Casey Scorpions v Williamstown

[KC from Casey 7,133]

Cook gets a lucky free 20 metres out in front and misses. It does however, give Casey its highest score of the current finals series.

[Sir Why You Little 37,310]

Melbourne Reserve side please.

[stuie 7,374]

Cook gets a lucky free 20 metres out in front and misses. It does however, give Casey its highest score of the current finals series.

So much depression in one sentence.

[KC from Casey 7,133]

Luke Thompson goals from a head high free. Casey 5.6.36 trail Willy 11.9.75.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Watching Michael Talia play on Cook...... One is a relative man mountain with wide shoulders and big arms, the other looks like he will be blown over in the strong winds.

Cook get the free, misses from 20 out in front....... hmmmmmm.

[beelzebub 23,390]

Cook gets a lucky free 20 metres out in front and misses. It does however, give Casey its highest score of the current finals series.

Hes Cooked for sure

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I don't see why the result of this game has people calling for a reserves side.

Collingwood have a reserves side but they don't even get to play because they missed the finals.

[stuie 7,374]

Let's be serious guys. Whoever our VFL team is, it's job is to develop MFC players. VFL results are irrelevant.

[KC from Casey 7,133]

The game's all over as is the season.

Casey Scorpions 0.0.0 1.4.10 3.4.22 5.8.38

Williamstown  3.3.21 4.6.30 9.8.62 11.9.75

Goals 

Casey Scorpions Gysberts Nicholls Sheahan Smith Thompson 

Williamstown Panos Veszpremi 3 Hill 2 Carr  Conway  Roberts 

Best

Casey Scorpions L Tynan Pollard Smith Sheahan Nicholls Gysberts

Williamstown Wall Jolley McNamara Goodes Carr Lockwood

[beelzebub 23,390]

well......that didnt take too long !!

[beelzebub 23,390]

Let's be serious guys. Whoever our VFL team is, it's job is to develop MFC players. VFL results are irrelevant.

From a Melbourne perspective I thoroughly agree. I can see however there might be a differing view from the other side of the fence.

I however follow Melbourne

[demoniac 1,337]

The VFL is essentially a development league. While Casey is aligned with the Dees their role is to develop Dees listed players and to provide VFL opportunities to talented young players from the outer south east of Melbourne.

I doubt Casey can survive as a stand alone VFL team. Their only viable future is as Dees and aligned VFL team with all footy appointments and recruiting decisions approved by the Dees. If there is resistance to that by people involved with Casey then we have to bite the bullet and fund our own standalone VFL team. And Casey can chance their arm as a standalone team.

We cannot compromise the development of our young players.

[stuie 7,374]

From a Melbourne perspective I thoroughly agree. I can see however there might be a differing view from the other side of the fence.

I however follow Melbourne

Same here. Got nothing against VFL footy, in fact there's a lot to like. But MFC is the first priority.

[stuie 7,374]

The VFL is essentially a development league. While Casey is aligned with the Dees their role is to develop Dees listed players and to provide VFL opportunities to talented young players from the outer south east of Melbourne.

I doubt Casey can survive as a stand alone VFL team. Their only viable future is as Dees and aligned VFL team with all footy appointments and recruiting decisions approved by the Dees. If there is resistance to that by people involved with Casey then we have to bite the bullet and fund our own standalone VFL team. And Casey can chance their arm as a standalone team.

We cannot compromise the development of our young players.

Aren't we signed to Casey for 30 years or something though? Or is that just the training base etc?

[daisycutter 29,892]

I can't see having our own standalone team would make one iota difference

you're all being over emotional

[stuie 7,374]

I can't see having our own standalone team would make one iota difference

you're all being over emotional

Reckon the only difference would be MFC would have less complaining to put up with in situations like this year when we pull players out. Oh, and the extra cash it would cost us...

No need to make the move IMO.

[Junior 46]

Aren't we signed to Casey for 30 years or something though? Or is that just the training base etc?

From memory there's an out clause every 5 years.

[Biffen 12,949]

I can't see having our own standalone team would make one iota difference

you're all being over emotional

I think a stong cup of chamomile and some deep breathing will help everyone here before they begin launching into the issues once again.

[rpfc 28,913]

So going out in straight sets with very few MFC players playing means we should forget about the alignment?

Do you people think before you post?

Honestly, I might have to start my 'list' again...

Note: Used to have a list of idiots in a thread...

[demoniac 1,337]

Reckon the only difference would be MFC would have less complaining to put up with in situations like this year when we pull players out. Oh, and the extra cash it would cost us...

No need to make the move IMO.

Victoria:

AFL Clubs with standalone VFL teams: Collingwood, Geelong

AFL Clubs committed to introducing standalone VFL teams: Essendon, Richmond

AFL Clubs with 100% controlled VFL Alignments: Hawthorn, Carlton

AFL Clubs with VFL alignment partnerships: Melbourne, North Melbourne, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs (v shaky with Willy looking enviously at standalone arch enemies Port)

Interstate

AFL clubs with standalone NEAFL teams: Sydney, Greater Western Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast

SA/WA AFL Clubs who want standalone teams in SANFL/WAFL: Adelaide, Port Adelaide, West Coast, Fremantle.

Nup having a standalone team that allows you to fully control the development of your players is not really that important...

Edited September 8, 2012 by demoniac

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Just rewatched the half time conversation regarding Cook and Gysberts.

The abc vfl commentators said following.

Donegan: "Melbourne coach Mark Neeld has just had a bit of a chat to us about the situation with Lucas Cook and Jordan Gysberts. It did appear in the papers throughout the week and he seemed pretty disappointed with what appeared."

Rhys Jobes: "Yeah, yeah and both boys are still on the list and that's good signs for them and ah let's hope they can stay on there and produce in the last quarter (Rhys Jones confused that its half time) cause Casey needs them at the moment."

[stuie 7,374]

Victoria:

AFL Clubs with standalone VFL teams: Collingwood, Geelong

AFL Clubs committed to introducing standalone VFL teams: Essendon, Richmond

AFL Clubs with 100% controlled VFL Alignments: Hawthorn, Carlton

AFL Clubs with VFL alignment partnerships: Melbourne, North Melbourne, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs (v shaky with Willy looking enviously at standalone arch enemies Port)

Interstate

AFL clubs with standalone NEAFL teams: Sydney, Greater Western Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast

SA/WA AFL Clubs who want standalone teams in SANFL/WAFL: Adelaide, Port Adelaide, West Coast, Fremantle.

Nup having a standalone team that allows you to fully control the development of your players is not really that important...

You really trying to suggest we don't control Casey after all the players we forced them to pull out before a semi final?.....

But no, you're right, it's not out poor drafting/development/coaching/resources/culture that has stopped us from being successful, it's all Casey's fault... lol

[demoniac 1,337]

You really trying to suggest we don't control Casey after all the players we forced them to pull out before a semi final?.....

But no, you're right, it's not out poor drafting/development/coaching/resources/culture that has stopped us from being successful, it's all Casey's fault... lol

No i was stating the obvious that current AFL best practice is a fully controlled development team.

[titan_uranus 25,176]

Disappointing end to the season for Casey, they'd had such a good year but to finish top 2 only to lose both finals and fall out in straight sets must be really heartbreaking for the Casey players.

Whether or not we should be fielding a standalone side, however, is a totally separate issue and has no bearing whatsoever on this result.

[Sir Why You Little 37,310]

I have no malice towards Casey, but i still see the top AFL clubs will all be stand alone within the next 2-3 years.

We need to be proactive on this.

Great effort by Brett Lovett this year.