Adam Goodes

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Maybe this thread should be locked

It seems to have come down to "I and not racist". "Yes you are"

Pointless exercise

[Red and Bluebeard 2,075]

only if it replaces the afl sprint.......worst bit of entertainment ever

True, apart perhaps from Meatloaf

[Bitter but optimistic 22,057]

i'm a quiet chap really. biffo. just don't like to shout. besides, i'd have to use two fingers then

Well i have to be honest. I think you are one seriously [censored] up individual dc.

[daisycutter 29,303]

Well i have to be honest. I think you are one seriously [censored] up individual dc.

that's praise indeed from my idol, bbo

[Moonshadow 17,471]

that's praise indeed from my idol, bbo

You misspelt 'idiot' dc

[Little Goffy 13,970]

Maybe this thread should be locked

It seems to have come down to "I and not racist". "Yes you are"

Pointless exercise

I'm pretty sure this thread is actually the basis for the next Star Wars movie.

Between this and the collected conference proceedings on the matter of Jack Watts and his relative level of responsibility for the inevitable entropic heat-death of the universe, there's a whole trilogy.

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I'm pretty sure this thread is actually the basis for the next Star Wars movie.

Between this and the collected conference proceedings on the matter of Jack Watts and his relative level of responsibility for the inevitable entropic heat-death of the universe, there's a whole trilogy.

sheesh, 22 pages and finally goffy has blamed jack watts

now that sanity has been restored we can safely close this thread with a brilliant conclusion

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Keep going Dave Its comedy gold.

1. I would like to know where I claimed to be an expert on racism?

2. I would like you to back up your wild assertion that 50% of Australians are racist? That is the number I was calling you on. Your frankly pathetic reason is that Abbott was voted in by 50% of the population. You can't even get that right. As for calling me ignorant or stupid, your personal attacks show more about your ability to defend your wildly outrageous comments with any semblence of intellect than my questioning of your assertions.

3.As for the people drowing at sea argument which you seem to have pulled from nowhere (I could hazard a guess), I think its pretty safe to say that people were drowning under the ALP policy of letting all and sundry arrive on our shores by boat. I'd like you to defend your claim that Abbott's policy has caused people to drown? I would suggest that he has stopped them from drowning. You may not like how he has done it and frankly I don't care for your views on it but again you make such wild, general and patently wrong assertions it's quite funny. This is what happens when posters can't debate in an intelligent manner. They throw in lots of spurious arguments that (are not only wrong) but have nopthing to do what what is being debated on this site.

4. Call people a racist because they don't agree with your views is a childish cop out Dave. Suggest you go and look at the definition of racism because you clearly don't undertsand it.

5. Making more sweeping assertions that children are locked up and I don't give a &*&^ really show you up for what you are Dave. Living at the bayside with all your guilt. I hope you get some help for that because clearly our free education system hasn't helped you at all.

Cheers.

Could go into a long-winded debate about you being a racist but why because your're one of the many people in this country who start a sentence with "I'm not racist but..........." You might think what i say is hilarious but I worry for the framework of this country when reprobate's like you can get on a website and pontificate all in the name of defending hatefilled racists and government who have as much compassion for humanity as Heinrich Himmler. You carry on as if you are some kind of intellect, well I tell you now buddy, it doesn't matter if you have an IQ of 200, if you are an [censored] theres no amount of intellectual masturbation that will change the fact you're a bigot!!

[daisycutter 29,303]

The thread that has it all

jack watts blamed, now godwin's law has been invoked

can't wait for the next instalment. maybe genghis khan's turn?

[binman 41,940]

Genghis khan had a pretty intimidating war dance

[Moonshadow 17,471]

The thread that has it all

jack watts blamed, now godwin's law has been invoked

can't wait for the next instalment. maybe genghis khan's turn?

Haven't heard jesus, allah or buddha being mentioned yet dc

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

Maybe this thread should be locked

It seems to have come down to "I and not racist". "Yes you are"

Pointless exercise

Too late. It's been invaded by "No T$ No B$".

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AzzKikA, on 02 Jun 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

I also have been doing a lot of reading on the plight the Indigenous people of Australia faced when the white man first came to this country and the atrocities thereafter. I have also read a lot about what the government has tried to do for them over the years as well to try to get them to be a better functioning community.

