Garland re-signed yesterday. not sure of terms.

I hope they play him forward then, because he offers very little at the back.

I don't understand why, but is there any player on our list more polarising than Garland?

People have strong views on Watts and Toumpas, but with Garland people seem to either think he's an underrated superstar, or an overrated VFL hack. There really doesn't appear to be much in between.

Personally, I fall into the 'overrated' category. I don't think he's that talented really, but that to one side I cannot stand his attitude, lack of leadership and body language on the field. For someone who, whether he likes it or not, needs to be a leader of the club, he is failing big time, and that is the main reason I wouldn't mind moving him on.

Don't believe I have ever read that on Demonland.

I'm on the keep him bandwagon (amazingly close poll at this stage) but has it actually been confirmed he has been signed? I have seen nothing official.

With Howe going, Garland provides depth and a senior body down back. I'm happy enough for him to have another contract, but hope he is challenged for his position over the next season or so.

Hopefully Mitch White can start to take over in the next year or so.

We could stand to recruit another medium defender who can contribute offensively.

With Howe going, Garland provides depth and a senior body down back. I'm happy enough for him to have another contract, but hope he is challenged for his position over the next season or so.

Hopefully Mitch White can start to take over in the next year or so.

We could stand to recruit another medium defender who can contribute offensively.

Fair point there Chaser. I think we would all agree that something we haven't had enough of is competition for spots. We are getting better, slowly, in this area but if we can improve it again further next year then it can only be a positive thing for us going forward.

Yeah, people are kidding themselves if they didn't think we'd miss Howe AND Garland over the one off-season. Howe's clearly out the door so I'm happy to hear Garland's staying. He's been a loyal clubman through tough times, and he's one of the core group of long-suffering players who deserve success.

Yeah, people are kidding themselves if they didn't think we'd miss Howe AND Garland over the one off-season. Howe's clearly out the door so I'm happy to hear Garland's staying. He's been a loyal clubman through tough times, and he's one of the core group of long-suffering players who deserve success.

I reckon I'll vomit if I hear that again....

So poor, these long-suffering AFL footballers.... What a tough life Garland must have.

Give me a [censored] break.

If he signs on that is good news. Definitely not a world beater but every side needs depth.

Did he make a meaningful contribution yesterday?

I thought he was 'meh' again.

Yesterday's game typified and exemplified exactly the problem that I outlined in the opening post. A group of problematic players.

Who set the tone early yesterday? We were 'lead' by Viney, Hogan, Salem, Brayshaw yesterday simply in the way that they wanted to play the game. Jones and Vince were on- board also.

These are the guys that are dragging the club out of the mire.

Yesterday I again witnessed efforts from Garland and Dunn that just had me baffled.

I'll be gob-smacked if Garland stays.

Dermie rates him and praised him publicly garlo to the hawks to replace lake

If he signs on that is good news. Definitely not a world beater but every side needs depth.

The problem is that Roos keeps playing him without considering that we might be a better team with a more attacking backline.

He was actually quite good yestetday i have to admit.

Expecting a big year next year.

Did he make a meaningful contribution yesterday?

I thought he was 'meh' again.

Yesterday's game typified and exemplified exactly the problem that I outlined in the opening post. A group of problematic players.

Who set the tone early yesterday? We were 'lead' by Viney, Hogan, Salem, Brayshaw yesterday simply in the way that they wanted to play the game. Jones and Vince were on- board also.

These are the guys that are dragging the club out of the mire.

Yesterday I again witnessed efforts from Garland and Dunn that just had me baffled.

I'll be gob-smacked if Garland stays.

A couple of ordinary kicks, at least one marking contest where he stayed down when he should've gone up but otherwise some pretty solid efforts. Read the play pretty well. Set up young Mitch White and Oscar McDonald in good spots for them to impact. Likely played a high TOG percentage as well.

If we are trading Howe and can't get good FA compensation from Garland then it's a no brainer to keep him on a 1 or 2 year incentive based deal.

Oscar Mc and Frost might be the future alongside Tom McDonald in our backline but if we get rid of the competition and depth that Dunn and Garland provide then those youngsters (especially given Frost's injury status this year) have to do a lot in a hurry.

Garland re-signed yesterday. not sure of terms.

Source??

The problem is that Roos keeps playing him without considering that we might be a better team with a more attacking backline.

The attacking Howe has played half back most of the year. Salem has when fit. Stretch played half back. I'm not sure why Lumumba was getting a game all year but it certainly wasn't his defensive work. It might've taken a while but eventually young Oscar Mc and White got a chance. Frost has been injured all year and Terlich is Terlich.

I'm not sure who everyone thinks Garland should've been dropped for?

I'd love to have played Vince more at half back but he was our best mid and with Tyson battling injuries, Vanders injured, Brayshaw tired, Michie and Newton not coming on quickly we didn't have that luxury.

You can go around in circles all you want and eventually what you find is that the 22 who played round 1 for us plus Bernie Vince was probably our best team. Stretch, ANB, Harmes, Oscar Mc and Mitch White all put their names up during the year but that's how development is meant to work.

Source??

As if.

Garland re-signed yesterday. not sure of terms.

This would please me greatly.

I hope he stays. Offers more than Howe.

Source??

Chook in Perth has plenty of runs on the board.

I believe him.

How was Garlands year as a whole? That's what the coaches are looking at. Not a round 23 dead rubber.

_{I would love garland to find his form again and play the way he did a couple years ago. At the moment like a lot of the team his disposal and decision making can be poor resulting in turnovers. I prey he recaptures his form if his staying.}

How was Garlands year as a whole? That's what the coaches are looking at. Not a round 23 dead rubber.

In the mid season review Roos had him as the most consistent player. Not alot changed in the second half. Garland has played in the backline on smalls, talls and resting mids in the worst side of the last decade. He can hold his head high over that time. You can't have a team off 22 leaders so I can't understand why lack of "leadership" is being held against him.

I'll be very surprised if Garland wants to leave or if Melbourne want to offload him. Expect him to be in our best 22 next year.

At his best (which was a couple of years back), Garlo was a stout defender amidst a fairly ordinary lot. He rarely (if ever) provided run or drive out of defense, and that's a quality which is paramount in today's game. If he is indeed on our list in 2016, I hope that his spot in our best 22 is quickly assumed by someone who has a strong defensive mind set, but can just as easily turn defense into attack through a combination of pace, quality disposal and excellent decision making and awareness with ball in hand. Garlo is barely average in these areas imo..

He took the game on more under Neeld than he does now.

One of the only ones that played better under him than Roos.

I though his season was average

Glad he has re-signed though.

He took the game on more under Neeld than he does now.

One of the only ones that played better under him than Roos.

I though his season was average

Glad he has re-signed though.

Confirmed?

Confirmed?

Only as much as Buddy becoming a woman as far as I know.