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2016 Player Review - # 13 Clayton Oliver

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Quite a rap for Clarrie from Garry Lyon:  http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/clayton-oliver-could-eventually-become-melbournes-best-player-says-garry-lyon/news-story/0d90a6a486df68cf7fc2f3834e32e7ac

“Better than (Petracca), better than Hogan and (Angus) Brayshaw and (Jack) Viney."  Garry backs up his comment and has some good reasons.  Nonetheless, I went WOW out loud! 

It will be awesome if his prediction becomes true - simply because the others will also be quite special so to outshine them all will take some doing!

 

 
3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite a rap for Clarrie from Garry Lyon:  http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/clayton-oliver-could-eventually-become-melbournes-best-player-says-garry-lyon/news-story/0d90a6a486df68cf7fc2f3834e32e7ac

“Better than (Petracca), better than Hogan and (Angus) Brayshaw and (Jack) Viney."  Garry backs up his comment and has some good reasons.  Nonetheless, I went WOW out loud! 

It will be awesome if his prediction becomes true - simply because the others will also be quite special so to outshine them all will take some doing!

 

Lyon is spot on.

20 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite a rap for Clarrie from Garry Lyon:  http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/clayton-oliver-could-eventually-become-melbournes-best-player-says-garry-lyon/news-story/0d90a6a486df68cf7fc2f3834e32e7ac

“Better than (Petracca), better than Hogan and (Angus) Brayshaw and (Jack) Viney."  Garry backs up his comment and has some good reasons.  Nonetheless, I went WOW out loud! 

It will be awesome if his prediction becomes true - simply because the others will also be quite special so to outshine them all will take some doing!

 

Better than Viney is very big call.. the others arnt stars yet but if Viney lifts his averages just a little he will be getting close to elite midfielder material and I didnt see any mention of Big Bearded Max! I hope Clarrie's a star but he has a long way to go to get to be number 1.

 
8 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Better than Viney is very big call.. the others arnt stars yet but if Viney lifts his averages just a little he will be getting close to elite midfielder material and I didnt see any mention of Big Bearded Max! I hope Clarrie's a star but he has a long way to go to get to be number 1.

Jack is going to be a very good player, already is. Oliver is going to be on another level if he reaches his potential.

He just has more tricks than Jack and that's not knocking Jack...


21 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

That's a big call from a bloke who felt Mark Neeld would make a good senior coach.

He might be right this time.

I made the slightly OTT remark that he has Brownlow written all over him after a few games.

But I'll stand by it.

Thanks Gary.

Yeah we have good a few young players simmering away and who will turn out the best of them is anyone's guess.

Hunt will go close.  That's my guess.

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

He might be right this time.

I made the slightly OTT remark that he has Brownlow written all over him after a few games.

But I'll stand by it.

Not a bad prediction to stand by, Biff.

 
3 hours ago, rjay said:

Jack is going to be a very good player, already is. Oliver is going to be on another level if he reaches his potential.

He just has more tricks than Jack and that's not knocking Jack...

Agree. Viney, we love for all the hard in and under and gut running. Clarrie does the same but could be even better at the in and under and his dish offs are sublime. Plus Clarrie is a much better kick, we just haven't seen enough of it.

I'm hoping he and Tormund make a fierce partnership this season.


Yes he could be a very special player, has already shown elite inside hands even from his very first game.

I will add however, I still remember G Lyons view that Matthew Bate would eventually be in the Top 50 of the comp.......

Best 1st year player I have ever seen. And im nudging 40. Quickest hands I can remember since diesel williams. Let's hope his commitment matches the talent because I think we have a potential superstar

40 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

Best 1st year player I have ever seen. And im nudging 40. Quickest hands I can remember since diesel williams. Let's hope his commitment matches the talent because I think we have a potential superstar

Bit over the top there.

Watching the hawks replay on YouTube anyone see in the 4th quarter when Clayton took Lewis down? It's happens with about 13.50 remaining on the clock. 


Incredibly good first year considering he wasn't even fit.  Hands and work in close already elite -  can push forward and create a goal -  so, so, so much better than petracca but trac seems to break one tackle and have the commentators drooling

13 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I was nervous but excited that we picked Oliver over Parish at the time.

A season in, that remains my view.

 

Would you trade Oliver for Parish?

8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Would you trade Oliver for Parish?

Right Now? NO! but ask again in 3-4 years time.. both players are super talented either could be better than the other. Like Ron I am nervous about that call but with the rest of our list I'm hoping it will be irrelevant because we will have a super side anyway.

37 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Would you trade Oliver for Parish?

I must admit I was surprised by how good a year Parish had. Averaging 21 disposals across 20 games in your first season in a poor team is pretty bloody impressive. Oliver averaged a tick over 19 possessions over 13 games. Parish had the more consistent first season. I doubt you would find too many bombers supporters who would be willing to do that trade.

Having said that I think most on here would agree that Clayton's ceiling is way higher than Darcy's. He has the ability to eventually control games and on occasions he can do the impossible (that hand off to Stretch against the Hawks). These days you would actually back our footy department in to get him to reach his potential  

Oliver is going to give us supporters a lot of joy over the next decade.

There is no way I would do that trade


4 minutes ago, fndee said:

 I doubt you would find too many bombers supporters who would be willing to do that trade.

That says more about Essendon supporters than anything else.

However, they have always been notoriously arrogant and probably would only accept three first-round draft picks and Jesse Hogan for Jake Long.

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Would you trade Oliver for Parish?

Nope. Parish was probably the percentage pick given his junior credentials and the fact that he is clearly destined to become a very, very good player.

Oliver's upside though is higher IMO. He's an excitement machine. What he brings to the team and to the contest is fantastic, but I see him as being the riskier selection of the two.

That said, Oliver could very well be the next Dangerfield (albeit with some Diesel Williams bits fused into him).

 

12 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Nope. Parish was probably the percentage pick given his junior credentials and the fact that he is clearly destined to become a very, very good player.

Oliver's upside though is higher IMO. He's an excitement machine. What he brings to the team and to the contest is fantastic, but I see him as being the riskier selection of the two.

That said, Oliver could very well be the next Dangerfield (albeit with some Diesel Williams bits fused into him).

 

I definitely wanted the bigger body for big games and finals. you just don't see to many Parish types having big influences on finals. Last year I though Scully was good for GWS who is that type but can't think of too many in the guts. Whereas guys like Kennedy, the Bont, Mitchells, Hannebury were pretty crucial.

 

Essendon will need an Oliver once Jobe finishes in the future.

 
11 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

I definitely wanted the bigger body for big games and finals. you just don't see to many Parish types having big influences on finals. Last year I though Scully was good for GWS who is that type but can't think of too many in the guts. Whereas guys like Kennedy, the Bont, Mitchells, Hannebury were pretty crucial.

 

Essendon will need an Oliver once Jobe finishes in the future.

Big call. I realise what constitutes a "Parish type" is both arguable and subjective, but I would have thought Akermanis and Shaun Burgoyne might be "Parish types" ...and quite good in finals.

Draft position aside, we have a Parish type...Jayden Hunt:cool: 

And, Clarrie gives the team much better balance and he can do things Parish can't.

What's more, Parish went right up the 'opposition players I don't like' scale after his pompous display on kicking his goal against us in round 2 last year. 

So, Clarrie every day of the week.


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