The combined Jaeger O'Meara and Dion Prestia Thread

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We've been gunning for Prestia for 2 years at least. He is out of contract next year.  You'd have to have some confidence that the club has got a definitive strategy in place to get him to the club next year.  

[Mach5 4,767]

10 hours ago, Lamashtu said:

According to those rules, we could skip the first round until the 2019 draft. We made two first round selections this year.

Bingo.

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I believe the suns have a number of academy prospects next year, so will likely be a club after points. So us not having a 1st round pick might not be much of an issue.

[old55 23,404]

O'Meara will be at Hawthorn if his body holds up this year - bookmark it.

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4 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

O'Meara will be at Hawthorn if his body holds up this year - bookmark it.

What about Presti??

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

It'll be interesting to see what the Suns do with their captaincy, and whether the result of that has any bearing on Prestia/O'Meara's contract negotiations. 

The Age reported yesterday that they'll likely appoint a co-captain for 2016 (along with Ablett), and Prestia is one of the frontrunners, along with Lynch. My guess is that if he is appointed co-captain, he will re-sign. If he isn't, he'll be in red and blue next year.

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20 hours ago, Frank Grimes said:

Don't see how someone can return to somewhere they're not from

I can't see in that article where it says 'returning to'. It says 'moving to'.

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17 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I would trade out JKH, Watts, 1st round 2017 and 2nd round 2016 for O'Meara. 

And if his knee is stuffed?

[old dee 23,781]

IMO O'Meara is off to the Hawks.

 GCS then face the prospect of loosing their top two midfielders.

They will throw the QLD bank at Prestia to keep him.

There is little chance of either being at the MFC in 2017.

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30 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

I can't see in that article where it says 'returning to'. It says 'moving to'.

The original quote was  "Scoop revealed on Sports Today the Suns had almost accepted the fact O'Meara would be returning to Melbourne " as I posted above, but they must have changed it since

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On 8/12/2015 at 0:44 AM, Curry & Beer said:

one year until these articles are about Hogan

 

I might be a one-eyed Dees supporter, but I think we have the best 'young' list in the competition. Hogan would be silly to leave IMO. If you look at Freo's list, its going to at the very least stagnate over the next 5 years. Even with Hogan, they'd still have to replace Pavlich, Mundy, Sandilands, McPharlin, Johnson, Crowley, Barlow and Pearce. Even with those players I don't think Freo are in the window anymore.

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2 hours ago, mauriesy said:

I can't see in that article where it says 'returning to'. It says 'moving to'.

Must have been edited. I certainly read "returning"

[JV7 2,350]

Have it on good authority Prestia will be returning home... Possibly David swallow also 

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1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

 

I might be a one-eyed Dees supporter, but I think we have the best 'young' list in the competition. Hogan would be silly to leave IMO. If you look at Freo's list, its going to at the very least stagnate over the next 5 years. Even with Hogan, they'd still have to replace Pavlich, Mundy, Sandilands, McPharlin, Johnson, Crowley, Barlow and Pearce. Even with those players I don't think Freo are in the window anymore.

we're obviously discussing something that has already been discussed ad nauseam BUT the 'young talent/promising future' is only one aspect of the decision. We are still yet to prove this anyway, as we have stockpiled talent in recent history to watch it fail miserably. The big one is money - what can others engineer to snatch him the way Carlton did with Judd and the Swans did with Franklin. The other is the 'family reason', or geographical line that gets trotted out IMO to cover the REAL reason which is the aforementioned financial one. If being home at Freo isn't a concern, we have the advantage of being in the best city to live in Australia, and the capital of footy, but so do 8 others. We are also one of the few that gets to play at the mighty G. In summary I'm saying that there are a lot of factors involved and the apparent talent we have IMO is not that big a piece of the puzzle. I've already come to terms with possibility that we get burned - but we know that if this happens we will be very well compensated for it and you never know if keeping or losing the Hulk will actually be a positive or negative in the end. If we hadn't got stiffed by Scully and Frawley we wouldn't even have Hogan or Brayshaw, which is something to think about.

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19 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

we're obviously discussing something that has already been discussed ad nauseam BUT the 'young talent/promising future' is only one aspect of the decision. We are still yet to prove this anyway, as we have stockpiled talent in recent history to watch it fail miserably. The big one is money - what can others engineer to snatch him the way Carlton did with Judd and the Swans did with Franklin. The other is the 'family reason', or geographical line that gets trotted out IMO to cover the REAL reason which is the aforementioned financial one. If being home at Freo isn't a concern, we have the advantage of being in the best city to live in Australia, and the capital of footy, but so do 8 others. We are also one of the few that gets to play at the mighty G. In summary I'm saying that there are a lot of factors involved and the apparent talent we have IMO is not that big a piece of the puzzle. I've already come to terms with possibility that we get burned - but we know that if this happens we will be very well compensated for it and you never know if keeping or losing the Hulk will actually be a positive or negative in the end. If we hadn't got stiffed by Scully and Frawley we wouldn't even have Hogan or Brayshaw, which is something to think about.

