Malthouse adventure will end in tears

[Flying Cloud 152]

If he gets Carlton a cup he will be the first to win premierships as coach at 3 different clubs. Barrassi tried, Allan Jeans tried, David Parkin tried - they coached 3 teams and won at 2. Charlie Ricketts, Dan Minogue, Malcolm Blight Norm Clark, Norm Smith, Percy Parratt, Robert Walls, Tom Hafey, coached at 3 or more and only one at one club each.

Of the 47 coaches who have coached the 105 premierships, he may be good, but he will have to beat history to win at a third club.

.....and if he takes 11 years at Carlton he will be 70 when he achieves it!

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

He needs to bring a key forward and key back with him. The Blues list make-up is their primary undoing.

yes, exactly thats why the hot mail is they are gunning for cloke and ben reid. malthouse wont leave any stone unturned.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

Or was it beacause we didnt have the nouse to get the best available candidate.

Anyone who still thinks that Malthouse was NOT available for the 2012 season is kidding themselves.

The fact that we did not get the best candidate available gives us an insight into why we do not have a winning culture.

For heavens sake, we did not even interview Malthouse for the position.

What person in their right mind would ever pick an untried apprentice over his master, especially when his master is at the peak of his abilities.

If you ever want to identify the root of our problems, just have a look at the people that hired Bailey over Sheedy, and Neeld over Malthouse.

Really, it is unbelieveable.

For the boards sake, Neeld better do well in 2013. It is hard to swallow this constantly silly decision making. It is like having G.W.Bush in charge of your army.

hahaha. you really have a boner for Neeld. Stop your hand wringing and let it play out. youre going to worry yourself to death.

[Sir Why You Little 37,130]

hahaha. you really have a boner for Neeld. Stop your hand wringing and let it play out. youre going to worry yourself to death.

Let's hope so...

[angrydee 842]

In his egomaniacal quest to be a 4 time premiership coach he will send the blues broke - and there are already players there who are very unhappy with his appointment. Can't wait for the fallout!

[45HG 1,559]

Breaking News: Carlton re-appoint Denis Pagan.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

You'd have to be kidding yourselves if you would rather Neeld than Malthouse, given the state of our list and the state of our club.

[bush demon 2,062]

Malthouse is in it for him; the chance to spite Collingwood, and what better way to do it than steal Ciollingwood's best player from under their noses a-la-T.S, and become a 3rd club premiership coach at C'wood's arch-enemy club. this is like professional [censored]-fighting, showcasing the inbred, incestuous nature of the old vfl. neither club will win out of this. mark it.

Ed: I meant 'male chook' fighting

Edited September 11, 2012 by bush demon

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

You'd have to be kidding yourselves if you would rather Neeld than Malthouse, given the state of our list and the state of our club.

I'm one who is kidding myself.

I'd rather the young hungry coach with something to prove, than a spiteful old hypocrite who may not have the hunger and who is doing it for the wrong reasons, ie. to shove it up Eddie.

[angrydee 842]

[censored] Carlton. They always win.

They got the master, we got his second rate apprentice.

PATHETIC post. This is the man who at the B&F said - I could never coach against you boys...

Give me Neeld any day

[beelzebub 23,383]

You'd have to be kidding yourselves if you would rather Neeld than Malthouse

Yep...kidding myself ( not ) Malthouse is a mercenary whos found a pot of gold for his retiremenmt. Good for him. Hes goig to a near ready made list that just needs tweaking. Easy peasy

Neeld is building a team and participating in the emergence of a sound , properly resourced and organised football dept.

Mouse wasnt available. Neeld was. deal with it

, given the state of our list and the state of our club.

and wtf is that supposed to mean Jaded , in the context of coaches. . What do yo think MM would be doing that MN isnt ?? Malthouse is not Merlin, theres no magic you understand.

Jaded, Im sorry, again whilst I understand your angst towards Carlton, please keep it so directed and leave any venom towards OUR club at the door

cheers

[monoccular 17,574]

If he gets Carlton a cup he will be the first to win premierships as coach at 3 different clubs. Barrassi tried, Allan Jeans tried, David Parkin tried - they coached 3 teams and won at 2. Charlie Ricketts, Dan Minogue, Malcolm Blight Norm Clark, Norm Smith, Percy Parratt, Robert Walls, Tom Hafey, coached at 3 or more and only one at one club each.

Of the 47 coaches who have coached the 105 premierships, he may be good, but he will have to beat history to win at a third club.

.....and if he takes 11 years at Carlton he will be 70 when he achieves it!

...and you can see the Tanking Cheating Chickenwingers hanging onto him for more than three or four years without a Premiership???? Not bleedin likely.

[Dee_Flower 53]

Hard to see how Malthouse will lose out of this, no matter what happens on the field. He gets $1 million per year; he gets to torment Eddie McGuire; he gets to have lunch with Jeannie Pratt. From his point of view, what's not to like? And if he succeeds at being the only coach to get flags at three clubs, which with Carlton's list and cheque book in the free agency era is far from impossible, he'll go down as the greatest coach ever.

[stinga81 210]

Every chance to coach them to a flag in the next 2-4 years, just need a decent key forward and tinker with the backline.

I'd love to have him at the Club, but it all comes down to timing 186 it seems came a year early! That being said, I don't mind having one of is highly rated assistants at the helm.

[george_on_the_outer 7,703]

The best part out of this whole deal is what happens at Carlton and Collingwood....

