Every time I become at peace with Jake Spencer I remember the time against the Roos in 09' he dropped the ball when running in to have a set shot... 

In all seriousness though I am confident in Spencer, he has come along & will be more than capable to fill in for the time Gawns out. It's quiet scary that in some ways Spencer is more important that Gawn, we always knew we had a reasonable back up if Gawn went down, if Spencer goes does were screwed! 

32 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Imagine Max went down this time last year? Demonland meltdown. We've come a long way with our MFCSS in a short space of time.

Absolutely agree. And there's a reason for that - we have the talent and game plan to push on.

cant believe I'm saying this but I thought Slobbo summed it up well just now on 360. We may well look back on this setback and admire how our group galvanised and stuck to its guns.

Just now, Deemented Are Go! said:

Absolutely agree. And there's a reason for that - we have the talent and game plan to push on.

cant believe I'm saying this but I thought Slobbo summed it up well just now on 360. We may well look back on this setback and admire how our group galvanised and stuck to its guns.

I saw what Robbo said and agree 100% with him.

1 minute ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Absolutely agree. And there's a reason for that - we have the talent and game plan to push on.

cant believe I'm saying this but I thought Slobbo summed it up well just now on 360. We may well look back on this setback and admire how our group galvanised and stuck to its guns.

Must have been sober..

Disappointed to lose the best ruckman in the game for half the season, obviously, but in a way I'm looking forward to the element of intrigue this adds.

Spencer's games record in a season is 8. Not many players get to stay on a list for 10 years for 36 games - most either get axed or go looking for more opportunities, so it's a very unusual case of the club and player sticking together. He's never had an extended go like he's about to get, and opinion is so divided on him. I suspect we're about to find out one way or the other if he's truly capable as an AFL ruckman or not.

Good luck Jake!

13 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Disappointed to lose the best ruckman in the game for half the season, obviously, but in a way I'm looking forward to the element of intrigue this adds.

Soencer's games record in a season is 8. Not many players get to stay on a list for 10 years for 36 games - most either get axed or go looking for more opportunities, so it's a very unusual case of the club and player sticking together. He's never had an extended go like he's about to get, and opinion is so divided on him. I suspect we're about to find out one way or the other if he's truly capable as an AFL ruckman or not.

Good luck Jake!

Nice to see him play 50 for all that effort !

15 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Nice to see him play 50 for all that effort !

Don't jinx him.

He needs to get there first. I'm more worried about the MRP than injury preventing him at this stage.

Surgery for Bernie Vince

 

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-04-09/vince-undergoes-surgery-for-toe-injury

I probably lost the equivalent of a full nail as well watching them all line-up for goals on the weekend. 

"It's the challenges along the way, that make the team grow"

Zen Robbo on 360

Other teams have won premierships without a top line dominating ruckman, even in recent times. Just get on with playing the best footy we can with the most in form players (whether it's up and comers, older guys, whoever...just play the best "in form' who is showing they are up to it at Casey for a few weeks on end for the role required at AFL level) and we still make the finals, subject to no further injury woes

1 hour ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Absolutely agree. And there's a reason for that - we have the talent and game plan to push on.

cant believe I'm saying this but I thought Slobbo summed it up well just now on 360. We may well look back on this setback and admire how our group galvanised and stuck to its guns.

 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I saw what Robbo said and agree 100% with him.

 

1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Must have been sober..

Highly unlikely but I agreed with his summation.

 

32 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

"It's the challenges along the way, that make the team grow"

Zen Robbo on 360

Sun Tzu reincarnate. 

2 hours ago, JV7 said:

Every time I become at peace with Jake Spencer I remember the time against the Roos in 09' he dropped the ball when running in to have a set shot... 

In all seriousness though I am confident in Spencer, he has come along & will be more than capable to fill in for the time Gawns out. It's quiet scary that in some ways Spencer is more important that Gawn, we always knew we had a reasonable back up if Gawn went down, if Spencer goes does we're screwed! 

Incredibly, our next in line available ruckman has only recently returned to football and has not even played a VFL game yet. (If I remember correctly, even the injured Mitch has yet to play a VFL game).