While I cannot begin to understand what they feel, I still stand by my remarks that many are still waiting for the white man to fix things for them and again I cannot understand why that is. Is it hate for the white man, fear, no self belief? What is holding them back from becoming the people they dream to be?

Thing is, that leadership vacuum in Aboriginal societies was deliberately created - when you pull apart a culture at the seams, all the ways that leaders emerge, prove themselves, and gain legitimacy are stifled.

Put that together with things like the phenomenon of the 'general exemption certificate' and similar provisions which made it impossible to engage with Australian law/commerce/society/football while also still retaining connections to community and culture. Literally by law, you couldn't participate in both.

I think you've touched on the crux of why reconciliation efforts have been to ineffective in so many cases. A great many of the bureaucrats and well-meaning upper-middle-class types see reconciliation as a kind of 'charity'.effort, spending billions on white elephant projects, of which little benefit gets to Aboriginal people or communities.

To my mind, if we want to really build reconciliation and get out of the rut, effort has to be shifted to helping the Aboriginal community to rebuild its leadership strength. In the modern sense, that means people like teachers, nurses, social workers, footy coaches, small business operators - all the 'small' leaders who actually make society in general function.

Help Aboriginal communities rebuild that leadership, and yes absolutely they will become much better at defining their own future and Australia will be on the real and conclusive path to reconciliation.

But 'More Aboriginal Leaders', even small ones, is an awkward proposition for the 'establishment' politics and especially bureaucracy to deal with, after so many generations of charitable distribution via appointment of additional middle-managers.

A "talent identification" program searching for mature individuals with community leader/management potential . . rather than athletic ability! Mmmm!

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22 pages of this thread and guess what - Adam Goodes is still an attention seeking moron

Edited June 2, 2015 by hogans_heroes

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Yeah the dance before the GF could be a great thing, need to be present players though, so people can relate to them. If they are from a community i think there will be less interest, I don't agree with it but that is how it will be IMO.

The next question is, do you include other races in it?

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Yeah the dance before the GF could be a great thing, need to be present players though, so people can relate to them. If they are from a community i think there will be less interest, I don't agree with it but that is how it will be IMO.

The next question is, do you include other races in it?

Why would you include other races if it is like a "welcome to country" type of thing in response to the acknowledgement of the traditional custodians of the land? Why not have someone like the Bangarra dance troupe present a stylised version prior to the start of the GF? Educational, entertaining and would appeal to all people on all levels (it's got to be better than Meatloaf).

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22 pages of this thread and guess what - Adam Goodes is still an attention seeking moron

22 pages has got to be the most reading you've ever done HH.

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22 pages has got to be the most reading you've ever done HH.

And it appears he still managed to get nothing out of it.

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And it appears he still managed to get nothing out of it.

What have you got out of it ?

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The thread that has it all

jack watts blamed, now godwin's law has been invoked

can't wait for the next instalment. maybe genghis khan's turn?

Has Mark Neeld been blamed yet?

Can't close it til then.

[hardtack 10,400]

What have you got out of it ?

Apart from the fact that there are a surprising number of bigots on these forums, I haven't got much out of it that is likely to sway my opinion that Goodes did nothing wrong in being an indigenous player performing an indigenous "tribal war dance" during a match that was a part of the indigenous round as a celebration of his scoring a goal.

My opinion that he did nothing untoward in partly directing that celebration at a group of Carlton supporters who had been jeering him from the opening siren up until that point in time has not and will not change.

My opinion that he was right in outing the racism that was directed at him two years ago and that he would not have realised the age of the person he pointed out has not changed... although I did learn that he publicly went to the defence of the girl once he did know the details and it was the media who "crucified" her.

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I am seldom amazed these days but this thread has achieved it.

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22 pages has got to be the most reading you've ever done HH.

Nah, Im not stupid enough to have bothered reading through this thread

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I think I deserved to go straight into the semis at least dc!!

To be honest ,I'm 57 so as far as a pizzing contest is concerned, I have applied for a priority pick

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To be honest ,I'm 57 so as far as a pizzing contest is concerned, I have applied for a priority pick

Are high pressure catheters permissible?