The Split - AFL Endorsed Ticket or The Stockdale Ticket

[beelzebub 23,200]

one ticket is really no ticket at all, its just a list of appointments

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Let's hope.

He can be involved for all I care.

But I want one ticket to be ratified in October and for it to be AFL endorsed.

I can't see a better way out of our current mire than a path with AFL support.

To be fair he is entitled to stand.

His statements to date for mine have been completely uninspiring. At this stage I will be shopping for the AFL approved merchandise. How can you bring out a plan for the football club that fails to mention the word football.

[Guest]

The Stockdale ticket is the final wail of a dying beast. These establishment types who can only see the football club as a money making venture have taken us to our current morass and they see their grip on the football club slipping. Therefore they then throw out this bs board ticket to suck in people to get what they feel is their birthright.

As I have said before (I'm starting to sound like Deeluded and his ranting about the MCG and the social club!), we have picked the same kind of blokes over and over again and we get nowhere (Jim and Joe aside). Stockdale is the epitome of the crusty, conservative rich white men who have danced on the grave of our club for the benefit of their own ego. They have lost the moral authority to run our club. When Stockdale says the 'members' have lost their right to have a say in how the club is run what he is really saying is 'But Mummy told me the football club was MINE!' (said in my best Prince George voice from Blackadder).

Secondly, Stockdale mentioned a little bit about us not having won a flag in 50 years but far as I can tell, he only sees our future success as being driven by what marketing strategy or membership campaign we may wish to undertake. I want someone like PJ who has put time lines on our onfield performance (i.e. we will be up and about in 1-2 years as he said during 'On the Couch') .

And finally, isn't ironic who he has chosen for the board? Two blokes from companies who directly profited during his time in government in Victoria (TabCorp and Metro) and another from a sector that is a natural ally of the Liberal party (corporate lawyers).

Edited July 31, 2013 by Guest

[beelzebub 23,200]

All i really want out of this is to see ( or rather hear ) what the visions and methods are of those who seek to run this place.

If nothing else Stockdales antics might flush out some utterings from the supposed heir apparent Bartlett. I have no real problem with him GB ( as I do with the other, AS ) but It should still be beholding upon these people to outline the what, and how, of their way forward.

im just a little over being a mushroom.

[John Crow Batty 8,787]

The Stockdale ticket is the final wail of a dying beast. These establishment types who can only see the football club as a money making venture have taken us to our current morass and they see their grip on the football club slipping. Therefore they then throw out this bs board ticket to suck in people to get what they feel is their birthright.

As I have said before (I'm starting to sound like Deeluded and his ranting about the MCG and the social club!), we have picked the same kind of blokes over and over again and we get nowhere (Jim and Joe aside). Stockdale is the epitome of the crusty, conservative rich white men who have danced on the grave of our club for the benefit of their own ego. They have lost the moral authority to run our club. When Stockdale says the 'members' have lost their right to have a say in how the club is run what he is really saying is 'But Mummy told me the football club was MINE!' (said in my best Prince George voice from Blackadder).

Secondly, Stockdale mentioned a little bit about us not having won a flag in 50 years but far as I can tell, he only sees our future success as being driven by what marketing strategy or membership campaign we may wish to undertake. I want someone like PJ who has put time lines on our onfield performance (i.e. we will be up and about in 1-2 years as he said during 'On the Couch') .

And finally, isn't ironic who he has chosen for the board? Two blokes from companies who directly profited during his time in government in Victoria (TabCorp and Metro) and another from a sector that is a natural ally of the Liberal party (corporate lawyers).

The members and supporters did have a big say recently and they still do though maybe not through official protocols. MacLardy said so himself as one of the reasons Schwab left was because he lost the supporters. A vote was not necessary. Given our perilous financial state Stockdale has also failed to outline where his money shot is going to come from.

Edited July 31, 2013 by america de cali

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

Hey BB59 relax mate. I heard all i need to know on monday night from PJ.

[beelzebub 23,200]

Hey BB59 relax mate. I heard all i need to know on monday night from PJ.

Did you...thats nice

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

Did you...thats nice

you are not going to hear anything new from Stockers.

[beelzebub 23,200]

you are not going to hear anything new from Stockers.

no...and I agree...But it'd be nice if he forces other hands...thats my thinking

[Whispering_Jack 29,246]

Alan Stockdale's programme suggests he wants to "unite the club". I agree that this is of utmost importance but if he wants to convince me that he's our man then he'll need to explain how he plans to do this given that in his previous involvement with the club, he was instrumental in the overthrow of Joe Gutnick which led to a long period of instability and disunity that resulted in the installation of the Szondy regime and we know what happened under him.

