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Cross is a very professional player but I really don't know what position he plays in the team. I'd have him captain of Casey. He's another NQR player to join Brynes, Bail, Spencer, Terlich, M.Jones, Pederson and the rest. We won't be taken seriously until we play players with heart and skill. Give me Kent and Viney who play with passion.

Cross is easily in our best 10 players.

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we dont belong in the AFL

Simple really

HH, go to the kitchen, pour yourself a scotch then throw it into your face. Then slap yourself twice and hard. Get real. Edited by Return to Glory
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Cross is a very professional player but I really don't know what position he plays in the team. I'd have him captain of Casey. He's another NQR player to join Brynes, Bail, Spencer, Terlich, M.Jones, Pederson and the rest. We won't be taken seriously until we play players with heart and skill. Give me Kent and Viney who play with passion.

Einstein. The leading tackler in the AFL. You would throw him back to casey.

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Roos is the highest paid person in the AFL and his results thus far are zero

This year is effectively another write off (already )

If the rezults after 3 rounds in 15 are similar then Melbourne is terminal and Roos a failure. Its still 14 and the experiment continues.

Nice to see so many in accord that most of our list just isnt AFL .

Its about a team...not identities.

Those 'Roos dissiers' will be filling out.

Dont expect this lot to change much. What has to happen is changing much of this lot !!!

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Because he's a skinny kid

FMD

I cringe every time we trade an early draft pick for a package/player. I was against giving up pick 20 for Ben Holland, a low pick to Geelong for Clint Bizzel(They selected James Kell with our pick) & pick whilst I like Tyson & hope Salem will be gun. I saw Kelly as a young gun with poise something we lack. It's so hard to follow Melbourne. Hope we start playing players with grunt, talent and footy nous. I'm sick of players who can't kick or read the play.

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We just seem to really lack onfield leaders and aggressive, confident players. Right across the board we seem to have confidence type players - ones who need others around them to also be on before they can be.

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Thank god for supercoach and hoping Carlton lose every week or I think I would give up on footy altogether!

well they won't lose next week as they have the bye playing us

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Roos is the highest paid person in the AFL and his results thus far are zero

I don't want to step on Lordweaver's turf but wtf did you expect this early on. Jesus managed to make a couple of sardines and a sausage roll feed 5000 - That is what you are asking of Roos.

Cross is a very professional player but I really don't know what position he plays in the team. I'd have him captain of Casey. He's another NQR player to join Brynes, Bail, Spencer, Terlich, M.Jones, Pederson and the rest. We won't be taken seriously until we play players with heart and skill. Give me Kent and Viney who play with passion.

Even after a gutful of cheap red i wouldn't say something that silly.

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would it be better for the club to fold ASAP than to gradually die like this, week by week of sub-standard performances destroying the souls of the supporters? youre

You're exactly the type of bloke that the club does not need.

Folding has never and will never be an option.

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The only viable asset this club has left is the "Melbourne" brand name. It would be unpalatable for this great city to not have representative club to the AFL. Rather than persisting with a dead duck or relocation a scenario that could be likely is that the club is disenfranchised. All players paid off and later reconstituted as the new Melbourne whatever. May be made up of the remnants of our current side worthy of persisting with draft picks, and others. Perhaps we will be known as the Melbourne Phoenix.

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I don't want to step on Lordweaver's turf but wtf did you expect this early on. Jesus managed to make a couple of sardines and a sausage roll feed 5000 - That is what you are asking of Roos.

Even after a gutful of cheap red i wouldn't say something that silly.

Well if he was considered over the hill at the Bulldogs why is he such good value for us other than being a good role model which he good be on the training track. I want us to go after young guns not the Rodens, Brynes and Pedersons of the football world.

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The only viable asset this club has left is the "Melbourne" brand name. It would be unpalatable for this great city to not have representative club to the AFL. Rather than persisting with a dead duck or relocation a scenario that could be likely is that the club is disenfranchised. All players paid off and later reconstituted as the new Melbourne whatever. May be made up of the remnants of our current side worthy of persisting with draft picks and others. Perhaps we would be known as the Melbourne Phoenix.

I wouldn't follow the AFL if Melbourne went. But EPL doesn't have a team called London.

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The only viable asset this club has left is the "Melbourne" brand name. It would be unpalatable for this great city to not have representative club to the AFL. Rather than persisting with a dead duck or relocation a scenario that could be likely is that the club is disenfranchised.

There's about 30,000 of us who are already disenfranchised ...

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The level of anger vented on this forum makes me think the club is at a tipping point and now is the time for some leadership. I know the president wants to remain in the background but I'm not sure this is an option at the moment. really believe the coaches and CEO we have are elite but the list is substandard. More change of senior coaches etc will only add to the problem so we need Jackson and Roos to fully buy in for as long as it takes. If not we may as we'll fold.

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The level of anger vented on this forum makes me think the club is at a tipping point and now is the time for some leadership. I know the president wants to remain in the background but I'm not sure this is an option at the moment. really believe the coaches and CEO we have are elite but the list is substandard. More change of senior coaches etc will only add to the problem so we need Jackson and Roos to fully buy in for as long as it takes. If not we may as we'll fold.

What exactly would you suggest Bartlett, Jackson or Roos do that isn't already being done?

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Well if he was considered over the hill at the Bulldogs why is he such good value for us other than being a good role model which he good be on the training track. I want us to go after young guns not the Rodens, Brynes and Pedersons of the football world.

He has played two good games for us and today was serviceable.... and .....yes he is a very good role model. I too would like to pick up a swag of young guns but we haven't had a lot of success in that area. This bloke at least adds a bit of credibility to our midfield.

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Give a valid reason why we should be in the AFL

You mean besides being the oldest club with 12 Premierships and perhaps the greatest era of them all? Listen Hoges, follow your logic and the Hawks, Saints, Roos, Swans and Brisbane would no longer be in existence. Yes we have had a horror run but it does not compare to that of some other clubs. As I heard Finey on SEN say, imagine following St kilda in the 80's.

And one more thing, and this may be hard to get your head around - sport has its winners and losers...If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster and treat those two impostors just the same; you'll be a man Hoges.

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