Spencer now he is fit would probably get a game with some other clubs with poorer ruck stocks despite his deficiencies. He should be serviceable while playing in the ruck but is a burden if he needs to rest up forward. Good that he gets some reward for his efforts of the years

13 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Other teams have won premierships without a top line dominating ruckman, even in recent times. Just get on with playing the best footy we can with the most in form players (whether it's up and comers, older guys, whoever...just play the best "in form' who is showing they are up to it at Casey for a few weeks on end for the role required at AFL level) and we still make the finals, subject to no further injury woes

Note the injuries the Bullies had last year.  They obviously overcame adversity, over the course of the year, to win the ultimate prize.  "Why not us"?

15 hours ago, JV7 said:

Every time I become at peace with Jake Spencer I remember the time against the Roos in 09' he dropped the ball when running in to have a set shot... 

In all seriousness though I am confident in Spencer, he has come along & will be more than capable to fill in for the time Gawns out. It's quiet scary that in some ways Spencer is more important that Gawn, we always knew we had a reasonable back up if Gawn went down, if Spencer goes does were screwed! 

This is also how I always remember Jake unfortunately. Still it happened at Docklands, when we were trying to lose. If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

16 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Spencer now he is fit would probably get a game with some other clubs with poorer ruck stocks despite his deficiencies. He should be serviceable while playing in the ruck but is a burden if he needs to rest up forward. Good that he gets some reward for his efforts of the years

He has a stronger set of hands these days. I think he'll surprise a few with his effectiveness up forward and around the ground and he did kick 3 goals in one of our JLT matches.

Edited April 11, 20178 yr by Luther

7 minutes ago, Luther said:

He has a stronger set of hands these days. I think he'll surprise a few with his effectiveness up forward and around the ground and he did kick 3 goals in one of our JLT matches.

What I do like is his physical presence in the ruck and when the ball falls to the ground. He's a big boy and opens up space for the other onballers

15 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Must have been sober..

Now you are pushing the bounds of credibility.

Interesting stats. Will be hard to replace his dominance as the charts and numbers highlight

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-11/the-stats-files-are-the-demons-gawn-plus-make-your-september-plans

 

Boy.. such confidence on this site that we can overcome injuries, suspensions etc.

Let's be honest... we now have no reserve forwards, no more reserve rucks and the backline is looking thin. And now Vince off for surgery!

Riewoldt goes down with what looks like a season if not career ending injury and is back after missing one match.... MFCSS is very much alive with me as I keep remembering Spencer's VFL finals series last year.

Lucky we are playing Freo this week .. hopefully it is their turn to be "young and tired".

PS: Now see that Vince might do a Lazarus and play this weekend.... fingers crossed

 

Edited April 11, 20178 yr by Diamond_Jim

39 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Spencer now he is fit would probably get a game with some other clubs with poorer ruck stocks despite his deficiencies. He should be serviceable while playing in the ruck but is a burden if he needs to rest up forward. Good that he gets some reward for his efforts of the years

Why is he a burden, be specific

16 hours ago, JV7 said:

Every time I become at peace with Jake Spencer I remember the time against the Roos in 09' he dropped the ball when running in to have a set shot... 

In all seriousness though I am confident in Spencer, he has come along & will be more than capable to fill in for the time Gawns out. It's quiet scary that in some ways Spencer is more important that Gawn, we always knew we had a reasonable back up if Gawn went down, if Spencer goes does were screwed! 

Gee you remember something from 8 years ago, I've moved on from last weeks game, it's easy if you try

Spencer if he gets a go is coming off a full pre season for only about the 2nd time in ten years and two years of ruck coaching from Greg Stafford, also been told his running and aerobic ability is the best it has ever been

His goal kicking action now is one of the simplest at the club, they stripped it back, reasonably successful now

Edited April 11, 20178 yr by Satyriconhome

6 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Interesting stats. Will be hard to replace his dominance as the charts and numbers highlight

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-11/the-stats-files-are-the-demons-gawn-plus-make-your-september-plans

 

Spencil will do better than Watts did. He wont be as good as max but those stats were a little out of context. Better to compare the stats between rounds 1/2 and 4/5 after Spence as a couple of games.  

All I ask is for posters to give Spence a go and not smash him with the usual "He's a spud" type comments