This is mentioned elsewhere and contradicts the post above. This is the obvious place for discussion on the subject matter - West Coast star Luke Shuey attracts plenty of interest from Victorian-based clubs

Collingwood appears to be the frontrunner but our pick 2 and the fact that there's a prominent place in Melbourne's midfield for a player like Shuey.

I haven't followed him a great deal but this was interesting -

Shuey has played 66 games for the Eagles since being drafted at pick 18 in the 2008 national draft.

He had a brilliant 2012 season but could muster only 14 games this season due to nagging hamstring issues.

What do people think of pick 2 and a player for Shuey and West Coast's pick 8?

This is mentioned elsewhere and contradicts the post above. This is the obvious place for discussion on the subject matter - West Coast star Luke Shuey attracts plenty of interest from Victorian-based clubs

Collingwood appears to be the frontrunner but our pick 2 and the fact that there's a prominent place in Melbourne's midfield for a player like Shuey.

I haven't followed him a great deal but this was interesting -

Shuey has played 66 games for the Eagles since being drafted at pick 18 in the 2008 national draft.

He had a brilliant 2012 season but could muster only 14 games this season due to nagging hamstring issues.

What do people think of pick 2 and a player for Shuey and West Coast's pick 8?

WHERE DO WE SIGN?!!!!!

This is mentioned elsewhere and contradicts the post above. This is the obvious place for discussion on the subject matter - West Coast star Luke Shuey attracts plenty of interest from Victorian-based clubs

Collingwood appears to be the frontrunner but our pick 2 and the fact that there's a prominent place in Melbourne's midfield for a player like Shuey.

I haven't followed him a great deal but this was interesting -

Shuey has played 66 games for the Eagles since being drafted at pick 18 in the 2008 national draft.

He had a brilliant 2012 season but could muster only 14 games this season due to nagging hamstring issues.

What do people think of pick 2 and a player for Shuey and West Coast's pick 8?

I think we'll struggle to get their first rounder back WJ unless we hand over a decent player ourselves. A Blease, Tapscott, Strauss etc type won't get it done and I'm not sure what else we would be happy to part with otherwise. If Sylvia was still under contract then I'd be happy to offer him to go with it but, obviously, we can't.

I think Pick 2 and our third rounder for Shuey and their second rounder might be something that could get it done.

Make no mistake though - we are in the box seat in terms of what we can offer the Eagles. The Pies may be more desirable but I think he is someone we can get over the line if he wants to come home and if the Eagles are willing to trade him.

I think we'll struggle to get their first rounder back WJ unless we hand over a decent player ourselves. A Blease, Tapscott, Strauss etc type won't get it done and I'm not sure what else we would be happy to part with otherwise. If Sylvia was still under contract then I'd be happy to offer him to go with it but, obviously, we can't.

I tend to agree but I'd like to see us try to do it in such a way that we get a quality mid and retain a decent first round pick. Perhaps I'm trying to have my cake and eat it but I think its important that we get maximum scope for improvement in this draft. We only have Roos for 2 - 3 years and we need to stop the bleeding you get at the club from consistently getting blown off the park.

I tend to agree but I'd like to see us try to do it in such a way that we get a quality mid and retain a decent first round pick. Perhaps I'm trying to have my cake and eat it but I think its important that we get maximum scope for improvement in this draft. We only have Roos for 2 - 3 years and we need to stop the bleeding you get at the club from consistently getting blown off the park.

Agree 100%. The only stumbling block is finding a player the Eagles want to go with the Pick. They don't really need any talls, we have no midfielders to give them and they are pretty set down back as well. Unless they see some real potential in Blease or Strauss or someone like that then I think we'll find it tough.

But you are spot on in that we need to stop the bleeding and be as active as we can while Roos is on board. If we can trade pick 2 for a great midfielder (whoever that is if it's not Shuey) and somehow stay inside the first round of the draft then it's a win for the club.

What do people think of pick 2 and a player for Shuey and West Coast's pick 8?

Would not happen. Giving up an extremely promising midfielder for a 6 pick upgrade would be laughable list management. Pick 2 is overs due to his injury history preventing him being on the park, but when he is there he produces more often than not. He is explosive and breaks lines.

If we were to get him via trade, it would be Pick 2 for Shuey and either their 2nd or 3rd round pick.

2 and 21 for Shuey and 8?

I hate when I spitball. Gets my hopes up...

Shuey for pick 2 and I'm happy. Class ball user and ball winner.

Only concern is injuries and therefor you could justify a sweetner on the trade, maybe our 3rd round pick for their second round pick could work.

But right now I'd take the straight swap. If Shuey is strong enough on coming home in 2015 then the eagles would have to consider our offer of pick 2 because they are unlikely to get a better one when he's out of contract and they lose the leverage.

I think we'll struggle to get their first rounder back WJ unless we hand over a decent player ourselves.

We already handed over Cale Morton, what more could they want?

Cale Morton and Jamie Bennell surely they owe us now after killing us there

Jamie Bennell will be okay.

Wouldnt rule out 3 club trade in order to get 2 good young mids with 4-5 yrs experience (what mfc has said they wanted) with our pick 2. A lot of chatter still happening on the hawks after darling side of things.

Maybe something like this. Could also involve further swapping of picks

WCE get dees 1st pick & hawks 1st pick

Hawks get darling

Dees get shuey & savage

Jamie Bennell will be okay.

