Kieren Collins

[Redleg 42,039]

I could see GC taking him at 6, but would be staggered if we took him at 7. GC clearly have a player in mind who they knew will slide past 3 to 6. Parish, Francis, Curnow and Weideman could all potentially go at 3,4,5. We may know who that player is, hence we were desperate to get pick 7, knowing one of the four mentioned would still be available.

That is the hope.

[mo64 5,886]

Neita made a pretty good fist of it.

You're going back 20-25 years to find one, but Neitz was a forward as a junior. We had some talented forwards in Lyon and Schwarz, hence Neitz started at CHB.

[monoccular 17,697]

He isnt going at pick 3 or 7, and we aren't in desperate need of key defender. So unless he slips to our third pick, he isnt coming to the MFC.

Having said that he has a ridiculously large frame for a 17 year old. Some team is gonna be very happy to draft him.

The only way he would remotely come in to our consideration would be if it has been decided to play Tommy M as a tall forward. He was recruited as such, I believe. Seems unlikely though, and he will not go through to our now high 30s pick.

Looks a brute though. Not a Cale type!

[Dinosaur Rover 197]

I dont want tommy mac as a forward

He cant kick

It is one thing to take marks in defence another when tagged or leading

[Yossarian 1,820]

Two people whose opinion about underage footy I rate and respect.

If only those with 1/1000th as much knowledge weren't so vociferous in their beliefs based on a couple of YouTube highlight videos.

Fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.

Probs didn't need to quote the whole post though.

[Members' Wing 1,106]

Fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.

Probs didn't need to quote the whole post though.

Fair call x 2

[Neitz the Great 555]

Neita made a pretty good fist of it.

Add Pavlich to that list, won an AA as a FB

[Gator 18,009]

You don't see many players that look idiot proof when it comes to drafting.

This guy is idiot proof.

[H_T 3,049]

Impressive.

[Redleg 42,039]

Got a friend who has a son who played on Collins this year. Says he is a fantastic footballer, who crashes packs and can play forward or back. Said whoever gets him will be happy.

Also said Weideman plays a bit like Carey, running back with the flight of the ball to take marks. Kicked 5 in a quarter in an AIS game. Several clubs very interested.

On what I have seen, which is very limited and am being told, if we miss out on Curnow, Weideman and Francis, Collins could be a great get. Still only 17.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Redleg

[ChaserJ 5,189]

Got a friend who has a son who played on Collins this year. Says he is a fantastic footballer, who crashes packs and can play forward or back. Said whoever gets him will be happy.

Also said Weideman plays a bit like Carey, running back with the flight of the ball to take marks. Kicked 5 in a quarter in an AIS game. Several clubs very interested.

On what I have seen, which is very limited and am being told, if we miss out on Curnow, Weideman and Francis, Collins could be a great get. Still only 17.

Thanks Redleg.

Feedback I've gotten is that Weideman could become a Pavlich clone and if he hadn't been injured he might have been ahead of Schache as the best kpf.

Injury is a slight worry with him.

[manny100 1,621]

Buckenara rates Collins at pick 3. He has 6 talls in his top 10 because they are so hard to get. Rates his footy smarts. I would not be surprised to see GC pick him at 6. They could do with another KPB. If we took Weideman at 3 I would also not be surprised to see the Dons take Curnow (KPF/3rd tall/mId) and Collins as a KPB. They have lost Fletcher and Carlisle and they know they will be down again next year in a good mids draft. If Weideman and Collins are picked up in the top 6 then one of Parish, Curnow or Francis will likely slip to 7.

[MadAsHell 4,217]

Buckenara rates Collins at pick 3. He has 6 talls in his top 10 because they are so hard to get. Rates his footy smarts. I would not be surprised to see GC pick him at 6. They could do with another KPB. If we took Weideman at 3 I would also not be surprised to see the Dons take Curnow (KPF/3rd tall/mId) and Collins as a KPB. They have lost Fletcher and Carlisle and they know they will be down again next year in a good mids draft. If Weideman and Collins are picked up in the top 6 then one of Parish, Curnow or Francis will likely slip to 7.

If there's one thing that can be guaranteed in this draft, it's that Parish wont drift any further then Pick 5 (Essendrug's 2nd pick).

[H_T 3,049]

Got a friend who has a son who played on Collins this year. Says he is a fantastic footballer, who crashes packs and can play forward or back. Said whoever gets him will be happy.

Also said Weideman plays a bit like Carey, running back with the flight of the ball to take marks. Kicked 5 in a quarter in an AIS game. Several clubs very interested.

On what I have seen, which is very limited and am being told, if we miss out on Curnow, Weideman and Francis, Collins could be a great get. Still only 17.

Like what you've described that he can play forward. As I've already stated on this thread, Collins looks impressive. But also confident, strong, agile, efficient. A Parish, Collins combination would be a good result I believe. With the likes of Curnow, Weideman & Francis also looking very handy, I'm ecstatic with picks 3,7 in the keeping.

[spirit of norm smith 16,651]

Likely pick 12-20. Not worth our pick 7 as we have tall defenders

[mo64 5,886]

Like what you've described that he can play forward. As I've already stated on this thread, Collins looks impressive. But also confident, strong, agile, efficient. A Parish, Collins combination would be a good result I believe. With the likes of Curnow, Weideman & Francis also looking very handy, I'm ecstatic with picks 3,7 in the keeping.

TBO, this is the most thrown away line around this time of year. The 2 most critical roles in football are inside mids and key position forwards. And we need both. I don't want to draft players at 3 and 7 purely based on speculation that they CAN play these roles. If Collins is good enough to be an elite KPF, he would be starting there every week as a junior, not at FB or CHB. The same thing is being said about Francis as a forward and mid.

A pass for me.

[Ted Lasso 19,564]

His kicking really impresses me, he's got the skills of a quality half back but can play on power forwards.

[hells bells 2,023]

As Redleg has noted he is still 17, after checking the ages he is nearly 12 months younger than Curnow.

I think he will be in serious contention for our pick 7

[H_T 3,049]

TBO, this is the most thrown away line around this time of year. The 2 most critical roles in football are inside mids and key position forwards. And we need both. I don't want to draft players at 3 and 7 purely based on speculation that they CAN play these roles. If Collins is good enough to be an elite KPF, he would be starting there every week as a junior, not at FB or CHB. The same thing is being said about Francis as a forward and mid.

A pass for me.

Duly noted.

I'm just not sure it's "based purely on speculation" though given it's come from an opponent who has seen him play both ends of the ground.

If there is another David Neitz-like player out there, I'd want to take a pretty good look before passing.