Liam's trial next March

[pitmaster 3,561]

Age is reporting trial date set for March 12, to run for nine days.

[Parma 28]

Cannot see him on our list next season. Too flighty at the moment and too big a risk.

[old dee 23,792]

Is the end nigh?

[monoccular 17,431]

Bloody awful timing: may spell the death knoll, unless we can get some Ramanaskas type rookie deal or provisional listing of some sort from the AFL.

[Guest bluey]

Sure the jury will reach the right conclusion, would be shocked if they kept him on the list after his efforts this year.

[hardtack 10,547]

Bloody awful timing: may spell the death knoll, unless we can get some Ramanaskas type rookie deal or provisional listing of some sort from the AFL.

Why? I would have thought the timing was almost perfect. It means he can do a full pre-season and then, assuming he gets off with a fine or even better, with all charges dropped, he may not miss a game... he would even be available for most pre-season comp games (unless we made the final).

[sue 9,107]

Why? I would have thought the timing was almost perfect. It means he can do a full pre-season and then, assuming he gets off with a fine or even better, with all charges dropped, he may not miss a game... he would even be available for most pre-season comp games (unless we made the final).

I hope you are right, but it might be hard doing a serious tough pre-season with that looming over you.

[olgreydingo 51]

Could we put him back to the rookie list?

[old dee 23,792]

Why? I would have thought the timing was almost perfect. It means he can do a full pre-season and then, assuming he gets off with a fine or even better, with all charges dropped, he may not miss a game... he would even be available for most pre-season comp games (unless we made the final).

Ahh the power of positive thinking Hardtack

I think that the family issues are now way in front of playing AFL.

I have serious doubts we will see him in a red and blue jumper again.

[hardtack 10,547]

I hope you are right, but it might be hard doing a serious tough pre-season with that looming over you.

Maybe, but the glass half full (or should that be "fool") side of me says that a tough pre-season might be a blessing as it could help take his mind off such matters.

[old dee 23,792]

I hope you are right, but it might be hard doing a serious tough pre-season with that looming over you.

Agree Sue I might be very mistaken but it appears to me the family issues now far out weigh AFL

[hardtack 10,547]

Ahh the power of positive thinking Hardtack

I think that the family issues are now way in front of playing AFL.

I have serious doubts we will see him in a red and blue jumper again.

You may be right OD, but I suppose there is also the possibility that the family will be pushing him to continue his AFL career as it gives some hope and pride back to his community; maybe that's what they need in the circumstances.

[old dee 23,792]

You may be right OD, but I suppose there is also the possibility that the family will be pushing him to continue his AFL career as it gives some hope and pride back to his community; maybe that's what they need in the circumstances.

I hope you are right but do they look that far ahead?

Fairly confident our ways of viewing this situation does not apply to this community.

This is way too complex for me hardtack.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Maybe, but the glass half full (or should that be "fool") side of me says that a tough pre-season might be a blessing as it could help take his mind off such matters.

No reason why Liam can't use this preseason to prove a point. That's my opinion, but Tim Harrington may view things differently, as could Liam.

[PaulRB 6,367]

Liam will have to decide in lead up to the draft period if he is able to commit to a full pre-season.

The time being "given" to Liam to spend time with his family, is for him to have the space with his family to decide this, and presumably deal with some of the non-legal issues that have made it hard for him to fully focus on footy at the moment. Many players have trained well and played with legal cases looming, it's the other stuff.

Edited August 24, 2012 by PaulRB

[old dee 23,792]

Liam will have to decide in lead up to the draft period if he is able to commit to a full pre-season.

The time being "given" to Liam to spend time with his family, is for him to have the space with his family to decide this, and presumably deal with some of the non-legal issues that have made it hard for him to fully focus on footy at the moment. Many players have trained well and played with legal cases looming, it's the other stuff.

Sure is PaulRB

[Redleg 40,927]

Is the end nigh?

No !

[old dee 23,792]

No !

That's a very confident comment Redleg!

[beelzebub 23,378]

No !

do you know something ?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Liam will have to decide in lead up to the draft period if he is able to commit to a full pre-season.

The time being "given" to Liam to spend time with his family, is for him to have the space with his family to decide this, and presumably deal with some of the non-legal issues that have made it hard for him to fully focus on footy at the moment. Many players have trained well and played with legal cases looming, it's the other stuff.

The off field football stuff he is dealing with is broader than just his family. It involves his community.

He walked out on the Club for the rest of this year. Its ambitious to think a tough pre season is what he needs to address this. Red and blue goggles working overtime.

Who knows when his community issues will be resolved? I doubt it will be before the court case where the warring factions will face the judge.

At best he is a rookie but hopefully the Club knows the better options.

[daisycutter 29,616]

The off field football stuff he is dealing with is broader than just his family. It involves his community.

He walked out on the Club for the rest of this year. Its ambitious to think a tough pre season is what he needs to address this. Red and blue goggles working overtime.

Who knows when his community issues will be resolved? I doubt it will be before the court case where the warring factions will face the judge.

At best he is a rookie but hopefully the Club knows the better options.

Um, better than best? Do explain Rhino

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Um, better than best? Do explain Rhino

Shoulda send best Daisy, Shoulda said best. I actually think that rookie him is the better option.....than a whole host of others. But I dont all the facts the Club has but it does not look good.

[loges 6,767]

Don't understand why this news makes it any more less or more likely that he will be playing for us next year

[demons1964 3]

Family has always come ahead of his football for Liam which is common among most indigenous footballers; the fact is he is not able to return home where his family is for legal reasons. The club have given him time off to visit his family in Adelaide while his body heals up after a terrible run of injuries.

The club knows that the evidence given by several witnesses during his court hearing conflict with one another. As this is the case the charges against Liam are flimsy at best.

There is no full proof evidence to show him being delisted by us in the near future. The club knows it is in a good position with him otherwise they would have torn up his contract when initial allegations were made. The truth is he's had a horror year on the field and off it, all we can hope for is that by late March next year it is all behind him and his pre-season has been dominant.

[beelzebub 23,378]

well...Im going to adopt demons1964 outlook.. seems to have some merit.

crossed fingers and toes of course