3 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Lewis and Vince reducing their game load by swapping in and out is the only positive.old heads like these guys are not going to change their aggressive natures this late- rightly or wrongly.

For two 30 plus year olds this gives us another chance to play someone up and coming.

The question is who to replace Hogan with.

Seems to be out of an underdone Pedersen and Frost or an in form Spencer.

I seem to recall Hogan out and Spencer in last time we pantsed Geelong.So it may be the right formula,though we must take into account Geelong are struggling for tall forwards and are throwing Harry T around as an option.

Kent coming in doesn't seem likely yet judging from Caseys game.

Tim Smith is not exactly killing it yet either .

Looks like Vince and Spencer in for Hogan and Lewis out.

Just realised this should be in the selection thread but it is changed forced upon us by suspensions.

I don't think Spencer plays because it's Ethihad.  I think they go small and bring in Kent 

Just to upset you all some more.

Crows Tom Lynch broke Birchall's jaw with a forearm, which Dermie called deliberate this afternoon on SEN.

Guess what, no penalty.

Preust in a cowardly act, jumped into a Geelong player's back with his knee after the mark was taken. Could have crippled him. Most media thought 2-3 weeks.

Guess what no penalty.

The one referred to by many on here, the Scott Thomson elbow to Danger's jaw, which most media thought was 2-3.

Guess what, penalty one week. 

Me personally, I could live with accepting the penalties, as long as the club stood up for the players and supporters, incurred the fine and blasted the MRP, highlighting the above. 

29 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Be interested in seeing how Lewis explains himself on AFL 360 tonight. The fact that 2 of our leaders have been suspended in consecutive weeks is a disgrace. The club needs to address it.

Think he is on tomorrow.

I'm surprised with the Hogan penalty.

I thought it would fall under careless instead of intentional.  Careless in that he was pushing him off without really looking at him and not intentionally hitting him in the head.  I also thought it would be low impact instead of medium.  

Some of the hits deemed low impact last year make this decision a bit bewildering to me.

But, it is what it is.

This could be a blessing in disguise

Players will be angry about this. Reliance on certain individuals will increase, resulting in them working and training harder. It's just this huge game against Geelong. Their penalties are probably unfair but they were always going to atleast miss a week. Hoges and Jordy get a few weeks to rest their bodies. I'd be fairly confident about beating freo without them, and Richmond to a lesser extent

I thought Cripps already had some marks on his face before the incident, i wonder.....

I find it odd that because Cripps and Carlton say the Lewis "hit" is what fractured his jaw, we have to take it as such. 

Take it to the tribunal and call Cripps as the victim. Ask him if he can say 100% for certain that that was the strike that caused the fracture. Ask him if he felt the pain at the time, if he did why didn't he go off or tell anyone or grab at it. If he didn't feel the pain then and there, can we assume that it's a possibility it was fractured during another contact? 

Or just cop the penalty, whatever.

Edited April 3, 20178 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Not worried. We have depth now and I expect that there will be more than just the two compulsory changes. The AFL season is long and hard. Jordan Lewis will come back nice and refreshed in Round 6 and Jesse will be champing at the bit when he returns in Round 5.

Have a look at the vision and Cripps gets up and never touches his face and isn't told to go off by the Blues medical guys.

That is hardly what you would expect for someone who has allegedly suffered a fractured jaw.

 

I've had a hairline fracture of the jaw. I didn't even know I had it for about 3 days.

There was no treatment required. It heals itself. A mashed finger (when the ball lands right on the end) is a worse injury.

Didn't stop me doing anything ... eating, rooting, shooting ... nothing.

As severe injuries go, it's right down there. I hope that didn't factor in to the MRP's coin tosses considered deliberation.

To me it looked possible from the vision that Hogan punched at the chest and it slipped up. It may be worth fighting to get it down from intentional. 

Not sure about medium impact also. Did he go off for a concussion test?

same goes with the Lewis footage. Did he open palm the shoulder and slip up? From what I can see it looks like an open palm rather than a closed fist.

2 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Callum Twomey reporting that Cripps suffered a minor Jaw fracture. That would explain 1.

 

At least some good came out of it. 

12 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

At least some good came out of it. 

I bet he's miraculously ok to play with it though. 

How annoying is it that clubs like Hawthorn and Geelong have been doing this stuff for 10 years and the AFL shift focus to it and make an example of us.

22 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Didn't stop me doing anything ... eating, rooting, shooting ... nothing.

That sounds like Allen Jakovich's careeer, if you meant shooting for goal.

Everyone knows the MRP is a lottery. Yep the only consistent aspect of the MRP is its inconsistency. 

That said Jordan Lewis' actions were just bloody stupid and I don't have much sympathy for him. It is Round 2 and his loading for his bad record which made him serve an extra week would have expired after Round 5. Its time for Jordan to realise footy has changed and he has to change. The MFC has invested significant dollars and years in him and he should understand that to repay that he needs to be on the field. 

Hogan was a bit unlucky but again if you make contact to the head your numbers might come up at the MRP. Don't give them the opportunity. End of story.

 

 

the mrp is literally the luck of the draw now, zero consistently and seemingly void of common sense 

Lewis would be thinking wtf is this [censored]?

At Hawthorn he would've gotten one week.

Time to lawyer-up, MFC.

The Age is reporting MFC will not appeal either case.

The Club confident we have enough depth? 

The Club letting players take responsibility for their actions?

Either way it is certainly a swift and calm reaction.  That alone is reassuring.

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

I'm surprised with the Hogan penalty.

I thought it would fall under careless instead of intentional.  Careless in that he was pushing him off without really looking at him and not intentionally hitting him in the head.  I also thought it would be low impact instead of medium.  

Some of the hits deemed low impact last year make this decision a bit bewildering to me.

But, it is what it is.

SEN saying the medical report on Rowe says delayed concussion, thus the medium impact ruling! Both Carlton guys must have a glass jaws. 

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

I still think the timing around Lewis hitting Cripps stopped their momentum and then  lead to us winning the game. 

That's what having a hard edge is all about. Turning the momentum of the game. Sometimes sacrifices are made. Could have been done better but we were on the way to another serious embarrassment before that happened. 

Edited April 3, 20178 yr by america de cali

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

That's what having a hard edge is all about. Turning the momentum of the game. Sometimes sacrifices are made. Could have been done better but we were on the way to another serious embarrassment before that happened. 

We won because Lewis punched Cripps?

Is your name Dermott Brereton?

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

We won because Lewis punched Cripps?

Is your name Dermott Brereton?

No, I'm not Rodney Grinter either. 

Edited April 3, 20178 yr by america de cali

3 hours ago, brendan said:

3 matches for what? They must have more footage of it that is an absolute joke 

I read somewhere that they have extra footage from other cameras that the networks do not show. If so, why don't they release it?

7 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

SEN saying the medical report on Rowe says delayed concussion, thus the medium impact ruling! Both Carlton guys must have a glass jaws. 

Reported on 3AW tonight that Carlton submitted a report to the AFL re Rowe's postmatch headaches.

Carlton dogged on us.

A club I genuinely hate.

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

I don't think Spencer plays because it's Ethihad.  I think they go small and bring in Kent 

Wouldn't mind seeing how Petracca goes at full forward even in bursts