I can't see Hawthorn coming back from here.

I love it, and I hate it.

A few things about the "new' Hawthorn - Vickery still sucks, O'Meara and Roughead are rustier than most of the Essendon returnees, they're sorely missing Mitchell, Lewis and Hodge for the cool heads and experience at the stoppages, Sicily is no good as a defender, Burgoyne looks slow...all of which is enjoyable to watch.

I wonder how much of this Essendon performance is emotion for their first game back (similarly to their first game in Melbourne last year...cough).

I finally just start to decide I'd definitely prefer Essendon to win because watching Hawthorn get done is just so enjoyable, but then the commentators start again with the "oh poor Essendon" shieet and it makes me want to chuck.  

I'd forgotten how good a player Dyson Heppell was though.

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

I finally just start to decide I'd definitely prefer Essendon to win because watching Hawthorn get done is just so enjoyable, but then the commentators start again with the "oh poor Essendon" shieet and it makes me want to chuck.  

I'd forgotten how good a player Dyson Heppell was though.

I can't stand the "poor old Essendon" narrative.

I hate the way they got to pick their own Round 1 Saturday night home game opponent.

But I love watching a thoroughly average Hawthorn walk off the MCG, embarrassed.

I'm actually really happy for the bombers players and fans. Wtf is wrong with me?

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

But I love watching a thoroughly average Hawthorn walk off the MCG, embarrassed.

Same.  Having Jordan Lewis contribute to a carve-up for us is just icing on the cake - they could definitely have used him today.  A lot of the narrative from Hawthorn supporters gave an attitude of nonchalance about the whole thing, but I thought at the time they should have been filthy about the way he and Mitchell were moved on - I sure would have been.  I think they will be soon enough.

Thank you Hawthorn. It will be a most enjoyable year watching you unravel. 

7 minutes ago, Moneider96 said:

I'm actually really happy for the bombers players and fans. Wtf is wrong with me?

Nah I'm just happy the Hawks fans are unhappy. Them and the Cats fans need a good few years out of the 8 to remember they have no rightful place in the finals. 

Bombers fans are going to be painful, you'll quickly get through this troubling period in your life.

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Same.  Having Jordan Lewis contribute to a carve-up for us is just icing on the cake - they could definitely have used him today.  A lot of the narrative from Hawthorn supporters gave an attitude of nonchalance about the whole thing, but I thought at the time they should have been filthy about the way he and Mitchell were moved on - I sure would have been.  I think they will be soon enough.

I saw a tweet earlier from the ABC's coverage of the game. Someone said Hawthorn didn't have the same aura or arrogance, to which Mark Maclure (I think) responded "one went to West Coast, one went to Melbourne".

Hodge will help bring some of that back, but the new look Hawthorn really did look just average without them out there.

Just now, Pates said:

Nah I'm just happy the Hawks fans are unhappy. Them and the Cats fans need a good few years out of the 8 to remember they have no rightful place in the finals. 

Bombers fans are going to be painful, you'll quickly get through this troubling period in your life.

Sydney losing to Port, at home, in a year in which Port did not take many punters' fancy, is positive too.

Getting Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong out of the finals is a huge step in the right direction for the AFL's competitiveness.

GC17 coming home with a rattle and a bang against the Bears

bears win despite suns having 32 more inside 50's and 10 more marks inside 50

The bummers look overjoyed and are over celebrating.....we will smash them.

Don't like the Bombers winning.

Every win they get allows them to add to their and their supporters' victim mentality and self righteous belief that they were right all along. 

While I think that the treatment that they got in the end was commensurate to their sins in terms of punitive measures, they should NEVER be allowed to forget the dark stain they put on the AFL.

Just now, Colin B. Flaubert said:

Don't like the Bombers winning.

Every win they get allows them to add to their and their supporters' victim mentality and self righteous belief that they were right all along. 

While I think that the treatment that they got in the end was commensurate to their sins in terms of punitive measures, they should NEVER be allowed to forget the dark stain they put on the AFL.

not the afl, col, you mean our game. the afl have already covered themselves in stains

I don't mind the Bummers winning tonight. They were the better team and made the most of their opportunities. What I can't stand is the 'Official' broadcaster fawning over the them as if they did nothing wrong. 

Hawks supporters may be smug and arrogant but nothing like that of Ess supporters.  Can't stand either club or supporters but at least the Hawks earnt their smugness from 4 premierships.  efc get theirs from some misguided sense of entitlement.

Have absolutely loathed efc since the 2000 GF.  Their recent years have only added to that. 

Forever and a day I will barrack against efc - even vs Collingwood. 

Rocket Eade first to go in 2017.

Sorry but essendon winning just ruined the round. Can't stand how there fans blamed the AFL for everything and Turd is just awesome and did nothing wrong. If it wasn't the golden boy in charge and someone else did what they did hatred would be high. Hearing about this great comeback story makes me mad. Roughead is a great comeback story with what he went through. 

I like how Port beat the swans and nice for Fagan to get his first win. But gee not a good start for Gold Coast 

12 minutes into third quarter .. Roos v WCE

Kennedy 5 goals.... Le Cras 4 goals (9 out of 13 goals scored so far by WCE)

Josh Kelly would complete our side. Hope we are into him. Insane vision and execution. Doesn't waste a kick.

Will be cheering for Freo tonight.   Sick of the Cats and Hawks, and want them to both miss the finals.  Sydney too but they will make it for sure.

Mitchell and Lewis 70 possies.

 

Hawthorn:

Steve Johnson is a sniping clown.

Get the feeling the giants are believing their own hype, the crows are working so much harder but not finishing off their work 

camry's vs gw$ is a cracker of a game.