MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 9

[Thrice 216]

15 minutes ago, Choko said:

I suspect we will play O Mac and not Garland.

To me, Garland is either low on confidence or the game has gone past him.  Every time he gets near it it looks like he is trying to wrestle a bar of soap.

I am a Dunn fan, but I personally love the fact he isn't getting a game.  There are too many things the coaches have been frustrated about with him, and for too long we have had to accept that because there were no better alternatives.  For mine, the fact he hasn't remedied those areas and now will not get a game without doing so will lift standards across the board.

 

We have to trim the list from the 7 on the bench. Garland is named on the field, so won't be dropped.

The 7 on the bench are: Kent, Newton, OMac, Hunt, ANB, Grime, Harmes. Make your selection from that lot

[old dee 22,927]

2 minutes ago, Thrice said:

We have to trim the list from the 7 on the bench. Garland is named on the field, so won't be dropped.

The 7 on the bench are: Kent, Newton, OMac, Hunt, ANB, Grime, Harmes. Make your selection from that lot

Kent, ANB, Grimes and Harmes

[leehow 285]

Can someone tell me how many one on one contests Garland lost last week? I was at the game, but haven't watched a replay yet, so my memory might be playing tricks on me, but I don't remember him being beaten too often.

 

[GoldMember 15]

4 minutes ago, Thrice said:

We have to trim the list from the 7 on the bench. Garland is named on the field, so won't be dropped.

The 7 on the bench are: Kent, Newton, OMac, Hunt, ANB, Grime, Harmes. Make your selection from that lot

Newton Grimes Harmes ANB

Give Kent another week off or maybe they think Harmes is due for a rest...

[BarnDee 286]

we will win this by lots !

[stuie 7,374]

15 minutes ago, leehow said:

Can someone tell me how many one on one contests Garland lost last week? I was at the game, but haven't watched a replay yet, so my memory might be playing tricks on me, but I don't remember him being beaten too often.

 

I've watched the game twice. Didn't see him win a contest too often...

 

[JV7 2,339]

23 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Brisbane hardly have any tall forwards so we decide to bring in another tall defender?

 

Yeah I don't get it either.. I'd rather the extra run from Hunt or Harmes but then again could be a good game for McDonald to play against an undermanned inexperienced side and Mcstay did kick 3 against us in that loss at etihad in 2014 and his back in this week 

Having a look at Brisbanes side this week, it's terrible, you know it's bad when a side has 9 changes. I thought this going into the essendon game but if we don't win this by 10 goals there's something wrong.. These blokes hardly play at the G and are going as bad as you can get and when your replacing almost half a side already missing their skipper, we'd wanna run all over them and win this game convincingly.. Hopefully the players don't have the same attitude as me and the essendon game.

Edited May 20, 2016 by JV7

[leehow 285]

18 minutes ago, stuie said:

I've watched the game twice. Didn't see him win a contest too often...

 

From my memory, when he was in a contest he generally halved it. As I said though, I haven't watched the replay.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

42 minutes ago, leehow said:

Can someone tell me how many one on one contests Garland lost last week? I was at the game, but haven't watched a replay yet, so my memory might be playing tricks on me, but I don't remember him being beaten too often.

 

If a kick is not to the advantage of a forward and the defender is able to make a basic 'spoil', who is given the plaudits? 

The defender? If you believe so, I think you're completely overrating a basic skill that all defenders are expected to execute under those circumstances. All defenders are expected to 'spoil' a ball in that situation at the very least.

I didn't go the game last week. But I did watch the replay and after reading comments about Garland on demonland, I was expecting the worst. Surprisingly however, I didn't think it was a horrible game from him. But it was very much a 'Garland' game. The same story which I've been preaching for a long time. He just floats. Hangs off his opponent. Literally. (Which is evidenced by free kicks against). And provides little to any offensive play. (As evidenced by his 35 metre vertical kicks into the air as well as his blaze away kicking when under any sort of pressure).

We will get better when we find upgrades to these kinds of players.

 

Edited May 20, 2016 by stevethemanjordan

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

45 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Brisbane hardly have any tall forwards so we decide to bring in another tall defender?

 

'In hindsight, we probably went a bit tall in our defensive half'.......

 

 

Nice one Roosy.

[GCDee 3,012]

48 minutes ago, leehow said:

Can someone tell me how many one on one contests Garland lost last week? I was at the game, but haven't watched a replay yet, so my memory might be playing tricks on me, but I don't remember him being beaten too often.

 

Too be honest I didn't see him get to or win any contests... He just looked deflated and defeated.. 

[rjay 23,925]

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Some players don't play well in positions that don't sit them. This is a coaching failure as much as Salems.

I  tip of he was on the wing he would be doing better. 

He played some time on the wing last week 'Gorgoroth'...it didn't help him.

He needs to read the play a lot better, to me he is good with ball in hand but slow to react when it's not.