Carlton win a premiership under Malthouse = Collingwood not = Collingwood wrist slashing for getting rid of a Premiership coach, and stuck with Eddies love-child.

Carlton don't win a premiership = wrist slashing and sacking another coach.

all good as far as I can see.

[PaulRB 6,411]

Yep...kidding myself ( not ) Malthouse is a mercenary whos found a pot of gold for his retiremenmt. Good for him. Hes goig to a near ready made list that just needs tweaking. Easy peasy

Neeld is building a team and participating in the emergence of a sound , properly resourced and organised football dept.

Mouse wasnt available. Neeld was. deal with it

and wtf is that supposed to mean Jaded , in the context of coaches. . What do yo think MM would be doing that MN isnt ?? Malthouse is not Merlin, theres no magic you understand.

Jaded, Im sorry, again whilst I understand your angst towards Carlton, please keep it so directed and leave any venom towards OUR club at the door

cheers

I think Jaded can say what she wants, despite the fact others may disagree.

You've told her it's ok to express you venom toward Carlton, but you are not allowed to express your venom towards Melbourne.

Who appointed you "controller of the venom"?

The state of Melb these past couple of years is more worthy of a Melbourne supporters Venom than anything the Blues have done recently. And if Jaded want to have a swing at the MFC good luck to her. The club [censored] deserves it on recent performnces.

Edited September 11, 2012 by PaulRB

[Dee_Flower 53]

The best part out of this whole deal is what happens at Carlton and Collingwood....

Carlton win a premiership under Malthouse = Collingwood not = Collingwood wrist slashing for getting rid of a Premiership coach, and stuck with Eddies love-child.

Carlton don't win a premiership = wrist slashing and sacking another coach.

all good as far as I can see.

Unless they both win premierships.

[beelzebub 23,383]

I think Jaded can say what she wants, despite the fact others may disagree.

You've told her it's ok to express you venom toward Carlton, but you are not allowed to express your venom towards Melbourne.

Who appointed you "controller of the venom"?

The state of Melb these past couple of years is more worthy of a Melbourne supporters Venom than anything the Blues have done recently. And if Jaded want to have a swing at the MFC good luck to her. The club [censored] deserves it on recent performnces.

it smacked of a 5 yo not getting her lollies and having a tanty !!

[PaulRB 6,411]

So you're taking on the role of Jaded's daddy Belzebub?

So sweet ;-)

[Sir Why You Little 37,130]

I am happy with Mark Neeld and think he will do well.

But i would be Happier with Malthouse or Lyon.

[PaulRB 6,411]

A new coach is judged on anticipated success, an experienced coach is judged on their record.

If we'd recruited Lyon or Malthouse instead of Neeld, would they have been prepared to sacrifice their record/ego etc for the longer term gain of the MFC in the way Neeld has (i.e. strip the game plan, culture, etc... bare and start again)?

Experienced coaches are canny enough and, if successful, able to jump into teams that have already been renovated and just require a "coat of paint" to play finals (i.e. Freo and Blues). So it's no surprise that we didn't get Lyon and Malthouse, and the fact they avoided us implys they are not prepared to carry out the full renovation that the MFC required. That is, they are not the right coaches for the MFC at this stage.

I'm happy with Mark and don't rue not getting Mick, Ross, Paul, Lethal, etc... as while all of those have taken a team from the bottom of the ladder to the top (or near), they don't appear to want to do it again, prefering to get on a team halfway up the climb. And that indicates a hubris and lack of hunger that we already have plenty of at Melbourne.

Edited September 12, 2012 by PaulRB

[Sir Why You Little 37,130]

It all depends on how long the club can wait.

I remember when RDB went to North in ''73.

You could see it explode into gear overnight.

That is the injection we need in 2013.

The supporters have just copped so much.

[beelzebub 23,383]

It all depends on how long the club can wait.

I remember when RDB went to North in ''73.

You could see it explode into gear overnight.

That is the injection we need in 2013.

The supporters have just copped so much.

The crux was. North were able to take advantage of a newly created thing, the 10 year rule. That made them.

Neeld is looking to replicate things to some degree by making some advantage out of FA. Whether thats by the direct import of FA's or picking up pieces fronm its fallout..

Mouse will be looking to the market also but i sense they willbe top shelf buying where we'll be a bit more circumspect and looking for the bargains. Now sometimes bargains cost a lot too, just theyre cheaper than the market thought etc. Or theyre an odd size and discount bin etc.

Micks no fool. A 3 year cruise ( or is that Krueze ? ) then off to the media again. No dummy at all. He and Judd will probably see it out together .

[Face Your Demons 175]

The only one that wishes Malthouse was coaching Melbourne is Eddie.

[Sir Why You Little 37,130]

The crux was. North were able to take advantage of a newly created thing, the 10 year rule. That made them.

Neeld is looking to replicate things to some degree by making some advantage out of FA. Whether thats by the direct import of FA's or picking up pieces fronm its fallout..

Mouse will be looking to the market also but i sense they willbe top shelf buying where we'll be a bit more circumspect and looking for the bargains. Now sometimes bargains cost a lot too, just theyre cheaper than the market thought etc. Or theyre an odd size and discount bin etc.

Micks no fool. A 3 year cruise ( or is that Krueze ? ) then off to the media again. No dummy at all. He and Judd will probably see it out together .

Yes i know the 10 year rule. Very similar to FA actually.

Another crap year and this club could implode.

We must climb. There are no excuses.