

Round 16  -  18 point win vs Blues - Hogan  10 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal

Round 17  -  46 point loss to Crows - Hogan  11 disposals, 7 marks

Round 18  -  23 point win vs Power - Hogan  23 disposals, 5 marks, 3 goals

Round 19 -  4 point loss vs North - Hogan  11 disposals, 2 marks, 1 goal - injured during game

 

Hes played 8 games, our record is 4-4. THe RIchmond loss was unlucky, and we would have beat North if he didnt get injured.

He was dominant in 3 games. He started strong vs Kangas before breaking collarbone.

He was understandably rusty for a couple of games coming back from his illness.

Hes had the most interrupted season you will ever see from any player for so many different reasons. 

We are much better when hes in the team and you're right, he is incredibly valuable.

A really good post.

I think the myth that we could be better off Hogan is that all our most momentous wins of late have in Jesse-free sides; Vs Geelong in Geelong, Vs Hawks at the G and then this year Vs Crows in Adelaide and Eagles over in the West.  

On 18/08/2017 at 9:51 AM, daisycutter said:

should be good weather for football

Sunday 20 August

Summary

Min 4

Max 14

Partly cloudy.

Possible rainfall: 0 mm

Chance of any rain: 20% 

Melbourne area

Partly cloudy. Areas of morning frost about the nearby hills. Slight (20%) chance of a shower in the evening. Light winds becoming north to northeasterly 15 to 20 km/h during the evening.

Fingers crossed. I hope he gets through. Still feels early. 

22 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

the only problem is a bike in Rome is a Magic Carpet, i came unstuck.. litterally going down a steep dry grass hill on road tyres on a 220kg bike. Before and After Photos (Abruzzo Mountains shortly before i got the helicopter view ;-(

 

Nominated for the 2018 Demons' away strip. 

On 8/18/2017 at 11:18 PM, Petraccattack said:

A myth

Round 1 -   30 pt Win v Saints - Hogan 21 disposals, 8 marks, 3 goals

Round 2 -   22 pt Win v Blues -  Hogan 22 disposals, 10 marks

Suspended

Round 5 - 11 point loss to Tigers - Hogan 11 disposals, 3 goals - Tigers only beat us as we were two men down

Jesses father passes away

Round 7 -  3 point loss to Hawks -  Hogan  16 disposals, 4 marks, 3 goals

Diagnosed with his illness

Round 16  -  18 point win vs Blues - Hogan  10 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal

Round 17  -  46 point loss to Crows - Hogan  11 disposals, 7 marks

Round 18  -  23 point win vs Power - Hogan  23 disposals, 5 marks, 3 goals

Round 19 -  4 point loss vs North - Hogan  11 disposals, 2 marks, 1 goal - injured during game

 

Hes played 8 games, our record is 4-4. THe RIchmond loss was unlucky, and we would have beat North if he didnt get injured.

He was dominant in 3 games. He started strong vs Kangas before breaking collarbone.

He was understandably rusty for a couple of games coming back from his illness.

Hes had the most interrupted season you will ever see from any player for so many different reasons. 

We are much better when hes in the team and you're right, he is incredibly valuable.

Good post.

I think there is more to it than his stats alone. But just on these, the timing of his worst games (Richmond, Hawthorn, Carlton 2, Adelaide) becomes quite marked.

He was also building into really solid form before the collarbone. His game against Port was really important and he set up our first half lead with the football he excels at. I hope he's able to recapture that today.

This guy. Lost his Dad this year, fought Testicular cancer, back 2 weeks after breaking his collarbone.... amazing! 

On 18/08/2017 at 4:46 PM, DaisyDeeciple said:

i justed busted my collarbone in 4 places, sitting in hospital after surgery, feel like throwing up at the thought of playing, Hogan is made of stone

Well said mate!!

Jesse Hogan!  Everyone who has doubted him or wanted to trade him, hang your head.

All year he’s been Resilient and Courageous.

Today he was Inspirational.  A terrific 50^th game from him.  Virtually won the game from his own boot.

6 goals.  Welcome back, Jesse.

Edited August 20, 20177 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Trade him. 

For Lever, Kelly, Hipwood and two 1st round picks. 

10 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

Trade him. 

For Lever, Kelly, Hipwood and two 1st round picks. 

Still wouldn't do it!

Absolutely amazing comeback three weeks after a broken clavicle. Just amazing.  

On 18/08/2017 at 10:49 PM, Wrecker45 said:

Hogan is arguably the most valuable player on our list. I'm beginning to believe we play worse with him.

i'm not a massive believer in stats but I want to see big numbers from Hogan if he comes back in tackles and pressure stats.

You were saying?

One of the best "return from injury" games i have ever seen

busted collarbone 3 weeks ago...

thankyou Jesse...

I felt like he moved as well as I've seen him in 2 years today. He just looked fit, and he ran at the ball carrier a lot.

His kicking was incredible too. He didn't look like missing. 

Just to give it some perspective Daniher has played 70 odd games straight for Essendon. If Jesse does that for us we will win a flag and he'll win a Coleman.

He had confidence in leading up at the ball carrier, he had confidence when it hit the ground, and he had confidence in his set shot routine (20 steps every time).

A reminder to the competition what he is capable of.