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39 minutes ago, Django said:

I think that latest one doesn't really say anything that isn't true. In fact, it's fairly well balanced. Viney should consider himself lucky he only got one week.

You think it's well balanced? I've seen jumper punches with more force. 

Only on Monday, one was found guilty of murder. No, the scale is not nearly the same, and yes, the rules are different on the football ground. But they are not suspended altogether. By ever so few degrees, the sight of one footballer belting another in the head legitimises the act more broadly.
 

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    It's never good to lose a player of Jack's importance, but I disagree in relation to the timing. I think the timing of the injury may not be as bad as it could've been. 

    In the next month, we have the bye, Hawks, Swans (SCG) and Pies. With the bye he misses only three games instead of four. You would also think we'd be fairly long odds to beat the Hawks and Swans even with Viney.

    So for me he is only missing one 50-50 game (Pies) when it could've been four. And the Pies have their fair share of injuries as well. 

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    3 hours ago, dees189227 said:

    They also said on 7 that Garland may miss 2 or 3 with his cheekbone. 

     

    Dees by 10 goals.

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    2 hours ago, Night Crawler said:

    Did Viney make Greg Baum cry at some point? He has written another article about him. 

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-heads-you-lose-but-jack-viney-gets-off-lightly-20160530-gp7k25.html

    He wrote this article when Viney got off after the Lynch incident last year.

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/viney-bump-was-out-of-time-20140509-zr7gd.html

    I see Rancid's pathetic cheap shot on Watts has been forgotten. Only the fact that Viney 'attacked' him remains.

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    6 hours ago, ProDee said:

    Nah mate, I remember it happening.  Viney was already walking off.  It was byplay between two friends.  There was no "helping" about it. 

    Ok. Can't argue as I haven't seen the game yet as away. Just looked at the photo. 

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    I really felt like Baum lost the plot with citing the Rance incident, and it is also key for me that Viney is front on, not a dirty sniper. The only thing I'm sad about is that he didn't hold the jumper, not smart, but cut lunches he is throwing, or palms shall we say are different to a king hit merchant.

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    7 hours ago, Scoop Junior said:

    It's never good to lose a player of Jack's importance, but I disagree in relation to the timing. I think the timing of the injury may not be as bad as it could've been. 

    In the next month, we have the bye, Hawks, Swans (SCG) and Pies. With the bye he misses only three games instead of four. You would also think we'd be fairly long odds to beat the Hawks and Swans even with Viney.

    So for me he is only missing one 50-50 game (Pies) when it could've been four. And the Pies have their fair share of injuries as well. 

    Scoop, the dees website is saying he'll miss 3-4 matches, not weeks. My read on this is he may not be right the week after the bye. Another way of saying 4-6 weeks.

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    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    Good story > facts

    I bet this myth carries on for years now. Sigh.

    Is there proof of when he did the injury? First I remember seeing it was after he hit Ebert.

    Not saying there isnt but if the club is ssying it not sure id believe it.

    #conspiracies

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    Wait. The reporting and the responses on here re. the timing and circumstances of Viney's injury are all over the shop. AFL article says he hit Ebert in the third which is not true. Mahoney says Viney injured his hand early in the first. Someone said in a tweet it was just before the Ebert incident which was late in the first. And the footage showed attention to Viney's hand after the incident with Ebert. I'm not looking to call anyone a [censored] but just want to understand the truth of what happened. I know the boy is tough, but if he had popped a knuckle early, it's odd that he's then throwing punches with it not too long after. And would it be fair then to conclude he at least aggravated it with Ebert?

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    After the game Ebert didn't have any swelling let alone a bruise. If Viney broke his knuckle punching Ebert to the face, Ebert would have had swelling and brushing straight away.

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    3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    After the game Ebert didn't have any swelling let alone a bruise. If Viney broke his knuckle punching Ebert to the face, Ebert would have had swelling and brushing straight away.

     

    Not if when slapping him he hit him at an awkward angle. I just find it "convenient " that it happened "prior" to the punches. But then again i love a good conspiracy theory :)

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    It's just laughable to suggest he broke fingers slapping Ebert in the face when Ebert didn't have so much as a red cheek.  I once punched a wall with a fair bit of force (not full force) and had some minor bruising of my knuckles. The only time I've ever seen anyone break fingers by punching someone, the recipient of the punch got totally flattened.

    Come on guys, it's just silly.  We're just fueling our need for conspiracy theories against all common sense by running with this one.  

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    It's funny you should say that. I split my index knuckle hitting someone playing in a match of footy. It was the last time I did either of those things. But the guy was unmarked. My throw was off and he ducked slightly and I caught some solid bone around the top off his head. I don't actually care if that's how Jack did it, but that the reporting seems a bit strange. Anyways, I'll move on.

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    He's a smart kid Jack. So just to be silly and add more weight to conspiracy, I'll say he injured it early first qtr, realised how serious it was, knew that he would miss weeks and require surgery; (ruin any hope of a Brownlow). And when push came to shove, he thought stuff it...I'll give Ebert a few love taps just for kicks and see if I can stir my boys up and pull their finger out, at the same time send a warning out - you want to rough us up?... Here cop this.

    Sounds fair.

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    9 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

    Not if when slapping him he hit him at an awkward angle. I just find it "convenient " that it happened "prior" to the punches. But then again i love a good conspiracy theory :)

    Perhaps he did break it prior to punching Ebert. He knew it was broken and would miss a few games so he decided to show Ebert a bit of love.

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    58 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Perhaps he did break it prior to punching Ebert. He knew it was broken and would miss a few games so he decided to show Ebert a bit of love.

    Ha ha I like it!

     

    Bugger, I'm out for a few weeks... Who can I hit...

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    5 hours ago, H_T said:

    He's a smart kid Jack. So just to be silly and add more weight to conspiracy, I'll say he injured it early first qtr, realised how serious it was, knew that he would miss weeks and require surgery; (ruin any hope of a Brownlow). And when push came to shove, he thought stuff it...I'll give Ebert a few love taps just for kicks and see if I can stir my boys up and pull their finger out, at the same time send a warning out - you want to rough us up?... Here cop this.

    Sounds fair.

    You are kidding!! I dout hat this would have entered into his mind!!

    Spur of the moment, Frustrated and given his will to win at all costs understandable but not totally forgivable IMV

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    Does anyone know which knuckle he did? Just from a forensics perspective. And if perhaps there was a puff of smoke seen rising from behind that leafy tree on the field? 

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    8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    i think someone up in the alice was a port supporter a pointed the bone at him

    You all forget the report that Viney was seen exiting a surgery last week, reportedly about a finger/hand issue. He told reporters it was okay, to forget about it. Any money he went into the game with the issue...

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    1 minute ago, dieter said:

    You all forget that report that Viney was seen exiting a surgery last week, reportedly about a finger/hand issue. He told them it was okay, to forget about it. Any money he went into the game with the issue...

    Quick - everyone over to the selection failures thread!

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    22 minutes ago, Skuit said:

    Does anyone know which knuckle he did? Just from a forensics perspective. And if perhaps there was a puff of smoke seen rising from behind that leafy tree on the field? 

    Check Eberts bowel motions.

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