Nine Days in the Top End

[Ouch! 2,269]

I hope they don't all lose 6-10kgs. That would be a disaster for Watts in particular. But also Fitz, Gawn etc....

That's what tends to happen in the high heat...

Just sayin...

Lucky we managed to offload Morton and Gysberts. they would have disappeared!

[BangkokDemon 96]

If i was single again I think a month in Bangkok would be beneficial.

Or at least a month on the islands.

Good luck to you Bangkok Demon-you lucky bastard.

Hahaha! I'm far from single and if I was to do that, I'd be looked upon as a "dirty old man"....remember I was there in '64 !!!

But yes. there are far worse places to live and far worse women to marry than those from Thailand!!

Go Dees!

Edited December 7, 2012 by BangkokDemon

[BangkokDemon 96]

Usually just fluid loss that picks back up quickly, have seen a lot of overweight northerners though.

That's due to the lack of training programs such as those being carried out by the guys now. If they lose some more puppy fat and replace it with good fat and muscle, a few recreational Darwin stubbies (not too many of course) should actually help...

[binman 44,533]

Funnily enough..........That is my real life nickname!!!

That's funny! I love storms and consider myself to be a bit of a storm boy myself. I've been to Asian in wet season a few times and nothing beats a good tropical storm Not yet been to Darwin but keen to go in the wet season.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

High altitude is all about blood thinning.

Training in heat will be about rehydration & recovery to go again.

Both have merit. Which style will win.

Neeld would be aware that he must have at least some success in 2013.

There's a lot easier way to thin your blood.

Try Warfarin or Aspirin.

[old dee 24,003]

There's a lot easier way to thin your blood.

Try Warfarin or Aspirin.

Chippy I am sorry to disagree with bb

however I believe that training at altitude is about increasing the amount of red blood cells in your system.

This increased level of red cells enables you to carry more oxygen and therefore increase your performance.

I think it has little to do with thinning your blood.

As you suggest pop an aspirin if you want thinner blood.

[bing181 9,425]

I think it has little to do with thinning your blood.

As you suggest pop an aspirin if you want thinner blood.

Or EPO if you want more red blood cells ...

[beelzebub 23,390]

Old.. I didnt say alt was about thinning blood

[old dee 24,003]

Old.. I didnt say alt was about thinning blood

Bow to your superior knowledge bb.

I was under the impression you need much more than a couple of weeks ( eg Collingwood and now others )

At altitude to get the desired result.

But hell mate I have not studied the subject so who knows.

My gut tells me it is more about team building than anything else.

[puntkick 325]

Top end Top spot if theyr'e for for a cuppla weeks trust testosterome levels controlled.

Trust Wonna can look after locals on pay day (females) Maybe fly in Liam as consultant ?

[McQueen 17,867]

They're not alone.Sounds like the 60,000 that went to Vietnam in the 60'sas well as the many more who went to Iraq & Afghanistan.So when you think about our players give a little thought to the guys and girls that didn't return from these foreign places.May they Rest in Peace. Lest we Forget.

Absolutely Chippy.

I'll also remember the difference between apples and oranges too.

[binman 44,533]

Top end Top spot if theyr'e for for a cuppla weeks trust testosterome levels controlled.

Trust Wonna can look after locals on pay day (females) Maybe fly in Liam as consultant ?

Is there a typo in your posting name?

[monoccular 17,642]

High altitude is all about blood thinning.

Training in heat will be about rehydration & recovery to go again.

Both have merit. Which style will win.

Neeld would be aware that he must have at least some success in 2013.

The altitude training is actually about blood thickening I believe

I am unsure of the physiological benefits of heat / humidity training, and whether they are long term or not, but I guess it may be a more realistic simulation of running around and getting exhausted on game day than the altitude stuff.

Possibly the 'blood thickening' effects of altitude ie increased oxygen carrying capacity (short lived I believe anyway, not a full season for certain) could even be a negative for burst type sports.

Our game is an interesting mixture of both.

Does anyone know if sprinters do the altitude thing or just endurance athletes??

