Sylvia now an unrestricted FA

[hardtack 10,187]

If he leaves, I could see it being to a club like Collingwood, but only if someone like Daisy Thomas is on his way out of the door...hopefully on his way to the MFC.

[rpfc 27,692]

I always thoguht he was a FA - I do my own Contracts thread - oddly enough the AFL do half arsed jobs constantly on things like this...

And FA itself isn't the end for 'smaller' clubs - it can help smaller clubs if they are smart.

It aides smart clubs, regardless of size.

[nutbean 8,837]

Bet you he'll have a great year and then leave us. Or have a great year, stay, and then play terrible again.

or stay with us..have a terrible year ..and still stay with us

[stuie 7,374]

If he leaves it will be finals you dimwit,you are a very slow witted man.

Yeah cos he's shown his interest in footy success through the years.... Fool.

[nutbean 8,837]

Worst post I've ever read. If he walks it's because we won't match a larger offer from another club (Moloney, Rivers ring a bell?). Other clubs rate him highly because they know his talent and know he's coming from MFC where that talent would not have been harnessed properly.

not sure about Moloney but I believe Rivers is being paid less at Geelong than he was being paid on his last contract with us - we put a significantly smaller contract on the table in front of him - and with Moloney's form I would be gobsmacked if he is on the same money as his last contract at Melbourne.

So with Rivers we didnt match a larger offer because our offer was piddling to start with. With Moloney, I dont believe we even made an offer - he said he was off to explore free agency, we said fine, he said this is what I have been offered and we said cya !

[alias275 259]

Yeah Col has been a fav of mine for many years, but I really cannot see the value in keeping him.

You must be "blind freddy" if you haven't already worked out that other clubs can get more out of these talented players than us. But we just have to work with what we've got. So if that is recruiting established players from others clubs like Daisy, then we need to free up the room to fit them in.

"It's time to go ....... Colin Sylvia"

[stuie 7,374]

not sure about Moloney but I believe Rivers is being paid less at Geelong than he was being paid on his last contract with us - we put a significantly smaller contract on the table in front of him - and with Moloney's form I would be gobsmacked if he is on the same money as his last contract at Melbourne.

So with Rivers we didnt match a larger offer because our offer was piddling to start with. With Moloney, I dont believe we even made an offer - he said he was off to explore free agency, we said fine, he said this is what I have been offered and we said cya !

Yeah the Moloney one I think we probably said we're offering $0, so technically Brisbane would have offered more money! You're right with the Rivers one though, might be on less money.

[Bossdog 2,002]

I think people are a bit hard on Col

2011 he was

5th in kicks

5th in handballs

5th in handballs received

2nd in tackles

2nd in inside 50's

2nd in hard ball gets

Kicked 25 goals

Played in 19 games

2012 he had a severe back injury just prior to the season which limited him in a lot of ways....Plus playing in a sub standard mid field with a new game plan.......Cut him some slack....

[rjay 24,197]

Yeah Col has been a fav of mine for many years, but I really cannot see the value in keeping him.

You must be "blind freddy" if you haven't already worked out that other clubs can get more out of these talented players than us. But we just have to work with what we've got. So if that is recruiting established players from others clubs like Daisy, then we need to free up the room to fit them in.

"It's time to go ....... Colin Sylvia"

I must be blind but where are all these talented ex demons that are ripping it up at other clubs?

[olisik 4,060]

I must be blind but where are all these talented ex demons that are ripping it up at other clubs?

Ill start with

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-19/moloney-has-lion-midfield-roaring-adcock

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-01/petterd-rejuvenated-in-tiger-defence

[rjay 24,197]

Ill start with

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-19/moloney-has-lion-midfield-roaring-adcock

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-01/petterd-rejuvenated-in-tiger-defence

They haven't played a game yet...

It's all Micky Mouse at the moment, the last ones who were ripping it up have been delisted, couldn't get a game and or retired (Buckley, Bruce, McDonald, Maric for starters). So many bemoaned the loss of Buckley when he was getting a kick at the Pies but where is he now????

Some will go on and play good footy elsewhere but the players we have had recently are just not good enough, it's why we are where we are on the ladder. Poor recruiting, poor players...the real gems come from good clubs, players that can't get a regular game like the Kennedy's of this world.

Moloney is yet to deal with a tag at his new club and we all know how well he handles that, if Black gets back it may help him. If he does that this year well and good but it's hardly an avalanche of ex demons ripping it up.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

No wonder the AFL got his FA status wrong. He apparently doesn't exist at AFL HQ. After all, how many times have players from opposing clubs escaped match review penalties for 'collisions' with this invisible man?

