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29 minutes ago, loges said:

Yes, and look I understand the knock on him but if he can kick 40+ goals for us he can sit in the goal square all day long. How many forwards kick 40+ goals. Of coarse the risk is will he perform to that level, but at the right price it's worth the gamble.

$200,000 is the lunch money budget for the year. It almost gives someone a 2nd player. 

The Camry Crows are in a world of pain

Kick them while we can

 

Chriiiiist Deees Just get him in!

Why oh why are we ultra conservative Offer NOW!

Lets get some genuine excitment around the place!!

7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Chriiiiist Deees Just get him in!

Why oh why are we ultra conservative Offer NOW!

Lets get some genuine excitment around the place!!

This is exactly why i am not a fan of the long contract. 

They can burn a club so badly.. for years sometimes 

 
22 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Chriiiiist Deees Just get him in!

Why oh why are we ultra conservative Offer NOW!

Lets get some genuine excitment around the place!!

Offer what? Adelaide might be asking for a 2nd rounder for all we know 

2 hours ago, Gawn's Beard said:

Offer what? Adelaide might be asking for a 2nd rounder for all we know 

They just want him out. That’s the whole point. How low will they bargain?


For a cheap price I'd be on board with us getting Jenkins. We didn't have any prolific goal kickers this year and while his form has been off the last 18 months who knows what a change of location could do for him.

I wpuld not be surprise that we get towards the end of the trade period and throw a late pick towards Jenkins.

I think we are trying every alternative (Josh Bruce) and eventually if don't land who we want we'll go for Jenkins last minute.

17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wpuld not be surprise that we get towards the end of the trade period and throw a late pick towards Jenkins.

I think we are trying every alternative (Josh Bruce) and eventually if don't land who we want we'll go for Jenkins last minute.

Nor i. But if we do as you say it will be late you'd think. it is an untenable situation for Jenkins and the Crows and really he will have to go.

The Crows will become increasingly worried they won't be able to trade him so the later in the trade period it goes the more of his salary they might be willing to pay.

 
26 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wpuld not be surprise that we get towards the end of the trade period and throw a late pick towards Jenkins.

I think we are trying every alternative (Josh Bruce) and eventually if don't land who we want we'll go for Jenkins last minute.

For how poor we were at scoring last year, I dont understand why we aren’t trying to lure both over, Jenkins is going to cost the same as JKH or Billy’s contract.  Give Tom and Weid some competition for spots.

itleast Casey will be strong also.


For those who want Jenkins, how do you see our forward six lining up if everyone is fit in Round 1 next year?

I was totally against him but, if he came for next to nothing on a minimum deal, then I could stomach it a little more... but where does he fit?  Who does he keep out of the side?  Do we go with a 31 year old towards the end of his career or stick with the Weid and his development?

Wouldn’t it be nice to have options for different scenarios Wiseblood? If Bruce and/or Jenkins come in and they play well enough to justify a spot it doesn’t really matter who they keep out. The who must get better to overtake them

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

Again I say (I think this was moderated?) if they pay most of his salary or all of it, he's basically a revenue cost centre

Not quite sure what you mean by being a revenue cost centre. 

18 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

For those who want Jenkins, how do you see our forward six lining up if everyone is fit in Round 1 next year?

I was totally against him but, if he came for next to nothing on a minimum deal, then I could stomach it a little more... but where does he fit?  Who does he keep out of the side?  Do we go with a 31 year old towards the end of his career or stick with the Weid and his development?

I'd go something like this;

Tracc T-mac Fritsch

Lockhart Jenkins Melksham

We are still light on for a genuinely exciting small forward, not sure Butler really helps there either.

You need 2 real A-grade KPF's to have a number of good smalls, so we are stuck with Mid-size HFF's filling gaps

I'll also add, the way we tend to dump the ball into the 50 probably suits Jenkins. He'll win plenty of opportunities just out of panic from backmen infringing with his size close to goal.

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2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wpuld not be surprise that we get towards the end of the trade period and throw a late pick towards Jenkins.