[puntkick 325]

Is there a typo in your posting name?

Binman I congratulate you on being my first post respondent but due to my old age I simply don't understand your question !

[puntkick 325]

Is there a typo in your posting name?

[binman 44,533]

Binman I congratulate you on being my first post respondent but due to my old age I simply don't understand your question !

I was wondering why you 'liked' my response to your post.

[mauriesy 7,414]

I don't know just where in Colorado the others go, but Denver is at 5280 feet, lower than Kosiuszko, and I think that Falls Creek is about the same.

You can go up into the Rockies outside Denver and there are towns (e.g. Leadville) that are 10,000+ feet above sea level. Climax at 11,360 feet was once the highest settlement in the USA with the highest railway station. Peaks in the Colorado Rockies (e.g. Elbert, Massive) go up 14,400 feet and there is plenty of non-dangerous terrain well above 12,000 feet.

[stingrays 24]

Our top distance athletes of the 1960-70's used to train at Ferny Creek (in the Dandenongs) for the advantages of being 1500 ft (500 mts) above sea level

[binman 44,533]

Binman I congratulate you on being my first post respondent but due to my old age I simply don't understand your question !

Puntkick, I was suggesting that perhaps the word drop could be substituted for punt as your post was both borderline misogynist and racist. Perhaps it was not meant to be, i don't know. I was making a subtle joke rather than directly slamming your post. I realise you are a new poster so perhaps i should refrain from being obtuse.

[BangkokDemon 96]

Our top distance athletes of the 1960-70's used to train at Ferny Creek (in the Dandenongs) for the advantages of being 1500 ft (500 mts) above sea level

I was in a group who did that in the 80s when this sort of stuff was just starting. Ferny Creek was more the hills and rugged terrain than altitude if I recall. But in the summer time people such as the great Robert deCastella Chris Wardlaw and the then young Steve Monagetti would go to Falls Creek, not just for the hills, but also the altitude. I did this once myself.

The concept behind the altitude thing is that when you are up in the mountains your red cells increase as Old Dee mentioned. Then when you get back down to sea level, within a certain period of time the increased red cells are still present, so the flow of oxygen is better.

Deeks won the world champioship in Rotterdam doing this. Rotterdam being below sea level...or at least much of the course.

[puntkick 325]

I look forward to our future dialogue. Should I refer to you as Dustbin rather Binman ?

Have you lived there like i have ?

At 827 posts its like pouring shite on Watts Trengove etc etc !

[binman 44,533]

I look forward to our future dialogue. Should I refer to you as Dustbin rather Binman ?

Have you lived there like i have ?

At 827 posts its like pouring shite on Watts Trengove etc etc !

Refer to me however you like. There will be no further dialogue. You have joined an elite group of posters i have blocked (joining the other two). Bye bye.

[skills32 229]

Usually just fluid loss that picks back up quickly, have seen a lot of overweight northerners though.

It's called rehydrating except in Darwin it is done with beer because the bubbles replace the oxygen in your blood cells.

[stingrays 24]

I was in a group who did that in the 80s when this sort of stuff was just starting. Ferny Creek was more the hills and rugged terrain than altitude if I recall. But in the summer time people such as the great Robert deCastella Chris Wardlaw and the then young Steve Monagetti would go to Falls Creek, not just for the hills, but also the altitude. I did this once myself.

The concept behind the altitude thing is that when you are up in the mountains your red cells increase as Old Dee mentioned. Then when you get back down to sea level, within a certain period of time the increased red cells are still present, so the flow of oxygen is better.

Deeks won the world champioship in Rotterdam doing this. Rotterdam being below sea level...or at least much of the course.

Yeah. I was doing it with Ron Clarke, Tony Cook, John Kneen (lesser known but won the New York Marathon). Coach was a primary teacher, Frank McMahon. I remember Frank seeing De Castella as a 15yo at a Sunbury cross country meet (there were few houses then), and picked him straight off as a champ.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Just sayin...

just sayin what? that you know better than the highly-paid elite fitness people at the club?