FAREWELL JEREMY HOWE

[Neitz the Great 555]

Hypothetical: There's been some talk about Lachie Weller wanting to come to VIC

Would you do a straight swap of Howe for Weller??

[SaberFang 7,151]

Wonder if theres a player we really want at pick 3 that we are sure wont be there at 6?

If so we could possibly do Howe + pick 6 for pick 3 and their 2nd rounder

Was exactly my first thought; it's pretty clear Parish will be taken by Essendon at 4 or 5 (Carlisle pick).

Gold Coast gain Howe in exchange for a 3 pick downgrade of their first rounder and their second/third round pick. They already have pick 19 so I'm not sure they'll miss it much.

[olisik 4,060]

Maybe we want pick 10. Give us a chance to snare both Curnow and Weidemann

[P-man 13,367]

I don't want to hate Howe once he leaves, but if he goes to North, I'll be left with little alternative.

[Yossarian 1,820]

I don't want to hate Howe once he leaves, but if he goes to North, I'll be left with little alternative.

Totally agree, was thinking this today.

I hate North Melbourne.

[M C 221]

Hypothetical: There's been some talk about Lachie Weller wanting to come to VIC

Would you do a straight swap of Howe for Weller??

100%

[jumbo returns 6,741]

I'll only ever hate Scully.

[CityDee 738]

Allure of golf courses to play all year round in decent weather may sway Howe to choose the godly .

[beelzebub 23,390]

I'll only ever hate Scully.

he did us a favour

[Middymalt 244]

Brayshaw looks like a future A grade mid.

I meant swapping picks for established mids mate.

[Middymalt 244]

Totally agree, was thinking this today.

I hate North Melbourne.

I admire norf minnow club low supporter base yet always put there body's on the line and continually play final

Year after year.

[Weekends at Bernie's 64]

I cannot see how Fremantle or Collingwood can trade with us for Howe unless they offer up a decent player. Both clubs by the sounds of it may have there 1st & 2nd Rnd draft picks for the next 2 yrs tied up in trades elsewhere therefore they will not be able to satisfy us with draft pick/s

[Yossarian 1,820]

I admire norf minnow club low supporter base yet always put there body's on the line and continually play final

Year after year.

My hatred is completely irrational.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I cannot see how Fremantle or Collingwood can trade with us for Howe unless they offer up a decent player. Both clubs by the sounds of it may have there 1st & 2nd Rnd draft picks for the next 2 yrs tied up in trades elsewhere therefore they will not be able to satisfy us with draft pick/s

Collingwood may tie Ben Kennedy in with a trade if that's where Howe wants to go. Freo might offer up someone such as Lachie Weller as well, but I see what you mean. A few clubs already have some good picks tied up in trades which makes it difficult.

[Roger Mellie 4,179]

Hypothetical: There's been some talk about Lachie Weller wanting to come to VIC

Would you do a straight swap of Howe for Weller??

YES

[DemonLad5 1,642]

latest on Howe from AFL website.

"The 25-year-old played his 100th game with Melbourne in the final round but he has played in just 22 wins since making his debut in round 11, 2011.

The Suns made a presentation to him last week and are understood to be very keen on him joining the fledgling club, with a role as a mobile forward alongside Tom Lynch likely to suit Howe.

They are also likely to be in a better position to get a deal done quickly with the Demons.

Melbourne hold pick No.6 and the Suns have pick No.3 and potentially pick No.10 if they trade Charlie Dixon to Port Adelaide. They might be able to shuffle picks in any deal involving Howe.

On Friday, Howe's manager Ben Niall indicated on trade radio Howe was more likely to leave the Demons than stay.

He is expected to make a decision when he returns from Bali this week."

...Wonder what they have in mind for the "shuffling of picks"?

Are they implying that it may be something like - Howe and pick 6 for pick 3? Or Howe and pick 25 for pick 10/19

[SaberFang 7,151]

Collingwood joined the race tonight, according to Seven.

So it's Gold Coast, North and Collingwood (with a few other teams showing interest).

[Earl Hood 6,152]

I note his manager saying in the Hun that not many people realise Howe is an elite endurance athlete as well as a repeat sprinter of high order! Not sure I noticed that in games but at training I know he ticks nearly every box on mobility, ball handling, speed and aerial skill. And his manager says a major motivation is for Jeremy to find one position and play there. Well yes he has been moved around as we have searched for where he can play to his obvious strengths.

Has he ever played on the wing for an extended period? He has obvious Isaac Smith like abilities but I don't believe he has ever shown the willingness to work hard running both ways. He has at times looked bloody good at running forward on the wing, think of that incredible running with the flight of the ball mark over Embley at the Gee some years ago (degree of difficulty 9.98). And this year In the last game at Etihad i witnessed him run forward to the pocket and Brayshaw I think just loop up a pass in the air. Howe just launches himself vertically for the mark, the defender had no chance of getting a fist in there. And then he kicks the goal. He should be able to do that three times a game easily. These are all cameos of talent. For some reason he lacks the work ethic or the knowledge of how to do it, to be a consistent 20 to 25 possession outside runner who can kick goals. He learns that and he is worth his weight in picks. I would be happy for him to stay and we work on his potential. But if he goes so be it.

[SaberFang 7,151]

Howe wants to play forward. The coaches want him to play in defense.

He decides his opinion is worth more than the coaches.

End of story.

And you know what? I trust our coaches a hell of a lot more than Howe or his ass of a manager. I don't give a crap what abilities he apparently "possesses." On game day, he's lazy, doesn't gut run, doesn't understand our structures and has horrible body language. Worst of all, he so desperately wants to be a forward and can't stand Roosy playing him in defence, yet he kicked more behinds than goals this year. Stop drinking your own bathwater Jeremy.

[Weekends at Bernie's 64]

Collingwood may tie Ben Kennedy in with a trade if that's where Howe wants to go. Freo might offer up someone such as Lachie Weller as well, but I see what you mean. A few clubs already have some good picks tied up in trades which makes it difficult.

That's my point which I think gives Melbourne a good starting point, however I think we should try and keep Kennedy separate to any Howe deal. If we can land a top 20 pick or Weller a top 20 pick from last year, I believe that will be a decent result for MFC

[SaberFang 7,151]

Collingwood getting involved isn't exactly good news; their picks for this and next year's drafts are well and truly tied up with Treloar and Aish.

[Weekends at Bernie's 64]

Collingwood getting involved isn't exactly good news; their picks for this and next year's drafts are well and truly tied up with Treloar and Aish.

It's not our problem if Collingwood cannot satisfy us with a suitable deal. They will have there priorities and if Howe is not one bad luck!! The more clubs vying for Howe's services the better

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I still think Howe is GC bound. It seems they have chased him the hardest, and while others have shown some interest, GC seem to be the ones who have sustained it the longest.

Or maybe I'm just hoping it's GC Howe goes to as I think they can satisfy us the best in a trade.

[Deecisive 1,709]

the more bidding for him the merrier. will only increase his value way beyond what he is truly worth.

[Deecisive 1,709]

Howe can veto any deal, so hopefully the deal that's best for him is also the one that's best for the club.