It's now official ... Lumumba retires from the AFL

Thanks Heritier, it was certainly an experience having you in the passing parade of players who have gone through the doors of the Melbourne Football Club.

I suppose we are going to have to get used to the fact that you won't be coming down to training any more.

Keep well.

Wish him well in his next phase of life after AFL.

Didn't work out the way we and he hoped, but that is AFL footy.

What a disgrace, on his narcissistic  part, that he was too selfish and thoughtless to sort this out before list lodgement.  

Had he done so in a timely manner, and not lead us all on,  he may have left with at least a modicum of a respectable legacy: now all that will be remembered will be his screwing over the club. 

Didn't work out for H & the MFC, however from first-hand dealings with Josh Mahoney on concussion related issues, the player's long term welfare will take paramount importance.

2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

What a disgrace, on his narcissistic  part, that he was too selfish and thoughtless to sort this out before list lodgement.  

Had he done so in a timely manner, and not lead us all on,  he may have left with at least a modicum of a respectable legacy: now all that will be remembered will be his screwing over the club. 

Would have thought that was slightly harsh.  We don't know the whole story and we don't know all the information H was given about his concussion.  He was under contract and had every right to look at all angles about how he could get himself right and contribute to the club.  Once he was properly informed then he pulled the pin.  Yes, it's a pain that it's come in December and not in October, but to suggest he 'screwed the club' is totally over the top.

Good riddance.

Farewell sweet Prince

 

I don't wish him any ill will and nor do I wish him well.  I have zero feelings for this player. 

Although, I'm happier today than I was the day we drafted him. 

9 minutes ago, McQueen said:

 

I can't believe I sat through that entire movie (even if it was 50 years ago).

I will miss him so....

 

 

I don't know if I wish him ill will or not because I don't know the story and I've strongly suspected from day one that there is much more to it than we know.

I was excited when he joined because I hoped he'd be another Roos' masterstroke of taking players from other clubs as he's done with so many.  He was good early but I started to notice after about 4 or 5 games that so often he seemed to misjudge the flight of the ball when spoiling and how he just got there too late to tackle. And he was rarely on the bottom of packs. I then realized he wasn't a physical player at all and that became more apparent as time went on.  I find it ironic and confusing that he's retired from concussion when nobody has seen him get knocked and he played the way he did.  It's also very confusing that "he's been cleared of any ongoing concussion issues" but advice is that he should retire.  It's also confusing that we wouldn't let him play last year when apparently he wanted to but now can't because of medical advice. Go figure.

So really there is probably a thread of truth in what we are being told but also a hell of a lot we aren't being told and if that's the way he wants it I'm ok with that but it leave one to wonder. I can't form a judgement on the issue.  Perhaps Caro will tell us one day but it doesn't really matter because he's gone.

He said himself that he was upset about the death of Ali.  Perhaps he just found out Martin Luther King is no longer with us and that's knocked him around. Just kidding but it's as plausible as what we are being fed at the moment.

What I do wish him is good health and future success but I can't thank him nor can I damn him on the way out.

Good luck to him. His departure makes zero difference to out best 22, nay our best 25! 

Let's move on from this and promise to never trade with collingwood ever again.

21 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I don't know if I wish him ill will or not because I don't know the story and I've strongly suspected from day one that there is much more to it than we know.

I was excited when he joined because I hoped he'd be another Roos' masterstroke of taking players from other clubs as he's done with so many.  He was good early but I started to notice after about 4 or 5 games that so often he seemed to misjudge the flight of the ball when spoiling and how he just got there too late to tackle. And he was rarely on the bottom of packs. I then realized he wasn't a physical player at all and that became more apparent as time went on.  I find it ironic and confusing that he's retired from concussion when nobody has seen him get knocked and he played the way he did.  It's also very confusing that "he's been cleared of any ongoing concussion issues" but advice is that he should retire.  It's also confusing that we wouldn't let him play last year when apparently he wanted to but now can't because of medical advice. Go figure.

So really there is probably a thread of truth in what we are being told but also a hell of a lot we aren't being told and if that's the way he wants it I'm ok with that but it leave one to wonder. I can't form a judgement on the issue.  Perhaps Caro will tell us one day but it doesn't really matter because he's gone.

He said himself that he was upset about the death of Ali.  Perhaps he just found out Martin Luther King is no longer with us and that's knocked him around. Just kidding but it's as plausible as what we are being fed at the moment.

What I do wish him is good health and future success but I can't thank him nor can I damn him on the way out.

Too many falcons perhaps

His presence on the field for us was so brief that to me he finishes having never really 'felt' like he'd become a Melbourne player.

It is all disappointing but I can't find the urgency in showing any ill-will.

He's an odd one at times, but if you want to complain about him, you have to declare yourself in favour of the 'robots' football culture and the end of 'characters'.

 

"It just don't add up.."

12 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

His presence on the field for us was so brief that to me he finishes having never really 'felt' like he'd become a Melbourne player.

It is all disappointing but I can't find the urgency in showing any ill-will.

He's an odd one at times, but if you want to complain about him, you have to declare yourself in favour of the 'robots' football culture and the end of 'characters'.

 

There are characters and there is character 'Goffy'...not sure where 'H' sits.

16 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

He's an odd one at times, but if you want to complain about him, you have to declare yourself in favour of the 'robots' football culture and the end of 'characters'.

 

No, you don't. 

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

What a disgrace, on his narcissistic  part, that he was too selfish and thoughtless to sort this out before list lodgement.  

Had he done so in a timely manner, and not lead us all on,  he may have left with at least a modicum of a respectable legacy: now all that will be remembered will be his screwing over the club. 

The question I have is how much did we pay a player who refused to take the field and honour his contract.

9 minutes ago, old dee said:

The question I have is how much did we pay a player who refused to take the field and honour his contract.

I think you will find in time, that that is incorrect.

My very strong suspicion, is that he was told that he would most likely play most of the year at Casey and if he wished to retire, we would accommodate that, with a settlement of part of his 2017 contract.

 I believe the concussion issue to be a furphy.

I still wish him well and don't know why people on here turn on our players so quickly.

Surely we can all understand, that he would have preferred to play 40 more games with us and earn his full, remaining two years of his contract, rather than retiring and settling. 

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think you will find in time, that that is incorrect.

My very strong suspicion, is that he was told that he would most likely play most of the year at Casey and if he wished to retire, we would accommodate that, with a settlement of part of his 2017 contract.

 I believe the concussion issue to be a furphy.

I still wish him well and don't know why people on here turn on our players so quickly.

Surely we can all understand, that he would have preferred to play 40 more games with us and earn his full, remaining two years of his contract, rather than retiring and settling. 

But that infers we were lied to all year. I don't find that satisfactory. 

I think there was more to it on both sides. 

I will admit though, nobody actually saw concussion...

Good luck fella.

There is a god ( black or white or bicolored). He was never going to get a gig in the seniors with the talent we have on hand. Good luck to him.