[1 red eye 1 blue eye 754]

17 minutes ago, BarnDee said:

we will win this by lots !

Until we are consistently top 4, can every wildly optimistic statement posted be auto corrected to add......if we play our best footy eg:-

we will win this by lots if we play our best footy

if we play our best footy we've got this

we will win this by over 100 points if we play our best footy

they are a rabble, we'll hit them so many times they'll think they're surrounded, we'll smash them then murder them, box em up and send their sorry azzes back where they belong if we play our best footy

[Generation dee 1,336]

34 minutes ago, stuie said:

I've watched the game twice. Didn't see him win a contest too often...

 

Redpath destroyed him early. Colin has little confidence at the best of times, when redpath got on top, garland was always going to be reactive the longer the game went on. Some of his bodywork and positioning was worse than schoolboy footy. I'm taking that roos and Co are using the "sustained" run in the team to give him a fair shot, but if you're in the team as a key defender and offer nothing defensively, or offensively for that matter, his stay will be very limited. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, GCDee said:

Too be honest I didn't see him get to or win any contests... He just looked deflated and defeated.. 

Yeah, that's it.  I'm sure the coaching staff saw that too and dropped him.

Oh wait...

[Moonshadow 16,239]

3 hours ago, stuie said:

Lynden Dunn: Dunny had 28 possessions and made several effective tackles. He was really solid for us in defence and was really strong in a lot of one-on-one contests. He came forward in a lot of contests, which we encouraged him to do. He set up a lot of our offensive play, because he kicks the ball well and can get some distance. Dunny put the ball inside 50 five times during the game, which was a really good effort. He competed really well and it was a really solid game for him.

Yeah you're right, let's stick with Garland getting beaten in one on ones and his whopping 9 disposals...

 

Where did I say that we should stick with Garland? Typical stuie putting words into other's mouths.

Did you really expect the club VFL player review to write anything bad about Dunn?

This is from KC from Casey's report:

Casey Scorpions 1.4.10 10.8.69 15.12.102 19.19.133 

Sandringham 7.3.45 9.3.57 13.6.84 16.6.102

Goals

Casey Scorpions Munro T Smith 3 Dawes Hulett Morris Weideman 2 Briggs Neal-Bullen Pattison Spencer Trengove 

Best 

Casey Scorpions Neal-Bullen Munro Newton T Smith Hutchins White

[ArtificialWisdom 3,870]

"Cameron Pedersen is injured and has been withdrawn from the Dees' 25-man squad, withLynden Dunn coming in"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-20/late-mail-live-round-nine

[Demons11 6,404]

Pedersen is out and Dunn comes into the squad 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, ArtificialWisdom said:

"Cameron Pedersen is injured and has been withdrawn from the Dees' 25-man squad, withLynden Dunn coming in"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-20/late-mail-live-round-nine

I wouldn't mind Dunny playing as a forward.

Who is our second ruck, though?

[old dee 22,927]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't mind Dunny playing as a forward.

Who is our second ruck, though?

A very good question.

I have no idea.

Dunn?

[Fat Tony 4,437]

I don't think Dunn is capable of playing the zone defensive structure we are trying to play. He doesn't have the leap or length to play in front of his man, which is a key requirement. Garland isn't the only defender who is struggling and at least he has the athleticism. Only Jetta and Tom McDonald on his good days and maybe Vince are defending well.

[stuie 7,374]

5 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Where did I say that we should stick with Garland? Typical stuie putting words into other's mouths.

Did you really expect the club VFL player review to write anything bad about Dunn?

This is from KC from Casey's report:

Casey Scorpions 1.4.10 10.8.69 15.12.102 19.19.133 

Sandringham 7.3.45 9.3.57 13.6.84 16.6.102

Goals

Casey Scorpions Munro T Smith 3 Dawes Hulett Morris Weideman 2 Briggs Neal-Bullen Pattison Spencer Trengove 

Best 

Casey Scorpions Neal-Bullen Munro Newton T Smith Hutchins White

Lol. So we're going by KC's report rather than our VFL coach? Righto champ... Clutching for straws now.

Dunn is in the squad now btw.

You're becoming a farcical poster whose opinions are decided by wanting to be contrary to me no matter what.

 

[stuie 7,374]

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't mind Dunny playing as a forward.

Who is our second ruck, though?

Seems Dunn is coming in for Pedo's role, so gonna assume he'll be backup ruck?

 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,870]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't mind Dunny playing as a forward.

Who is our second ruck, though?

if he does play forward it would probably have to be him, not gonna play watts or hogan in the ruck. I dont mind him forward either but they may choose to play a small forward line, who knows. I think dunn at HF with his long kick could be pretty good. 

 

[rjay 23,925]

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't mind Dunny playing as a forward.

Who is our second ruck, though?

Maybe Tommy Mc goes forward and takes the 2nd ruck...he's the only one with some ruck experience.