Changes v St Kilda

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

Viney has mentioned the 'F' word in his presser this morning. You'd hope the group has learnt from round 2, and not get ahead of themselves. If not, we could get spanked this week.

We are still a mid-range team, lets not forget that.

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On 4/26/2016 at 9:41 AM, GawnWithTheWind said:

Viney has mentioned the 'F' word in his presser this morning. You'd hope the group has learnt from round 2, and not get ahead of themselves. If not, we could get spanked this week.

We are still a mid-range team, lets not forget that.

I want them mentioning the F word personally, my expectation is this team will play finals, we're good enough. losing to Essendon and North hurts we SHOULD be 5-0

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Just now, Peter Griffen said:

I want them mentioning the F word personally, my expectation is this team will play finals, we're good enough. losing to Essendon and North hurts we SHOULD be 5-0

Always, always, always comes back to bite teams.

In house, expect to win every week. Just don't put any extra pressure on a team who haven't won 3 in a row for 6 years.

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51 minutes ago, stuie said:

Yet he wasn't playing when we lost to Essendon, how much "better" were we that week?

 

As I may not receive an answer...

It's mildly amusing that a seasoned poster needs to be educated to the fact that footy is still won in the midfield.  We had 128 less disposals than Essendon and Gawn, Viney had their worst games.  Others in the engine room were also underwhelming.

But you think Frost not playing was a key factor.  Nice one, Chuckles. 

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49 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

I love Gus, but I am a little frustrated about where his game is at. I know he's taken some knocks and perhaps it's just a case of second year blues, but I was hoping this year he would be able to get more of the ball, because if he does, he becomes a very damaging player. Even 20-25 touches would be enough.

He's first out for mine. Apart from his goal the other night, he wasn't in the play enough (9 disposals) and despite his 5 tackles, he just didn't have an influence. Oliver has dashed past him already, IMO.

He is not playing a role that would allow him to get that much footy regularly.

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Pedersen is required to be back up for Gawn.

Frost is showing a bit more every week but still makes frustrating errors - he is tall but isn't playing a tall role in my opinion. I would prefer Petracca be the one linking up forward of centre wing and being involved in the forward set up that prioritises space to talls that know what they are doing.

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16 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

I want them mentioning the F word personally, my expectation is this team will play finals, we're good enough. losing to Essendon and North hurts we SHOULD be 5-0

Essendon deserved to win that game hands down. They beats us in all aspects of the game.

The Kangaroos game is one that still angers me. We potentially could have been 4-1 with us being the only side to knock off North.

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Just wondering, Salem I thought lacked a bit of physicality on the weekend, brushed off the ball a couple of times, couldn't stick tackles, any one else notice?

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On 4/27/2016 at 10:03 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

Essendon deserved to win that game hands down. They beats us in all aspects of the game.

The Kangaroos game is one that still angers me. We potentially could have been 4-1 with us being the only side to knock off North.

I agree, but there is no denying we didn't bring anything like an AFL attitude or play anywhere near what we have in any other game this year.

Another 30 seconds and we'd be 4-1 imo

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15 minutes ago, ProDee said:

As I may not receive an answer...

It's mildly amusing that a seasoned poster needs to be educated to the fact that footy is still won in the midfield.  We had 128 less disposals than Essendon and Gawn, Viney had their worst games.  Others in the engine room were also underwhelming.

But you think Frost not playing was a key factor.  Nice one, Chuckles. 

You're free to point out where I said we lost because Frost didn't play, or we lost even though the midfield was good, however if you want to use actual evidence of how the team has performed, then we've played better when Frost (and Pedersen) have been part of the structure, it's an actual fact, and as someone who prefers stats rather than watching the game I thought you would be able to grasp that by yourself, evidently I have to hold your hand and lead you down the path.

So to summarize for you, to save you the effort of having to post twice before comprehending once more, you stated dropping Frost would make us a better team, however the evidence does not support you on that, and clearly neither does our coach.

 

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10 minutes ago, loges said:

Just wondering, Salem I thought lacked a bit of physicality on the weekend, brushed off the ball a couple of times, couldn't stick tackles, any one else notice?

Who cares.

Salem is our best kick, and the perfect attacking defender.

He is actually not bad in 1on1s, even in flight.

I love having him in the team, and he doesn't get enough attention for the good things he does.

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Just now, GawnWithTheWind said:

Who cares.

Salem is our best kick, and the perfect attacking defender.

He is actually not bad in 1on1s, even in flight.

I love having him in the team, and he doesn't get enough attention for the good things he does.

My comment wasn't in reference to how good he is, just pointing to an area he may improve.

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On 4/27/2016 at 10:22 AM, GawnWithTheWind said:

Who cares.

Salem is our best kick, and the perfect attacking defender.

