We missed Ollie Wines, let's not make the same mistake.

Imagine this kid in the centre square, will cause explosions with Viney for the next 10 years. Much better prospect then Curnow in my opinion. By far

So, ollsik, is this your final bid?

i know. But Parish has been elite in the TAC cup for two years now. Oliver, has popped up mid year.

These are kids, they all develop at different rates. All that that says is that Parish came on earlier than others. It doesn't say anything at all about his ceiling, or what will happen 4+ years down the track. You only have to look at some of our own recent recruits for verification.

Would be happy with either of them. Or even both.

He looks like a canteen lady.

You may not be able to make a proper evaluation from watching highlights videos, but anyone that dedicated to a Facebook thread about themselves gets my nod of approval.

Have a look at who the recruiters have picked up in the last couple of drafts.

Our TOP 10 picks have all been over 183 cm and over 80 kgs. Brayshaw, Pettracca, Salem

There is a pattern here and I cant see them breaking this.

Roos wants big bodied tall mids and thats exactly what we will get. Parish is out of the picture.

That's the worst analysis/conclusion reaching I've ever read. Brayshaw and Petracca were unanimous top 3 picks. I doubt that Roos' philosophy swayed Taylor one iota.

WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER

WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER

So when Oliver is selected tonight, you going to give yourself a jolly good flogging or three.

I almost want us to not select Oliver just to see Olisik's reaction.

I almost want us to not select Oliver just to see Olisik's reaction.

Haha that would be great....

So when Oliver is selected tonight, you going to give yourself a jolly good flogging or three.

There won't be any ears left on it.

My only issue with us selecting Clayton Oliver, is that I'll forever wonder if his parents mucked up filling in the birth registry paperwork and that his name should really be Oliver Clayton.

What gives me the [censored] is our club hasn't leaked one little bit of info.

I want the old Melbourne back where Motor Mouth Connolly would open up with, tonight we will pick Jordon Gysberts, I assure you he will be better than our priority pick and pick one in a couple of years.

I want those leaks NOT!

test post. please disregard.

far too zen for this thread!

Would have been much more fun if Demonland had posted "Please ignore previous post" instead of "test post. please disregard."

What gives me the [censored] is our club hasn't leaked one little bit of info.

I want the old Melbourne back where Motor Mouth Connolly would open up with, tonight we will pick Jordon Gysberts, I assure you he will be better than our priority pick and pick one in a couple of years.

I want those leaks NOT!

Did he really say that?

Agree. I would have been happy to go with Parish and Mathieson to get a good mix of midfield talent with 4 AAs between them.

I wonder if the reluctance to pick Parish has to do with the nightmares endured in the wake of the decision to take Toumpas ahead of Wines three years ago.

im wondering if it more the trend of inside, strongly built mids being a safer bet with a high pick. Guys like Toump, O'rourke, Aish that are elite users of the ball and that killed it in the juniors just dont seem to have as good as strike rate as the more inside bigger guys - Brayshaw, Wines etc. not saying it is that cut and dry but it may be a trend.

all about risk and reward I guess. we would have argued in 2012 that Wines will have a impact straight away but his ceiling is not very high. but these days you dont need too many elites users of the ball - once you can kick well, its all about the stoppages

Depends what you mean by elite user? I think the last few years has shown us that poor disposal in today's game kills you on the rebound. I also think elite decision making is a key component of the modern game and this could be part of being an elite user.

Oliver's TAC season courtesy of champion data's twitter.

Ranking points are equal to supercoach points.

Personally, not sold on oliver at pick 3 as it seems a stretch, however; if the club see something and pick him at 3 I'll get around him like any other player.

The good news on those ranking points is they were both trending up and also very consistent after the first 2 rounds when he was presumably getting some match fitness after missing some preseason.

That finish to the year is super impressive, as is the off the charts game which I presume was the game he kicked 6.

The good news on those ranking points is they were both trending up and also very consistent after the first 2 rounds when he was presumably getting some match fitness after missing some preseason.

That finish to the year is super impressive, as is the off the charts game which I presume was the game he kicked 6.

What is also amazing is that in his clip for AFL draft picks, he mentions he has just 1 vote in the Morrish Medal at Round 9.

Olisk is going to lose his [censored] if we select Parish at 3

I still feel we will pick up Parish over Oliver though as he is more of what we need, and has a longer more consistent body of work.

Edited November 23, 201510 yr by DeeZee

If we take Oliver I'll be a bit smug because as soon as I saw his highlights (I know it's hard to read a lot into them) I rated him highly.

Drafting someone like Oliver is less of a risk than Parish. I feel given the state of us needing to draft competitors and bringing in tall big bodied mids, we will go with Clayton.

Drafting someone like Oliver is less of a risk than Parish. I feel given the state of us needing to draft competitors and bringing in tall big bodied mids, we will go with Clayton.

This is the argument im most keen on exploring...

Positionally, inside mids do have a much easier transition to AFL football and the bigger bodies are suiting the direction of the modern game more. That said, Parish is an inside mid, so its hard to say that his game would not translate to AFL level with multiple mids being around his height too.

Secondly, Oliver can be seen as more of a risk due to already having OP issues, not having played the carnival either years when compared to an injury free player who was all Australian both years. What are the relative odds of success from a player who did not actually play the carnival or reach all australian status relative to the other?

Its interesting to think about, either way il be happy!

Drafting someone like Oliver is less of a risk than Parish. I feel given the state of us needing to draft competitors and bringing in tall big bodied mids, we will go with Clayton.

Yes - but I wouldn't mind a player that could kick the freaking ball accurately. He would feel out of place, but he might be useful

Good article on Oliver here.

States how we met him at his home after the draft camp and that we were a lot nicer club to talk to than Essendon who ripped into him.

What a bunch of flogs!

Suck on these apples Essenscum.-

Melbourne considers Clayton Oliver with first pick: Plays like Ollie Wines