You have mentioned that this is the delisting that has left you uncomfortable, but it believe that young Jamie will continue to tease and tantalise and never put in a consistent game.

Interesting to see how next year unfolds for him.

Edited October 5, 201311 yr by jumbo returns

These days players nearly always get to their club of choice. While we're certainly best placed to satisfy West Coast's demands should Shuey decide to head home, I feel we need to convince him that Melbourne is the club to entertain. Collingwood are losing Thomas, Jolly and Shaw, so we may not be able to pay him more. So why would he choose Melbourne ? I actually can't think of a genuine reason, as his loyalty as a child will be long gone.

If I was Roos I'd be knocking on his door and selling his vision. Roos is probably our best/only hope.

Wouldnt rule out 3 club trade in order to get 2 good young mids with 4-5 yrs experience (what mfc has said they wanted) with our pick 2. A lot of chatter still happening on the hawks after darling side of things.

Maybe something like this. Could also involve further swapping of picks

WCE get dees 1st pick & hawks 1st pick

Hawks get darling

Dees get shuey & savage

This seems like a win-win scenario all round. WCE get three first round picks for the loss of a forward and a midfielder, the Hawks get a power forward to replace Buddy for the loss of a late first round pick and we get two quality midfileders whilst retaining our two early second round picks for giving up pick two. Seems OK for us and West Coast, just hope that Hawthiorn feels the same way.

Wouldnt rule out 3 club trade in order to get 2 good young mids with 4-5 yrs experience (what mfc has said they wanted) with our pick 2. A lot of chatter still happening on the hawks after darling side of things.

Maybe something like this. Could also involve further swapping of picks

WCE get dees 1st pick & hawks 1st pick

Hawks get darling

Dees get shuey & savage

I know we need midfielders but giving West Coke or Filthy pies our pick 2 eats away at my guts. Last thing we need is to assist those powerhouses even stronger onfield.

Wouldnt rule out 3 club trade in order to get 2 good young mids with 4-5 yrs experience (what mfc has said they wanted) with our pick 2. A lot of chatter still happening on the hawks after darling side of things.

Maybe something like this. Could also involve further swapping of picks

WCE get dees 1st pick & hawks 1st pick

Hawks get darling

Dees get shuey & savage

West Coast would never agree to that trade, it would rip the heart out of their club, they would lose their best young forward and best young midfielder

This seems like a win-win scenario all round. WCE get three first round picks for the loss of a forward and a midfielder, the Hawks get a power forward to replace Buddy for the loss of a late first round pick and we get two quality midfileders whilst retaining our two early second round picks for giving up pick two. Seems OK for us and West Coast, just hope that Hawthiorn feels the same way.

Sorry disagree why would would west coast trade to prooven stars for two unknown potentiol stars hawks and dees massive winners. Cant see this happening imo

Would seriously not want us to use pick 2 on Shuey. We need inside midfielders!

Would seriously not want us to use pick 2 on Shuey. We need inside midfielders!

What do you think shuey is... do your reserch!

Edited October 6, 201311 yr by dazzledavey36

Would seriously not want us to use pick 2 on Shuey. We need inside midfielders!

Have you actually watched him play? He has no problem winning his own ball.

These days players nearly always get to their club of choice. While we're certainly best placed to satisfy West Coast's demands should Shuey decide to head home, I feel we need to convince him that Melbourne is the club to entertain. Collingwood are losing Thomas, Jolly and Shaw, so we may not be able to pay him more. So why would he choose Melbourne ? I actually can't think of a genuine reason, as his loyalty as a child will be long gone.

If I was Roos I'd be knocking on his door and selling his vision. Roos is probably our best/only hope.

That's exactly it - Roos is our selling point.

However, I don't think we're that far behind in other facets, it's just that we are behind.

We need Roos at his charismatic best.

The other thing we may have going for us, is getting on the front foot early and sniffing these deals out.

I always feel like Collingwood hears a whisper another team has had the crowbar out and pried loose a player, then they swoop in after the hard work is done. Fine if they are way ahead as first choice, but in a close race it can make a difference.

As for WJ's trade scenario, I think that's not too bad, and we could see a kid like Kent or Evans going back the other way.

I'd be loathe to lose one of them, but it's the price you pay to bring in developed talent.

The medical staff better thoroughly check those hammies!

Would seriously not want us to use pick 2 on Shuey. We need inside midfielders!

Are you thinking of Gaff? Who is more a outside player?

These days players nearly always get to their club of choice. While we're certainly best placed to satisfy West Coast's demands should Shuey decide to head home, I feel we need to convince him that Melbourne is the club to entertain. Collingwood are losing Thomas, Jolly and Shaw, so we may not be able to pay him more. So why would he choose Melbourne ? I actually can't think of a genuine reason, as his loyalty as a child will be long gone.

If I was Roos I'd be knocking on his door and selling his vision. Roos is probably our best/only hope.

Paul Roos can try and sell his vision although at the end of the day it will come down to a big contract.

We have to hope that we can bring in enough midfield talent this year so come next year we will be much improved and won't have to throw bags of cash at players.

But yer Paul Roos and a bag of cash are our only hope.

If it accounts for anything, I had a dream I worked for the MFC and traded pick 2 for Luke Shuey before he was ever mentioned as a possible get.. Usually my dreams weirdly are a reliable source to predict the future, take of it what you will.

Lucky it was a dream, because it's been mentioned for quite a while as a possible get.