It also worries me that his platform talks of working with the CEO despite mention in this morning's Herald Sun Former state treasurer Alan Stockdale has revealed his plan to save Melbourne of "at least one combative meeting between the pair in recent weeks."

Although, I would prefer it if my club was independent of the AFL, I don't think we're in a position to risk its assistance package or potential priority pick or other forms of draft assistance by defying the AFL.

Forgive me but ATM, I'm a sceptic about Stockers. I need a lot of convincing.

[beelzebub 23,200]

youre not alone WJ..but that not be his only value

[autocol 448]

Did Rangey deputise you RPFC !!

He can't have done that, because the wording of the poll is not heavily loaded to skew the results in Rangey's favour.

[beelzebub 23,200]

He can't have done that, because the wording of the poll is not heavily loaded to skew the results in Rangey's favour.

wasnt far from it

[John Crow Batty 8,787]

Hmm........ Almost 98% in favour of Jackson on the votes. Thses are numbers only dictators. get.

[old dee 23,505]

Hmm........ Almost 98% in favour of Jackson on the votes. Thses are numbers only dictators. get.

It is a two horse race and look at the other horse!

[John Crow Batty 8,787]

It is a two horse race and look at the other horse!

is it dead?

[beelzebub 23,200]

Hmm........ Almost 98% in favour of Jackson on the votes. Thses are numbers only dictators. get.

lol

[Biffen 12,846]

I really like the AFL at the moment.

They are doing a terrific job with the competition.

I really hope we get our act together soon with all the money they want to give us.

They really are a wonderful bunch of guys.

Does anyone still think we should have stood up to the afl re tanking?

Watching James Hird drag himself through the mud makes me think McLardy did the smart thing by saying "oK ,we did tank a little bit".

Essendon will get torn a new ring and we will be fluffed up with manpower and money.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,066]

I really like the AFL at the moment.

They are doing a terrific job with the competition.

I really hope we get our act together soon with all the money they want to give us.

They really are a wonderful bunch of guys.

Does anyone still think we should have stood up to the afl re tanking?

Watching James Hird drag himself through the mud makes me think McLardy did the smart thing by saying "oK ,we did tank a little bit".

Essendon will get torn a new ring and we will be fluffed up with manpower and money.

This is interesting Biff. How much worse is doing drugs compared to "tanking". Surely there is much more "disrepute" in syringes? Dumbetriou didn't want any more [censored] on his watch. Well he has it and the golden boy is involved. I get a fat everytime i think about the possible consequences Essendrug will cop.

[John Crow Batty 8,787]

This is interesting Biff. How much worse is doing drugs compared to "tanking". Surely there is much more "disrepute" in syringes? Dumbetriou didn't want any more [censored] on his watch. Well he has it and the golden boy is involved. I get a fat everytime i think about the possible consequences Essendrug will cop.

Essendon should now be renamed ST JAMES INFIRMARY after the sad classic blues song. Hird will have six substance shooters as his pall bearers.

[old dee 23,505]

is it dead?

Not quite still giving the occasional kick.

But I hope it only has a few more days

[dee-luded 2,959]

I find it funny that Stockdale's main issue is governance when his mob tipped out elected council officials and put in administrators. Good or bad thing I'm not going to argue but the government at the time thought the councils where unable to run themselves. Same now. The AFL believes, with good reason that the MFC hasn't been able to run itself properly. The record would show they are correct, I'm not sure many would disagree.

Forget it Alan, the people don't seem to be with you on this one.

.... & they he? threw out the popularly elected State Liberal Leader (Ted Baillieu) without referring back to the Victorian voters...

& they've given us the pleasure of leaders of the likes of napthine, doyle, napthine again??? whattha

[beelzebub 23,200]

This is interesting Biff. How much worse is doing drugs compared to "tanking". Surely there is much more "disrepute" in syringes? Dumbetriou didn't want any more [censored] on his watch. Well he has it and the golden boy is involved. I get a fat everytime i think about the possible consequences Essendrug will cop.

whats worse...

WADA over see drugs.... Laughing larry and his weekend warrior wannabes look after the AFL

do the maths

[Return to Glory 8,250]

This is interesting Biff. How much worse is doing drugs compared to "tanking". Surely there is much more "disrepute" in syringes? Dumbetriou didn't want any more [censored] on his watch. Well he has it and the golden boy is involved. I get a fat everytime i think about the possible consequences Essendrug will cop.

Couldn't agree more BBO. I'm praying for it to be a never ending saga with revelation upon revelation.

[Biffen 12,846]

Couldn't agree more BBO. I'm praying for it to be a never ending saga with revelation upon revelation.

That's the Bible.

This is the De-frocked Saint James Bible Revised,By Jobe.