Who is the best up and coming Young Gun Forward ???

[Demon Stalwart 255]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-05/best-of-the-best

What do you think ?

Personally I love his stats on Aggression , Marking and Aerobic ability , if his Kicking is his only real downside,I am sure that can be addressed .

Is it possible for once that we have actually got it right ?

[rjay 25,087]

I think we've got it right.

[mjt 640]

Jack Gunston is better than all of them.

[rjay 25,087]

Jack Gunston is better than all of them.

lol

[KingDingAling 3,758]

Jack Gunston is better than all of them.

Unfair to compare those above players to Gunston.

Gunston has the performances on the board and has been in the system quite a while, he can't be included.

[CHAMP 347]

With Boyd yet to play senior footy many of his ratings remain to be tested.

It's been noted that he's susceptible to niggle, even at TAC level.

I'll wait and see. Should though be interesting.

[ignition. 1,466]

I like how Hogan is 2 cm shorter than Patton and scores a 7.8 to Patton's 9.2 under "size".

[mjt 640]

Unfair to compare those above players to Gunston.

Gunston has the performances on the board and has been in the system quite a while, he can't be included.

Yeah true 2009, he puts a bloke like Watts to shame, that kid can seriously play he just seems to be in the right spot all the time.

[CHAMP 347]

I like how Hogan is 2 cm shorter than Patton and scores a 7.8 to Patton's 9.2 under "size".

BMIs are Boyd 25.8, Hogan 25.5, Patton 25.8 and Danners 23.3.

A 'size' score of 8.9 could easily be argued for Hogan.

[rjay 25,087]

Yeah true 2009, he puts a bloke like Watts to shame, that kid can seriously play he just seems to be in the right spot all the time.

Being in the best kicking side in the comp helps you be in the right spot I would think but there is no doubt he then finishes his work very well. He doesn't let his teammates down so why wouldn't you kick to him.

[All the Jacks 99]

Happy with Hogan and he will develop well under Paul Roos and now that the midfield has had some attention, timing is perfect...

[Don24 103]

i dont think anyone has got it 'wrong'... all of the above players should become very good AFL footballers.

However, its silly comparing at this stage when none of them have even a dozen games under their belt......

[rjay 25,087]

i dont think anyone has got it 'wrong'... all of the above players should become very good AFL footballers.

However, its silly comparing at this stage when none of them have even a dozen games under their belt......

It is pretty funny but it's all part and parcel of the game. We all need to wind each other up or take the bait and get in a good footy argument even if it doesn't make sense. 'mjt's' thrown the Gunston hand grenade into this one to get things moving along and somehow we've got a bit of Watts in there as well.

[Alcho Dee 269]

What do they base leadership on? The way he conducted himself on field in the VFL I would think 6.8 is a joke.

[Alcho Dee 269]

Any 17 year old kid who can play VFL the way he did and drive Casey deep into the finals must be a good leader

[Whispering_Jack 30,641]

Any 17 year old kid who can play VFL the way he did and drive Casey deep into the finals must be a good leader

Absolutely. I was there the day Casey played the Northern Blues and they had Matthew Watson standing him at full back. Watson was a late first round pick and was in his third season on their list but Hogan led him a merry dance all day until Watson (who was noticeably blowing) had to be taken off him. That's what I call leadership!!!

I'm aware that Daniher has already had a few games in the AFL with Essendon as well but the table doesn't really take into account the experience Hogan's gained with a season at the club under his belt.

[rjay 25,087]

Absolutely. I was there the day Casey played the Northern Blues and they had Matthew Watson standing him at full back. Watson was a late first round pick and was in his third season on their list but Hogan led him a merry dance all day until Watson (who was noticeably blowing) had to be taken off him. That's what I call leadership!!!

I'm aware that Daniher has already had a few games in the AFL with Essendon as well but the table doesn't really take into account the experience Hogan's gained with a season at the club under his belt.

He monstered Watson that day 'Jack'.

[DeeSpencer 26,080]

Funny how someone mentioned Gunston but no comment on the undeniable top key forward in Cameron.

Of the rest Patton has done two knees and was never the most athletic. I see a lot of potential but he's coming from a mile back. I think he'll be like a Tom Hawkins. A big monster but never the most maneuverable and therefore if off his game he'll struggle.

Daniher and Boyd are these new breed of 200cm types. They'll take a longer time to develop but both have that Kurt Tippett like ability to ruck and to just be too darn big for defenders. Boyd is stronger, Daniher more rangy. I'd be happy with either of them but the reason I like Hogan more is his versatility. He's got the fitness and agility that he can play CHF, FF, crumb goals, lay big tackles, out run big defenders, over power weaker ones.

[Machsy 2,858]

Jack Gunston is better than all of them.

Ha! Trolling? Surely.

[Machsy 2,858]

Can't see why Hogan falls behind in strength, speed, versatility (can play CHB) and kicking (field and goal kicking both good), along with the absurd leadership rating (a kid who is fiercely competitive, works hard, hates losing and hasn't come close to an indiscretion to date).

I think these ratings have been largely educated guesses by the author, and at the end adjusted because Hogan came out too far on top, making it a comical comparison.

[What 18,810]

Can safely say Hogan is way better than the other 3 and I dont even feel biased saying it

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Daniher is a monster, as is our Hogan.

These two love a contest!

[rjay 25,087]

Can't see why Hogan falls behind in strength, speed, versatility (can play CHB) and kicking (field and goal kicking both good), along with the absurd leadership rating (a kid who is fiercely competitive, works hard, hates losing and hasn't come close to an indiscretion to date).

I think these ratings have been largely educated guesses by the author, and at the end adjusted because Hogan came out too far on top, making it a comical comparison.

Maybe even uneducated 'Machsy'.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,233]

I have been limited in my viewing of both Patton and Boyd but can say I have watched a fair amount of Daniher and Hogan including watching them both at Windy Hill in the VFL this year. The one thing that I think Hogan has over all is presence. The one thing I am confident he has over all of them is a bit of mongrel.

[Machsy 2,858]

Maybe even uneducated 'Machsy'.

Trying to be kind.