I think we are trying every alternative (Josh Bruce) and eventually if don't land who we want we'll go for Jenkins last minute.

You may well be correct @dazzledavey36

Just on that, do you happen to have the whiteboard list of the clubs preferred forwards to be drafted in perchance?


20 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

Yes he would be at that price, No way they are going to pay 600k for a player on someone elses list without a decent draft pick in return.

If they see him as a TFG (camp effected) player and will be toxic to their culture going forward with new coach they sure as hell will move heaven and earth to get a deal done.  If he is offering to take a $400k (total) pay cut they pay $350k and we pay $250k & pick 42 gets it done.

16 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Pick 79??

42 (as per above deal).

Edited by Rusty Nails

1 hour ago, binman said:

Not quite sure what you mean by being a revenue cost centre. 

tongue in cheek, sorry for poor sentence construction, up for 2 hrs with sick child

I mean if we get him cheap enough, he's essentially a revenue stream rather than a cost centre.

Tongue in cheek

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

For those who want Jenkins, how do you see our forward six lining up if everyone is fit in Round 1 next year?

I was totally against him but, if he came for next to nothing on a minimum deal, then I could stomach it a little more... but where does he fit?  Who does he keep out of the side?  Do we go with a 31 year old towards the end of his career or stick with the Weid and his development?

I'm not sure we'll go for either Bruce or Jenkins. We didn't appear to be open to play 3 tall forwards in 2019 so unless things change I can't see the current FD going down this route.

We hope like crazy Tmac stays fit. 

We pray to the old Gods and the new that Weideman blossoms in 2020. 

We bring in junk time Jenkins for insurance purposes. 

18 hours ago, picket fence said:

Chrisssst if we dont take a punt now, We surely are a basket case!

Cmon Dees for once in ur miserable existance of Dud draft picks FCS TAKE A FRIGGEN CHANCE!!

Champagne Gold PF.  You are hitting your best form in the off season though!  Keep something in the tank for 2020 pls.

You do realise such a trade could completely back fire as well?


It really is a no brainer.. he would be paid the minimum wage. He kicks goals, holds a structure as he never leaves the fwd line and while some people only see the negative Joe the goose goals, i tend to just see the goals, and for a team who couldnt kick any last year, then i cant see the downside.

19 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

It really is a no brainer.. he would be paid the minimum wage. He kicks goals, holds a structure as he never leaves the fwd line and while some people only see the negative Joe the goose goals, i tend to just see the goals, and for a team who couldnt kick any last year, then i cant see the downside.

Why has he yet to be linked to anyone of note then? By the sounds of that nearly every club should be falling over each other to get him. This assumption that his contract will cost a packet of Twisties ($200k a year as I recall Jon Ralph claiming) is ludicrous. The Crows arent going to fork out hundreds of thousands per year just to have him on another team's books.

 
12 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Why has he yet to be linked to anyone of note then? By the sounds of that nearly every club should be falling over each other to get him. This assumption that his contract will cost a packet of Twisties ($200k a year as I recall Jon Ralph claiming) is ludicrous. The Crows arent going to fork out hundreds of thousands per year just to have him on another team's books.

They will if he is super unhappy AD.  Toxic to a new coach trying to start afresh with a relatively clean slate.

I don't think he's worth signing at his age. I've watched him really slow down the last few years. He used to have decent 20-50m pace with leads and obviously has the strength in one on one contests but I don't think he's going to come back to the form he showed a few years back.

However it is interesting to see if Melbourne will look to sign another tall forward for depth now that Smith and Keilty are gone. With Frost leaving Petty will move back as a defender.

We have some depth with medium sized marking options in Fritsch, Trac, Melk and Hannan. But in terms of tall forwards it's pretty much McDonald and Weid....

The forward line was our weakest position last year and is looking worse pre trades this year. Tomlinson can float forward in bursts but hasn't shown any consistency there nor is that the position we signed him for. Hopefully we can make at least one move and Joel Smith + Vanders can get healthy to add to that list.

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