He is actually not bad in 1on1s, even in flight.

I love having him in the team, and he doesn't get enough attention for the good things he does.

Disagree, the best attacking defenders still have to defend, Heath Shaw for example is a very good defender, Christian at this stage is not. 

He is however a very good offensive player and a beautiful user of the ball and i suspect playing his position because we really don't have anyone else

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13 hours ago, CityDee said:

Sheesh no Rewoildt Montangna and Roberton for the sainters . 

I have heard that sort of 'optimistic' statement far too many times over far too many years.

Just beat up whoever the opposition send out regardless.

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26 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Essendon deserved to win that game hands down. They beats us in all aspects of the game.

The Kangaroos game is one that still angers me. We potentially could have been 4-1 with us being the only side to knock off North.

Most importantly of all probably being inside their vs our minds.

We went into that game expecting that it would be a walkover, as it should have been.

Bad mindset is a recipe for disaster.  Reminds me of the time ?12 years ago when we were top of the ladder after ?15 rounds....hardly won a game after that.

 

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25 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I have heard that sort of 'optimistic' statement far too many times over far too many years.

Just beat up whoever the opposition send out regardless.

 

I didnt sense optimism, I sensed great dread like I am sure we all feel when this team comes up against an 'easy kill'

 

Edited April 27, 2016 by Petraccattack

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22 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Most importantly of all probably being inside their vs our minds.

We went into that game expecting that it would be a walkover, as it should have been.

Bad mindset is a recipe for disaster.  Reminds me of the time ?12 years ago when we were top of the ladder after ?15 rounds....hardly won a game after that.

 

2004 it was. 

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13 hours ago, daisycutter said:

your opinion or have you got a sauce?

Injury timeframes to be confirmed but all copped serious injuries at the weekend nick an ankle roberton a knee joey a bad hammy 

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47 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I have heard that sort of 'optimistic' statement far too many times over far too many years.

Just beat up whoever the opposition send out regardless.

Agree but it will help 

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Trenners had a glowing match report from the weekend across 4 quaters , no idea who would be dropped and his conditioning expectations but wowee he will be back soon could be a slight chance this week . 

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Dropped briefly into training session this morning. Very light workout, mostly goal kicking practice, in very blustery conditions. 

One thing to report. Dunn was training with the injury group made up of himself, Trenners, Spencer and Dawes, mostly handball practice. Is there anything anyone knows about this. It is the first time I have heard of a question mark over him. Also wondered why Trenners was there given his game at Casey over the weekend.

If he were to be out, who would replace him? Garland is in very ordinary form, and Oscar Mac has only recently returned from injury, although was in the full training session today. We need two talls to cover McCartin and Reiwolt. Maybe we need to put either Frost or Pederson back there. 

Thoughts?

Edited April 27, 2016 by Dees2014

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On 4/27/2016 at 11:35 AM, Dees2014 said:

Dropped briefly into training session this morning. Very light workout, mostly goal kicking practice, in very blustery conditions. 

One thing to report. Dunn was training with the injury group made up of himself, Trenners, Spencer and Dawes, mostly handball practice. Is there anything anyone knows about this. It is the first time I have heard of a question mark over him. 

If he were to be out, who would replace him? Garland is in very ordinary form, and Oscar Mac has only recently returned from injury, although was in the full training session today. We need two talls to cover McCartin and Reiwolt. Maybe we need to put either Frost or Pederson back there. 

Thoughts?

Most likely just on light duties given the short week.

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1 minute ago, Dees2014 said:

Dropped briefly into training session this morning. Very light workout, mostly goal kicking practice, in very blustery conditions. 

One thing to report. Dunn was training with the injury group made up of himself, Trenners, Spencer and Dawes, mostly handball practice. Is there anything anyone knows about this. It is the first time I have heard of a question mark over him. 

If he were to be out, who would replace him? Garland is in very ordinary form, and Oscar Mac has only recently returned from injury, although was in the full training session today. We need two talls to cover McCartin and Reiwolt. Maybe we need to put either Frost or Pederson back there. 

Thoughts?

No information re Dunn but if he misses put Frost back and Petracca up fwd.

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2 hours ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Viney has mentioned the 'F' word in his presser this morning. You'd hope the group has learnt from round 2, and not get ahead of themselves. If not, we could get spanked this week.

We are still a mid-range team, lets not forget that.

Yes, but don't forget with the over-sized (in my opinion) final 8, a mid-range team  is the definition of a team that just qualifies for the finals.

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Just now, sue said:

Yes, but don't forget with the over-sized (in my opinion) final 8, a mid-range team  is the definition of a team that just qualifies for the finals.

Getting in the finals, as glamorous as that is - is just a pass mark for the season with 8 teams making the finals.