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  On 20/04/2015 at 11:34, The Song Formerly Known As said:

That's 40 points we wouldn't have had last year. Excluding his score assists.

True, but imagine if he was kicking at over 50% efficiency. I'm sure he will get it up there eventually... I just found it funny that everyone focuses their vitriol on Watts.

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    Its great to talk about missed shots at goal than no shots at goal. One step at a time for me. You don't just decide to change someones action in season unless there is a major issue you likely do more harm than good.

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    Seriously? Hogans played three games, kicked 6 goals 4 behinds, and you already think he urgently needs to change his kicking technique?

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    He is going to need to change that action. His field kicking is reasonably fluid but that stuttering, lean back set shot routine is a shocker.

    Having said that, once he can kick, he will be perfect.

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    Jesse will now come out on Friday night and kick 6 goals straight on the big stage

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    There was a video posted in Instagram last week showing Hulk practicing his goal kicking at Adelaide Oval.

    Very straight, methodical, and fluent. This was not the run up he uses on match day. It's one thing to train a player to change their natural kicking technique, but under match day pressure all that can go out the window and the player reverts to what is comfortable and trusted.

    (And it's only his third game)

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    It pains me to say but I tend to agree with this thread and mentioned early on that his kicking action worries me.

    I don't think he needs a complete overhaul but without doubt his action could be improved.

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    He's had about 4 different set shot routines since seeing him in the U18 till now. It looked like he'd sorted it out but last week he was all over the shop.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 11:30, picket fence said:

    I agree, I spose I just want the complete "Champion" "Gun" Forward which we have lacked for such a long time.

    Very happy with how he is going, but just mention this "Anomaly" as part of a discussion point! Which IMO does need to be worked on!

    Just sayin!

    Yes, but I think what has been demonstrated is that, actually, it doesn't need to be worked on.

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    The slightly wonky set shots are the only sign he's shown that he is a 20 year old that is holding up a whole AFL team's forwardline in his first 3 games. I think it's clear that the stutter is a product of nerves and not a deliberate approach.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 12:45, Brayshaw Self said:

    The slightly wonky set shots are the only sign he's shown that he is a 20 year old that is holding up a whole AFL team's forwardline in his first 3 games. I think it's clear that the stutter is a product of nerves and not a deliberate approach.

    Not sure if you're being serious, but he kicked a bag for Casey two years ago with precisely the same approach.

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    he'll fix his kicking action. I just want him to be able to nail goals from 50m. Not sure he can kick that far. had a shot from 45 a while ago and sprayed it bad. Early days so no big deal but geez it would be nice to see him smash one from outside 50m. love this kid.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 11:08, picket fence said:

    Nup not buying it 1 I think Kicking style is ingrained from an early age, nothing to do with Maturity, All to do with developing a set shot routine!

    I believe that this needs to be rectified ASAP!

    Somebody beat me to it, but Jjjjosh Kkkkennnedddy's ssstttuttter hasn't served him too badly.

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    Start with Jeffy then work on Hoges.

    But he kicks fine in training. It's a game day thing.

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    Everyone has off days Nita had the yeps from time to time, what he has kick 6.4 that's about AFL average .

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    For those that refer to the six Jesse kicked for Casey, go have have a look at the goals from that match. Of the 6 goals, 5 of them were from set shots and his approach did not have a stutter in it. He was very fluid in his run up and nailed each one.

    We need to make sure he gets back to something like that.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 14:45, CHF said:

    For those that refer to the six Jesse kicked for Casey, go have have a look at the goals from that match. Of the 6 goals, 5 of them were from set shots and his approach did not have a stutter in it. He was very fluid in his run up and nailed each one.

    We need to make sure he gets back to something like that.

    He's always had a bit of a skip in his run up. He had it in that game at Casey but it wasn't as pronounced as it was on the weekend.

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    This is an overreaction.

    For the past two years we've barely even had an offensive threat. Now we have Jesse and Jeff actually playing a role as forwards I'm not gonna complain that they're kicking behinds. Plus, give him a little leeway in his third game with a drenched ball.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 14:58, rjay said:

    He's always had a bit of a skip in his run up. He had it in that game at Casey but it wasn't as pronounced as it was on the weekend.

    True, but it is a hell of a lot worse now then it was then. That one he missed in front goal had 3 or 4 stutters in it.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 11:40, hardtack said:

    True, but imagine if he was kicking at over 50% efficiency. I'm sure he will get it up there eventually... I just found it funny that everyone focuses their vitriol on Watts.

      On 20/04/2015 at 14:03, not angry anymore said:

    Everyone has off days Nita had the yeps from time to time, what he has kick 6.4 that's about AFL average .

    It is not average for Garlett!
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    I saw him kick from 50 against the wind in the VFL.

    It went backwards.

    Nah just kidding, it sailed through.

    There are players with perfect kicking actions that are inaccurate, it's all about comfort and confidence.

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    I am yet to see anyone completely overhaul their kicking style to much effect, let him do what he feels is comfortable and he will get the best results.

    For what its worth, the thing I like most about Hogan is that he is a more than decent field kick and looks to bring his team mates into the game by passing it to someone in a better position when he is near the 50m arc.

    The fluid/lazy kicking style of Jeff Gartlett has not yet been working for us, but no doubt he will eventually have a game where he is able to kick 6 and i really hope its against Richmond.

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      On 20/04/2015 at 11:08, america de cali said:

    Nick Reiwold, Travis Cloke and Luke Breust are current big goal kickers who had horrendous patches in their careers where they could not hit the side of a barn at any distance. FFS he's only played three games.

    I would be happy with Luke Bruest but I still wouldn't want Cloke or Reiwold kicking to save my life.

    But I agree - 3 games . yikes...

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      On 20/04/2015 at 11:29, hardtack said:

    Was just discussed on On the Couch.... but they also discussed Garlett... while everyone is bagging Watts over a couple of dropped marks at crucial times, Garlett has been kicking at 38% efficiency and has 0.5 from set shots in his total of 5.10 in three games. If Hogan and Garlett can get their acts together, we will be much better off... Watts is not the problem.

    Sheahan or Brown: 'Will Watts play next week?'

    Roos: (without any hesitation) 'ABSOLUTELY!'

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