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Colin Sylvia

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however you measure it (club BNFs, supercoach, brownlow etc) there are still more top10 picks amongst the best players in the comp than there are players taken in the 50s.. so it's not quite a lottery is it

sure there are heaps in the 20s and 30s also but pound-for-pound the higher the pick the better the player (cue idiot that points out all the exceptions that prove the rule)

people talk like you might as well just trade petracca and brayshaw up for a couple of picks in the 70s because it makes no difference

however you measure it (club BNFs, supercoach, brownlow etc) there are still more top10 picks amongst the best players in the comp than there are players taken in the 50s.. so it's not quite a lottery is it

sure there are heaps in the 20s and 30s also but pound-for-pound the higher the pick the better the player (cue idiot that points out all the exceptions that prove the rule)

people talk like you might as well just trade petracca and brayshaw up for a couple of picks in the 70s because it makes no difference

History & logic tells us that the top 10 should be better than the next 10 and so on and so forth. There are other truths to the draft that are undeniable but the truths are all over the place.

It then often comes down to what people want to take in and believe and what they don't want to know about (which then can become discarded knowledge that is in contrast to what they want to believe)

If a balanced view is taken then one would look at the whole drafting process with bemusement and suspicion. It seems to go in cycles too ... all clubs draft busts but if they can somehow not draft too many and win games, those busts get largely forgotten.

Tiger fans no longer moan and groan about Fiora & Tambling ... why? Because they've had more luck in recent times (Cotchin, Martin & now Deledio gets counted in)

 

Wayne Carey quoted in The Age saying that Colin looks like he fell asleep and swallowed his pillow, so out of condition is he.

Oh dear.

Would take anything Carey says with a grain of salt. He is a terrific judge of humans isn't he. Yeah I know he was some sort of player but his personal player valuations mean Jack Shiezen to lots of better Australians. Just flock off Carey.

And a giant vacant lot between his ears

Agreed

Would take anything Carey says with a grain of salt. He is a terrific judge of humans isn't he. Yeah I know he was some sort of player but his personal player valuations mean Jack Shiezen to lots of better Australians. Just flock off Carey.

Er... I'd say Carey was pretty much spot on. Did you read the article or hear him on the radio re this? Carey the footballer is a premiership capt and 7 x AA and has fantastic knowledge of the game and what it takes to be a great of the game. Sure, what he said wasn't flattering and he may well have said it somewhat in jest on the radio to get a rise, but he was correct about preseason training requirements.

Wayne Carey outside of football (if that's what you are referring to) may not be great, but this is irrelevant to what he said about Silvia.

It's hard to believe there are still those out there that feel Sylvia has the talent to be a star of the comp, but just can't put it together mentally. He's just a bog average player.

 

It's hard to believe there are still those out there that feel Sylvia has the talent to be a star of the comp, but just can't put it together mentally. He's just a bog average player.

Yep, and couldn't shine in arguably one of the shittest teams of the last decade.

It's hard to believe there are still those out there that feel Sylvia has the talent to be a star of the comp, but just can't put it together mentally. He's just a bog average player.

BS he did have games where he proved he was/couldvebeen a star, it was only about 3 times in 163 games. R9 2009, 37 disposals and 4 goals, just about the best game of any individual for that season (we still lost of course)

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2009/101120090524.html

ps: 3 out of 163, otherwise known as the brad miller ratio

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BS he did have games where he proved he was/couldvebeen a star, it was only about 3 times in 163 games. R9 2009, 37 disposals and 4 goals, just about the best game of any individual for that season (we still lost of course)

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2009/101120090524.html

ps: 3 out of 163, otherwise known as the brad miller ratio

As you point out with your Brad Miller ratio quote, players have their good games. They don't prove anything unless the player can consistently perform. Silvia doesn't have the talent to be a top level AFL player, the proof is in his performances.

As you point out with your Brad Miller ratio quote, players have their good games. They don't prove anything unless the player can consistently perform. Silvia doesn't have the talent to be a top level AFL player, the proof is in his performances.

point taken, but i contend that Miller's 3 good games were cases of a blind sow finding an acorn (or wtf that expression is) but Sylvia's were the real player he was, obfuscated by the other 160 games where he just didnt give a stuff

Well I guess now that Wayne Carey has critiqued Sylvia's behaviour in this morning's Hun, it is official. He is behaving badly as a elite sports professional from the expert on inappropriate behaviour!

Well I guess now that Wayne Carey has critiqued Sylvia's behaviour in this morning's Hun, it is official. He is behaving badly as a elite sports professional from the expert on inappropriate behaviour!

Wayne may have made some mistakes off the ground but he never compromised his ability to perform on game day.

Sylvia was servicable in his last few years at the club, I thought he was one of our better players.

He can bounce back from this minor setback. It is only Feb for christ sakes.

This attitude really annoys me and frankly says a lot about your football knowledge and observations. Its his 12th year in the system FCS. He was exactly the culture that set in and caused us to underperform. He wasn't alone but his CGAF attitude, I'll get by on my talent is the reason why so many juniors go on to fail or underperform at AFL level.

The real crime is that our administrative and coaching culture was so weak that we didn't trade him when we realised (or worse still didn't realise) that he would never have the right attitude to get the best out of himself. Nor did we have the leaders at our club (Bruce, Whte, Yze, Green et al) that could demonstrate and demand excellence of training standards, on-field standards and off-field standards. Aside from Junior we were bereft of on field leaders which is why for so many years we would have long spells of under performance (this week is a line in the sand blah blah blah)

Plenty here did recognise it early such as yours truly and got castigated for it. And worse still they aim their venom at someone like JT that tries his guts out and has had a devastating run with injury.

Give me someone with Sylvia's undoubted talent but with Cross' or even Terlich's attitude and commitment to get the best out of themselves.


Yeah when you're getting career advise from a guy who shagged his captain's misses and glassed his own, you really need to have a good look at yourself!

A broken clock shows the correct time twice a day. (Assuming its not a digital 24 hour clock, in which case it would be once a day.) :)

Don't mistake talent for col failure, he had the talent to make it the AFL, that there is no doubt, many a talented sportsman have not made it, talent is only half of what u need the other half is determination, col was often injured it takes hard work to come back from injury, col is not one for hard work, that's half the problem with col, also I believe that col in his mind his career was over in his last year st the Dees, he signed a three year contract with Fremantle, that money is his he is not trying his body is finished, he only signed for the money, col likes the lifestyle of a AFL footballer, but not the hard work.

Agree. It is rare for a Coach to slag off at a player the way Lyon has done on Col. They must be very upset and disappointed.

Lyon said he came to the first Pre Season completely unfit and has done it again.

They have it tough AFL players. Ok guys off you go, have a holiday... But don't actually take the foot off the pedal you must come back in peak fitness!!!


They have it tough AFL players. Ok guys off you go, have a holiday... But don't actually take the foot off the pedal you must come back in peak fitness!!!

If you're a professional athlete you should probably maintain exemplary fitness all year around. It's their career path, after all.

If you're a professional athlete you should probably maintain exemplary fitness all year around. It's their career path, after all.

If you read about Sally Pearson's training regime this summer you would laugh at Sylvia and any concept that he might be an elite sportsman. But you might add most of the AFL to that list as well, I think Sally may b ahead of most but doesn't have the contract to show it.

 

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