He isn't exactly going to jump ship to another Vic club - that just doesn't happen. If he leaves it will be back to WA, and we should be able to match those offers. So I doubt it would be money related, but agree it would be homesickness if anything.

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5 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

He isn't exactly going to jump ship to another Vic club - that just doesn't happen. If he leaves it will be back to WA, and we should be able to match those offers. So I doubt it would be money related, but agree it would be homesickness if anything.

What? Just this year: Henderson, Suckling, Melksham, Anderson, Howe, Kennedy, Carlisle, Fitzpatrick and Yarran  all went from one Vic club to another.

..and how can you doubt the importance of money, do you think any of the big name recruits of the last decade didn't end up better off financially at their destination than they would have if they had stayed? Dangerfield might be the exception, but I'm still waiting to find out what sneaky procedure is in place for the cats to give him his gold house and rocket car

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19 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

What? Just this year: Henderson, Suckling, Melksham, Anderson, Howe, Kennedy, Carlisle, Fitzpatrick and Yarran  all went from one Vic club to another.

..and how can you doubt the importance of money, do you think any of the big name recruits of the last decade didn't end up better off financially at their destination than they would have if they had stayed? Dangerfield might be the exception, but I'm still waiting to find out what sneaky procedure is in place for the cats to give him his gold house and rocket car

Wasn't Henderson a FA? Suckling a FA? Melksham and Carlisle rare cases - for obvious reasons. Kennedy and Fitzpatrick left due to lack of opportunity. Yarran basically thrown out. How are these players even remotely comparative to Jesse Hogan?

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8 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Wasn't Henderson a FA? Suckling a FA? Melksham and Carlisle rare cases - for obvious reasons. Kennedy and Fitzpatrick left due to lack of opportunity. Yarran basically thrown out. How are these players even remotely comparative to Jesse Hogan?

But I don't understand your point, why are we 'safe' from the other Vic clubs poaching him, what is the factor I'm missing?

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19 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

But I don't understand your point, why are we 'safe' from the other Vic clubs poaching him, what is the factor I'm missing?

The players you mentioned were either FA, players lacking opportunity or players facing the prospect of a drug ban. Can you name a player the quality of Hogan and in a similar position at his age - that got poached by another Vic club.

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4 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

The players you mentioned were either FA, players lacking opportunity or players facing the prospect of a drug ban. Can you name a player the quality of Hogan and in a similar position at his age - that got poached by another Vic club.

but again, what are you claiming is the REASON for this

weve only looked at one year BTW

Edited December 9, 2015 by Curry & Beer

[KingDingAling 3,752]

19 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

but again, what are you claiming is the REASON for this

weve only looked at one year BTW

Are you drinking?

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I haven't got a whole lot of interest in either of them.

Trading our "2017 first round draft pick" for another club's first rounder in 2016 would be my preference.

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15 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Are you drinking?

I am actually, but that has nothing to do with the fact you have been unable to substantiate your argument in any way.

One more time: What is the reason why one of the other Vic clubs won't be the ones that snatch Hogan?

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19 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

I am actually, but that has nothing to do with the fact you have been unable to substantiate your argument in any way.

One more time: What is the reason why one of the other Vic clubs won't be the ones that snatch Hogan?

Why would Hogan leave MFC for another Vic club? That is a harder question to answer. He won't, it simply doesn't happen. I asked you to name another player in Hogan's position that it happened to and you thrown up FA's, fringe players and reformed drug addicts. Jesse Hogan is a budding young superstar, he has developed friendships at the MFC and started his career here, on top of that we can afford to pay him a top dollar, he isn't going to jump ship to another Vic club.

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4 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Why would Hogan leave MFC for another Vic club? That is a harder question to answer. He won't, it simply doesn't happen. I asked you to name another player in Hogan's position that it happened to and you thrown up FA's, fringe players and reformed drug addicts. Jesse Hogan is a budding young superstar, he has developed friendships at the MFC and started his career here, on top of that we can afford to pay him a top dollar, he isn't going to jump ship to another Vic club.

Gary Ablett Sr. That enough of a star for you?