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Posted
Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

Point taken but who do you give up.

Harmes (wouldn't get it.)  Stretch (maybe but it would gut the supporters given the father ...son)... Watts (perhaps but ditto what I said about Stretch) After that it gets even harder.

It belongs in the Hartlett thread but - we'd have to give our 2017 1st rounder.  It's possible ANB could be worked into a deal.  A 3rd club like GC with lots of 2016 first rounders may need to be involved.  It's do-able.

Posted

With the 4 already let go, the Roos will not lose Wells. There would be blood on Arden Street. He will get more money and stay.

Posted
1 minute ago, Redleg said:

With the 4 already let go, the Roos will not lose Wells. There would be blood on Arden Street. He will get more money and stay.

You are of course right Redleg but it's fun to think about it.

The deal will not just be about money... it will be length of offer.... there might be some leverage there for a club willing to take a risk.

By the way.... how do these offers that also include an offer as an assistant coach after retirement work with the salary cap. Seem to be hearing a few of those around this year or am I just imagining it.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Point taken but who do you give up.

Harmes (wouldn't get it.)  Stretch (maybe but it would gut the supporters given the father ...son)... Watts (perhaps but ditto what I said about Stretch) After that it gets even harder.... Tyson perhaps but would that be a net gain.

2017 1st Round Pick to GWS for Pick 15 and fringe player eg James Stewart (in case Hogan seeks a trade).

Then send Pick 15 with someone eg Neal-Bullen to Port for Hartlett.

That's how you get it done.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

2017 1st Round Pick to GWS for Pick 15 and fringe player eg James Stewart (in case Hogan seeks a trade).

Then send Pick 15 with someone eg Neal-Bullen to Port for Hartlett.

That's how you get it done.

Would Port trust us ever again on a player "with potential" trade?

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Posted
1 minute ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Would Port trust us ever again on a player "with potential" trade?

?

Posted
18 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

You are of course right Redleg but it's fun to think about it.

The deal will not just be about money... it will be length of offer.... there might be some leverage there for a club willing to take a risk.

By the way.... how do these offers that also include an offer as an assistant coach after retirement work with the salary cap. Seem to be hearing a few of those around this year or am I just imagining it.

Don't affect salary cap, as not a player when they become a coach.

Posted
5 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Would Port trust us ever again on a player "with potential" trade?

If we had drafted Wines and Toump was there at their pick, they would have picked him. They were happy to get him back for nothing and hope he fired.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

Toump

Ah yes! Buyer beware i guess.....

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Ah yes! Buyer beware i guess.....

I would just think they would want something more substantial than a fringe player that played a handful of unremarkable games and 15.  15 & Garlett/Vandenberg perhaps? I don't know whether that's overs or unders considering Garletts form. 15 or ANB/Michie/Dawes/JKH seems too little. 

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With North's window completely closed (not that it was ever really open), and Brad Scott shafting 4 of his mates, maybe he would be keen to jump ship.

A free hit in terms of not having to trade draft picks, but will obviously take a fair bit of cap space for a year or two.

The exact sort of player we need, and if we think we could get 3 years out of him, then I would go for it. But obviously 3 years is a big ask given his injury history.

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Wells is good enough to take a chance on. 

Those worries about cap space next year, why? All our best players are under 22. We have been over paying our players for years. In 4 years our cap will be an issue certainly not now. 

Just give him the 500 Dawes was on. Or the 400 Dunn and grimes etc are on 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Nasher said:

They can't blame us for that.  Up to them to do their own due diligence.  

Port: "Hey, what's Toumpas like?"

Melb: "He's great, you guys should take him."

Port: "Ok, we're in." 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Nasher said:

They can't blame us for that.  Up to them to do their own due diligence.  

Arrogant sods thought all they had to do was "de-Melbourne" him

Well now he has to be de-Ported. 

Back to Wells - I'd rather not go near him. At his best he's undeniably a jet, one of those rare players who can change the course of a game in a ten minute burst. However his age & injury record should have us steering clear.

Posted (edited)

I'd rather we didn't go down the delisted 30+ yr old ex star route. Bad memories of Neeld and moneyballing.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

No, I'm pretty sure you haven't.

Given you're going into pretty much every trading thread and dropping his name, I certainly get that you want it to happen.

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