Training - Friday 10th January, 2014

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

But do you really blame them?

yes, he jarred his knee.

I know we have a lot of bad luck, particularly with key forwards but we just need to relax a little.

The season is a long way away still.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,286]

yes, he jarred his knee.

I know we have a lot of bad luck, particularly with key forwards but we just need to relax a little.

The season is a long way away still.

You're very cool Song. Did this news have any impact on your training report "hard on" ?

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

You're very cool Song. Did this news have any impact on your training report "hard on" ?

It required me adding more lubricant than normal in what was a minor set-back, but i still got through ok.

Not too disimilar to young Jesse's minor set-back and current situation actually.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,286]

Well done !!!!!

[Mono 454]

On another note it was good to see Billy Stretch at training having a kick with Toumpas. Then went inside with Viney, made me feel old seeing Viney & Stretch together.

The most interesting post on this 104 post topic.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Is he even allowed to train with us? doesn't that violate some rule with future draftees, which Essendon was also doing last year?

[DeeSpencer 23,188]

Is he even allowed to train with us? doesn't that violate some rule with future draftees, which Essendon was also doing last year?

Essendon got done for rookie prospects training with them before the draft unless they got done for another issue.

I believe Father Son Prospects must be different because the Bulldogs had Libba and Wallis training with them for various periods many years before anything was made official with those 2. Maybe there's a permission to train for father son process that we've submitted for. I'm not worried that we are doing anything wrong as it's not unusual.

[Whispering_Jack 28,004]

This report in the Herald Sun covers the time trial with pictures and a report of the training incident involving Hogan's knee seems to have been tacked on:-

Jesse Hogan jars knee as veteran recruit Daniel Cross finishes fourth in Melbourne time-trial

In a training session that followed the time-trial boom youngster Jesse Hogan sent a scare through the Demons camp when he limped off after landing awkwardly in a marking contest.

The club said the 18-year-old - who is set to make his much-anticipated debut in Round 1 after being recruited in the 2012 mini-draft - was expected to miss 1-2 weeks of training.

"Jesse had an incident at training today where he jarred his knee. He has since been cleared of any major damage," Melbourne football manager Josh Mahoney told the AFL website.

My guess is that the club will handle this with care and have the knee looked at closely. IIRC, a similar diagnosis on Hogan's knee came out when he injured it against Bendigo Gold in August. On that basis, that 1 - 2 weeks might well extend itself out a little longer.

[Winners at last 4,742]

Hogan may end up being out for 4 - 6 weeks.

A pessimist is a well informed optimist.

[rhaz 342]

More time in the gym getting huge for Hoges.

Not concerned.

[SaberFang 7,141]

He'll be gutted he can't get out in the 40° sun to work on general fitness with the boys, but as above, more time in the gym to keep building his body.

[CBDees 3,162]

He'll be gutted he can't get out in the 40° sun to work on general fitness with the boys, but as above, more time in the gym to keep building his body.

Training in 40° next week may work in our favour when we play in Alice Springs.

[Elwood 3184 1,268]

Training in 40° next week may work in our favour when we play in Alice Springs.

According to the club's website, all training sessions next week will also be in a place that's almost as far away as Alice Springs. Casey Fields. Probably because of the tennis.

[Deestar3 167]

Just wondering if anyone has seen Christian Salem at training. I heard tonight from a fairly reliable source that he has been diagnosed with a thyroid condition & will be on a moderated & limited training program? Anyone else heard this.

[rjay 23,923]

.....or, he just had an unfortunate landing.

The same thing happened to him in the VFL, seems to have a landing problem.

[jackaub 1,402]

Bloody Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

Clark has twinged a Hammy, Dawes recovering from surgey and now Hogan with a knee of some sort. I wonder how Fitzy is travelling

Fitz didnt train Or I didnt see him was there for about the last hour. I saw Hogan landed awkwardly and jarred his knee Dont think it is so bad

[jackaub 1,402]

No need to back-track. Nobody has spoken about anything apart from Hogan.

Jamar spent the whole session leaning on the fence bouncing a ball

[rjay 23,923]

Just wondering if anyone has seen Christian Salem at training. I heard tonight from a fairly reliable source that he has been diagnosed with a thyroid condition & will be on a moderated & limited training program? Anyone else heard this .

There might be something to this. At training the other day I noticed that Salem was talking quietly to one of the training staff on the boundary (don't know if it was doctor or physio) to do with how he was feeling and his effort levels. It was then that he pulled out of general training, I thought at first it was some kind of injury but then he did a little bit of running with no obvious discomfort.

They were definitely talking about something specific so something like this makes sense.

[Moonshadow 16,237]

Just wondering if anyone has seen Christian Salem at training. I heard tonight from a fairly reliable source that he has been diagnosed with a thyroid condition & will be on a moderated & limited training program? Anyone else heard this.

Anymore detail about the thyroid condition deestar3? Glandular fever?

[Apocalypse XXXI 243]

Wasn't it a thyroid that virtually ruined the start of Troy Davis' first season after we drafted him?

[Deestar3 167]

Apparently his father also suffers from the same condition - he had fainted at training so will be on a modified program whilst they work it all out. This info came from the parent of a draftee who is from melb but has gone interstate so they know him well. But again it is just second hand info..

[Machsy 2,858]

AmazIng the amount of injuries we have had since Dave Misson came to the club

REALLY?

Don't you remember the pre-Misson era?

[DeeSpencer 23,188]

Anymore detail about the thyroid condition deestar3? Glandular fever?

Glandular fever isn't a thyroid condition. More likely he either has hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid) which would leave him feeling very lethargic or hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid) which would make him anxious and jittery. Neither would be very compatible with your first AFL preseason. Both are usually treatable with medication but it's often not all that easy to find the right balance straight away. Hence a modified program would make a lot of sense.

Wasn't it a thyroid that virtually ruined the start of Troy Davis' first season after we drafted him?

Yes I believe it was. I'm not sure if it's something they screen players for or not pre draft. But I could imagine that players could be healthy pre draft and then the increased load of a big preseason could knock around their bodies and trigger illness.