Poster on the  No T$ thread, that's right the No T$ thread, said the Lewis deal is nearly done and he will sign with us in the next couple of days. 

Said the info is from Warrnambool way and  that is Lewis' family home area.

 

 

Edited October 14, 20169 yr by Redleg

On 14 October 2016 at 9:46 AM, Nasher said:

Interesting to consider what deal would have gotten this done.  Someone on BF said the only reason Hawthorn pulled the plug on any deal was because Melbourne low-balled (and I believe that as much as I believe any of this), however I can't see then being in any position to get much for a 30 year old.  There's no doubt he's a very good player, but the MFC is not going to mortgage its future for a player who might only have a year or two remaining, when it's unlikely that we will be flag contenders during Lewis' stay here.  I'd have thought something like our third round pick, or upgrading their second round pick or something like that, but for them that's essentially scrap value for the player who came second in their B&F.  I can't see the MFC coming at anything more for a short term prospect.

They must be bloody desperate for salary cap relief if this is the path they have taken.  Damn shame he's not a FA!

 

Not sure Hawks could claim they're worried about being "low-balled" for an old player with only a year or 2 left, when they essentially accepted pick 88 for Mitchell.

Although, maybe the current supporter backlash for that has changed their opinion. Weak by them really. I think the Lewis move would be good for them even if it's only a 3rd rounder - they need cap space and to re-generate their list. And a guy like Lewis watching Vickery hack it up  in losses on significantly more money will be a ticking time bomb.

I kinda hope he stays...

2 hours ago, Abe said:

hard to tell mate, i'd say unlikely, i was told there was interest and the Hawks weren't one of the clubs mentioned, but this is the silly season. 

i'd have thought more likely to be part of the Hibberd deal, but that's really just a guess.

He won't be part of the Hibberd deal, that will be a 2nd round pick as indicated.

Might be part of a deal to get us another 2nd round pick this year, I think we have that earmarked for something otherwise the EFC/Hibberd deal would already have been done.

My guess is we are looking at a forward/ruck with that pick...total guess based on needs though.

Just now, rjay said:

He won't be part of the Hibberd deal, that will be a 2nd round pick as indicated.

Might be part of a deal to get us another 2nd round pick this year, I think we have that earmarked for something otherwise the EFC/Hibberd deal would already have been done.

My guess is we are looking at a forward/ruck with that pick...total guess based on needs though.

Yeah i agree, i think IF we're even open to trading him it'll be part of trying to get a good pick back in

be nice to have a warrnambool boy at the dees 

32 minutes ago, 1964nowMORE said:

Get him.

imagine Rd 14 next year, we are 7-6 coming off a tight loss at the G and heading to Sydney to play the swans. It's raining. We must win to stay in the 8.

who gets picked from our list for this game before Lewis?

Imagine some of the games this seasons where we were close but no cigar, like the first game against the Hawks. His abilities would have helped us nicely.

What's our salary cap looking like with the additions of Hibberd and Lewis?

And what sort of pick would we be looking at in the trade for Lewis? Surely a third round would suffice..

If the Lewis and Hibberd deals go through we will be basically adding  462 games of experience to the side.

Hibberd. 84,

Lewis. 264, 

Melksham. 114 

that should make a big difference to the consistency of output of the side.

6 minutes ago, hells bells said:

If the Lewis and Hibberd deals go through we will be basically adding  462 games of experience to the side.

Hibberd. 84,

Lewis. 264, 

Melksham. 114 

that should make a big difference to the consistency of output of the side.

In contrast North Melbourne are now -2000 odd games played or whatever it was haha

13 minutes ago, demon191919 said:

What's our salary cap looking like with the additions of Hibberd and Lewis?

And what sort of pick would we be looking at in the trade for Lewis? Surely a third round would suffice..

Additional cap space this year from player departures, especially of Grimes and probably Dawes, both on big $$$.  This year or next year more cap space available from player departures especially of Dunn and probably Lumumba, again both on big $$$.  I would guess those guys add to somewhere close to $1.5m in cap space.

I think our cap will be fine. 

