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2 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Don't care if this isn't real. This is generating so much laughter and joy in my day at the moment.

 

I'm sure this guy is full of [censored], but if that happens then LOL.

Makes sense too -- a replacement for Mitchell, and they now have pick 14 to offer GC (plus players).

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1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Exactly.  West Coast would be looking at a third round pick going "that's a Dean Kent, or a Mark Hutchings.  Hawthorn shouldn't get shot at a 10 year player *and* salary cap relief so we can get one year out of a player".  

The true compensation for Hawthorn is urgent salary cap relief.  The exchange of picks is just to satisfy the AFL rules for a proper deal.  

But Hawks also need something to offer GCS as a trade for O'Meara. As it stands at the moment, they don't have anything to trade that would satisfy GCS.

Or do they think that O'Meara will do a Luke Ball and put such a high price tag on his head that he'll get to the PSD and only the Hawks will have enough salary cap room?

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Well considering the cards vested parties are willing to play, would something like this work:

Melbourne give up Dunn and 2nd round pick to Brisbane
Melbourne give up 3rd round pick to Hawthorn
Brisbane give up Rockliff to Gold Coast
Hawthorn give up next years first round pick to Gold Coast
Hawthorn give up Lewis to Melbourne
Hawthorn give up 2nd round pick to Gold Coast
GC give up pick 19 or 24 to melbourne
GC give up O'Meara to Hawthorn

* Melbourne give Essendon next years 2nd rounder as 19/24 is to high!

 

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2 hours ago, Nasher said:

Yep, that's the context for my comments.  I don't have your sources but what you said sounded right to me.  

Melbourne fans can probably hold off on the "Essendon are bastards to trade with" calls for a few years after this.  I'm not unhappy though.

...the bastards... bit is ok

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10 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

I'm sure this guy is full of [censored], but if that happens then LOL.

Makes sense too -- a replacement for Mitchell, and they now have pick 14 to offer GC (plus players).

I thought he was too but he's been in the money this morning about gc and other team officials coming to blows last night. Apparently it was a swans official and something to do with swans making play for o'meara.

Swans and Gc been in mediation all morning. He's been all over it. 

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59 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

I'm enjoying developments myself.

Dons on the rack to play ball and trade Hibberd for 2017 2nd Round, Hawks sweating over  2nd B&F player wanting to defect to us, and now Prestia deal with Tigers stalling... 

Seems perfectly poised as we turn for the run home.

Better do these deals in order or else someone could jump in first and gazump us...

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The latest is that Lewis definitely wants out and Dees and Hawks are discussing it as we speak just on SEN now

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58 minutes ago, old dee said:

Interesting I heard a guy on the radio yesterday saying it is starting to look like the MFC  after the 64 Premiership.

From my now fading memory there are some similarities.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

As I mentioned earlier our slide all started when Smith was happy for Barassi to leave for Carlton to learn the coaching caper and later return to replace him. Smith sacked re-instated but the place was never the same even thought to be cursed.

 

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11 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

SEN Just said Lewis wants out and is negotiating with the dees. 

So it continues. 

Awkward considering Hawthorn's list manager Graham Wright literally just said he's staying at the Hawks.

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LEWIS STILL WANTS OUT? 
 
AFL.com.au has been told that Jordan Lewis and his management are still in discussions with the Demons about a trade this afternoon. It's understood the Hawthorn midfielder remains keen to be traded. 
 
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30 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I made this point a few weeks back. If true it is an enormous loophole...... why limit it to coaching.... the job could be anything

Surely you cannot commit to a job after football and it is outside the salary cap.

For example we want to get Garland out of our salary cap so we offer him his existing salary plus a one year sweetener to retire from the MFC list and be an "on field mentor" at Casey. It cannot be that easy.

 

It isn't - Garland's salary would still be counted towards the salary cap for that year, despite no longer being on our list.

If he gets a pay rise when he transitions in to coaching, the club is then paying someone 2-3x the average wage of an assistant coach (which counts towards the coaching department soft cap).

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5 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Awkward considering Hawthorn's list manager Graham Wright literally just said he's staying at the Hawks.

Then apparently at the end of the press conference, when asked about Lewis being in talks with the Dees right now Wright said: "You'd have to ask his manager that"...

 

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32 minutes ago, Akum said:

Or do they think that O'Meara will do a Luke Ball and put such a high price tag on his head that he'll get to the PSD and only the Hawks will have enough salary cap room?

There's a fair rumour that this is exactly what they're planning! Well spotted Akum.

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Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Hawks inner sanctum to see just how this has happened, how can a bloke as loyal as Lewis be chatting to a different club and have the Hawks so clearly annoyed at him wanting to leave despite all reports saying he wants to leave because of what they've said/done.

the same day as a club legend is traded to WCE

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