[CatFishPig 435]

They haven't played a game yet...

It's all Micky Mouse at the moment, the last ones who were ripping it up have been delisted, couldn't get a game and or retired (Buckley, Bruce, McDonald, Maric for starters). So many bemoaned the loss of Buckley when he was getting a kick at the Pies but where is he now????

Some will go on and play good footy elsewhere but the players we have had recently are just not good enough, it's why we are where we are on the ladder. Poor recruiting, poor players...the real gems come from good clubs, players that can't get a regular game like the Kennedy's of this world.

Moloney is yet to deal with a tag at his new club and we all know how well he handles that, if Black gets back it may help him. If he does that this year well and good but it's hardly an avalanche of ex demons ripping it up.

olisik -

Moloney cracked the sads when we wasn't in the leadership group. Then didn't want to play for the team.. He decided his own destiny.. He is a [censored] anyways..

Petterd was unlucky not to show his best, injuries played a part.. But still he must of not shown the commitment he needed to show for Neeld to keep him.

You must have faith in the FD that they keep the right players go.. We are not the only club to have players leave, only to go on and play good footy.

[Weedster 174]

Would appreciate somebody enlightening me on this. As far as I can tell, I'm with Bayside Dave. Won't free agency be terrible for the smaller clubs? One more nail... We'll lose our senior players because they'll go somewhere to give themselves a shot at a flag. I wouldn't miss Sylvia but I'm missing Rivers already. Every club needs those aging champions to provide leadership.

Too right - this is a godsend for the bigger clubs - they can just cherry pick to fill gaps - a la Goddard, and to a lssser extent Rivers. What incentive is there for a big fish to join a smaller / unsuccessful club ? None !

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,650]

Bet you he'll have a great year and then leave us. Or have a great year, stay, and then play terrible again.

I bet he has a stinker of a year, does a Moloney by throwing the toys out of the cot and switching clubs, and have a blinder of a 2014.

[Little Richard 5,943]

I've never had much faith in Sylvia and combining that with very little show of heart regarding the club, I think he will go.

And I actually think there will be a number of clubs interested in him as I believe part of the reason he has so much unfulfilled potential is because of a lack of strong personalities and leaders around him.

[Bossdog 2,002]

I bet he has a stinker of a year, does a Moloney by throwing the toys out of the cot and switching clubs, and have a blinder of a 2014.

I don't think Col has ever said anything against the club or his team mates .....Maybe it's the supporters that spit the dummy......How do you reckon that he will do a "Moloney".....He has never said that he wants to leave and has never held the club to ransom over previous contracts.....

[Bossdog 2,002]

I've never had much faith in Sylvia and combining that with very little show of heart regarding the club, I think he will go.

And I actually think there will be a number of clubs interested in him as I believe part of the reason he has so much unfulfilled potential is because of a lack of strong personalities and leaders around him.

See stats in previous post.....When not injured his stats are not as bad as you think....

[Little Richard 5,943]

See stats in previous post.....When not injured his stats are not as bad as you think....

I don't think he is a bad player at all - I actually think he has the potential to be a gun but he just doesn't do it and surely after 10 years he's had enough chances, so I wouldn't be overly fussed if he went.

[jnrmac 19,508]

I think people are a bit hard on Col

2011 he was

5th in kicks

5th in handballs

5th in handballs received

2nd in tackles

2nd in inside 50's

2nd in hard ball gets

Kicked 25 goals

Played in 19 games

2012 he had a severe back injury just prior to the season which limited him in a lot of ways....Plus playing in a sub standard mid field with a new game plan.......Cut him some slack....

Really? Hard? Tenth year and he has never finished in the top 5 in the B& F. Tells you what the various footy departments over the year think of his efforts.

You want slack? You really do accept mediocrity don't you.

Laziest footballer on our list.

[Allen Jakovich 516]

Sylvia will re-sign early in the year. Thankfully.

[Roost It 1,434]

We need Sylvia to play well and remain a Demon. We are thin enough for talent as it is.

[old dee 23,256]

Really? Hard? Tenth year and he has never finished in the top 5 in the B& F. Tells you what the various footy departments over the year think of his efforts.

You want slack? You really do accept mediocrity don't you.

Laziest footballer on our list.

Try as I might Jnr I am finding it hard to disagree

[Jens Lehmann 75]

I wouldn't be surprised if the club happily let him go out the door.

And stuey, you're making a fool of yourself again.

Both Moloney and Rivers left for less money.

[old dee 23,256]

We need Sylvia to play well and remain a Demon. We are thin enough for talent as it is.

Don't hold your breath Roost it.

After nine years what gives you confidence it will happen in 2013?