I'd be OK with it if it's for a token pick, like MItchell.

somewhat ironic perhaps, should Lewis play out a few seasons with us he'd be our next 300 gamer. Footy , a funny game

I suspect it will be pick 66 which is a fair deal. Mitchell, whilst a better player, is 1-2 years playing and was first pushed out the door. Lewis will be 2-3 years playing and is not being pushed now that Mitchell is out. Have a look at the hit rate of clubs between 66-75 in the draft and consider the maturity and leadership benefits of a player like Lewis and what Brayshaw, Trac and Oliver alone will learn from him. Then instead of considering him as an ageing star note that he averaged 26 touches and finished 2nd in a finals team B&F whilst we still had Bugg, M Jones, Grimes, Michie, Newton play 33 games combined for us in a relatively injury free year.  

This is without considering that he is a proud player with a point to prove in 2017 who WANTS to come and pull on the red and blue.

Only MFC supporters could whine about this.

Lewis has about 3 years left in footy with him. I feel as though he has been a very durable player, just missed a chunk of games through suspension. Lewis will not only help us win close games, but it also has a domino effect on the rest of the playing group. 

Imagine Viney, Oliver, Petracca feeding and developing their craft further from Lewis. Imagine the other types of players we will be able to land in next year's trade period when a four time premiership player has requested a trade to us. Forget that Lewis is slow, he will be able to provide that cool experienced head they we desperately need. Vince and Jones need leadership support on and off the field. We need this deal to go through if we want to start seeing more wins next year and our younger to players go to the next level. 

Edited October 15, 20169 yr by juzzk1d

A 2nd round draft pick could probably get it done for Lewis ... in my opinion, that's a good/very good result for us considering the drafts are generally grossly overrated.  A 3rd round draft pick (only) would be a gift. 

Forget the Sam Mitchell deal, there are completely different factors at play with that trade.  That 2nd round draft pick that might be required for Lewis might also explain why the Hibberd deal hasn't happened yet.

Lewis is a genuine A grade player who may not end up being as consistently good but will still play a number of stellar games (if he remains fit)  We paid pick 23 for Vince and Lewis is a better player if we were to look at both their career's side by side.  A 2nd round draft pick can offer all sorts of outcomes - often average or worse if the data, facts and truths about draft picks in that area are looked at properly (by the way, pick 14 for Tom Mitchell is an absolute steal for Hawthorn) 

In terms of bargaining power, it helps enormously that Lewis wants to come to our club and it also helps that we can offer him more security (a 3 year deal on good coin)

Edited October 15, 20169 yr by Macca

Not sure if already posted (this thread has escalated in the last day or so!), but the rumour via Quatermain on twitter is we're offering 3 years, it's been agreed to but there's now just back and forth about the actual pick involved.

 

12 minutes ago, stuie said:

Not sure if already posted (this thread has escalated in the last day or so!), but the rumour via Quatermain on twitter is we're offering 3 years, it's been agreed to but there's now just back and forth about the actual pick involved.

 

3 years is a bit. I want Lewis to come to us but if that is true I hope there are some significant trigger clauses; top ten B & F, no. of senior games etc. 

Not sure if this has been posted. Looks like Pickering is trying to get the deal over the line for Lewis. Hawks now digging their heels in or trying to save face.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-jordan-lewis-not-filthy-with-hawthorn-as-contract-talks-continue-20161014-gs304p.html

1 minute ago, fndee said:

3 years is a bit. I want Lewis to come to us but if that is true I hope there are some significant trigger clauses; top ten B & F, no. of senior games etc. 

I imagine similar to Bernie, he had a 2 year + 1 year depending on performance contract I think?

 

Brendan Fevola’s MASSIVE Jordan Lewis News

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/10/brendan-fevolas-massive-jordan-lewis-news

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

I imagine similar to Bernie, he had a 2 year + 1 year depending on performance contract I think?

 

Yes, but you can also complete a level 3 coaching transition course in the final years of your playing career and there is every chance that would be a part of this, allows him to walk straight in as a qualified assistant at a team that should be top 4 ish and complete a level 4 and be in a great position to apply for senior coaaching gigs in the future. 

 

How would Lewis go as a floating half forward or half back in his last year or at least playing certain sections of the game over the next 2 seasons in there? He has a decent leap and set of hands on him If I recall correctly? Seems to plays taller than his 186cm suggests and can crash through packs in unpredictable ways. Would be good to see him running up the ground at crucial moments to influence the contest 

Edited October 15, 20169 yr by DominatrixTyson

What Fev has said is 100% correct.

2 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

What Fev has said is 100% correct.

Fev could have read every word of that on 'Land

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Fev could have read every word of that on 'Land

I think you'll find in this case Pickers and co might be behind the leaks in order to put heat on the Hawks to do the deal, the word getting around about this is so consistent