Get Gus back at the G.

We've missed him.

35 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Did Trenners have multiple concussions as well? 

Both going down the same road for different injury causes. We all know Trenners foot injury and declining pace and it's a big ask for a player who can't take serious knocks to expect him to take more. Unless we trade him to Carlton of course.

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53 minutes ago, Bossdog said:

He has been cleared to play this weekend.

I believe he was cleared to play last week, but apparently the club has an "extra week" policy on concussion.

Concussions are an issue but his lack of speed to get to contests and woeful field kicking under zero pressure are far bigger concerns - he's a mid rotation who based upon 2016-17 doesn't get much of it and doesn't use it well.

Spoke to Gus today at training, he reckons his head is a magnet, but learning how to duck

Has had every scan and test known to man, got the all clear and is having a run this weekend

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Way to early to write off or try to trade a player of his talent. He'll be right with a decent run at it.

In his presser this morning, Goody indicated that Gus will play back (presumably BP or HBF) for Casey this weekend.  I like that approach.  The more 'straight ahead' role, as opposed to being 'in the thick of the action', will hopefully assist in building his confidence and form on the road back to being the Gus most us see as a lock in our best 22 when he is right.

58 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Concussions are an issue but his lack of speed to get to contests and woeful field kicking under zero pressure are far bigger concerns - he's a mid rotation who based upon 2016-17 doesn't get much of it and doesn't use it well.

I need to come to young Gus' defence.

If those comments are based on 2016/2017 its rather harsh...he played only 12 games of the possible 29, The 10 in 2016 were interrupted by injury.  Roos said later they brought him back too quickly after injury early in 2016.  In 2017 he took a hit in the 2nd game, dropped, then injured.  

The valid body of work is 2015 when he played 21 of 22 games and touted as a gun.  From what I recall he was often in the thick of the contest and a very good kick.  He is a much better kick than the likes of Viney, Jones, Tyson etc  He is also a smarter player than those guys...how often in 2015 did he perfectly place the ball for Jeffy to run onto, race in to kick a goal...

@Grand New Flag reported a few weeks ago (paraphrasing) that Gus was physically ok but needed to get his head space right regarding putting his head over the ball.  I think we can all understand that.

Regarding the concussions, Salem has had a few and he has bounced back and I think Gus can too, then he will recover his 2015 form and be the gun some of us think he will be.

Give him time to recover, DA.

Edited May 11, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

I aiways have a chat with Gus, knocked out myself half a dozen times when playing, he understands everybody's concern these days

The last knock frustrated him as it was behind play, hence the joke about the magnet

He has no issue with putting his head in harms way again, just wants to play

4 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Did Trenners have multiple concussions as well? 

No Moon, what he means is that he was injured and there's no quick certain path to recovery like there hasn't been for Brayshaw.

I think an area where posters are quite unfair on gus is his possession numbers. 

His midfield time is quite low so I think it's unfair to expect him to get 30 touches until that increases. 

At vfl level he consistently gets big numbers but at afl level he is quite consistent around the 18 possession mark, playing off a flank mostly. 

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 The trade talk is just plain silly and ridiculous.

Yes if it's to get rid of him but it's not silly if it gets us someone we really need.

37 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Yes if it's to get rid of him but it's not silly if it gets us someone we really need.

True but i think midfield depth is just super important now days. I wouldn't give up on him just yet. Some players just take a bit of time as we have seen with Scott Thompson and Jimmy Bartel. 

His upside is huge.

46 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Yes if it's to get rid of him but it's not silly if it gets us someone we really need.

If trading Gus gave us the ability to get someone like Steven May or Jake Lever to the club we'd have to look at the option, 

I love Gus as a player and i wouldn't even consider trading him unless it meant getting a ready to go A grade player in return.

1 hour ago, pineapple dee said:

No Moon, what he means is that he was injured and there's no quick certain path to recovery like there hasn't been for Brayshaw.

Yes I understand that. My post should have used Demonland's new sarcasm font. My fail.

I was trying to indicate that comparing Trenners foot injury and Gus' concussions isn't apples with apples. They are not "the same path", the treatment and outcomes cannot be compared without using the broadest of brushes.

7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I compare Brayshaws first couple of years to Scott Thompson. In four years with the Dees Thompson careers was just littered with injuries and form and could barely get on the park.

He played 39 games in 4 years. After he got traded to the crows Thommo had a break out year in his 5th year and played the whole season.

Brayshaw is in the exact same spot and currently on 31 games who's also had his career filled with injuries and form. I can see him coming back in the AFL over the next couple of weeks and playing a good stretch of games.

I too also think Brayshaw will make huge strides next year and we'll show the AFL world why we took him high in the draft. The trade talk is just plain silly and ridiculous.

Totally different injuries and therefore no reason to compare their career projections.

Gus named on hbf as mentioned before. Good to see him back playing, saw a bit of time at half back as a junior, so not foreign to him.

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=55336625

I seem to recall Patrick Dangerfield having concussion worries earlier in his career, maybe even up until just a few years ago.

He hasnt had one since - is this just dumb luck or did he modify his game somehow? He is obviously still as ferocious as ever and nobody hits contests harder or faster.  Perhaps Gus should give him a call.

i really like Gus, but he is a little bit 'a dime a dozen'...

1 hour ago, mattjm said:

i really like Gus, but he is a little bit 'a dime a dozen'...

One penny comment ^

I read a Paul Roos comment a few weeks ago, they got him to pick that draft year again, he said he would take Gus at 1, Track at 2 and Paddy at 3. Shows you how highly Roos rates Gus, and I'm with Roos on this one.

6 hours ago, Males said:

I read a Paul Roos comment a few weeks ago, they got him to pick that draft year again, he said he would take Gus at 1, Track at 2 and Paddy at 3. Shows you how highly Roos rates Gus, and I'm with Roos on this one.

He also placed a bid on heeney so at the time they clearly rated heeney in the top 3, which isn't surprising because I think he would have gone pick 1 comfortably in an open draft 

Paul Roos' bias is frustrating, even as a dees supporter.

21 hours ago, bing181 said:

I believe he was cleared to play last week, but apparently the club has an "extra week" policy on concussion.

FM sideways- of course we do.

Lame.

2 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

Paul Roos' bias is frustrating, even as a dees supporter.

I think he is so over the top bias on the radio during our games that it's silly.

God I'm loving it as well!!