2011 TRADES DISCUSSION

[Lutz 76]

Jordan Lisle has family connections at North and is a gimme to end up there.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Injury riddled and white line fever that provides plenty of MRP holidays.

Great when up and firing and could be a gun player....but isn't. Caveat emptor.

Yep, but he could be in a group of 2 - 3 Yr tall forwards that could help tide us over as we teach & develop our young talls. This Idea of an older key tall, helps us with some score board pressure and makes the kids have to fight harder for their spot, rather than a 'right of passage' situation, which can end up with the precious viewpoint of our recent past heroes from the past 10 Years. Putting themselves up like royalty above the club.

We need to get one of these, as we spend up on picks and $$$ to get our midfield beefed up.

[Juicebox 628]

We need experience and we need some solid bodies. Wouldn't mind seeing us have a crack at these guys:

Matt White - Tough mid/fwd who uses the ball well. Tigers in need of a ruckman or key defender and a deal could easily be struck.

Brendan Goddard - Needs no explanation as to how he can benefit us. Would have to give up something pretty special to get him.

Chris Masten - According to an article in the age he's considered to be 'trade potential'. Don't know what the asking price would be but he'd certainly be able to slot into our midfield. Doubt we have any chance of getting him.

Brian Lake - Experienced, big bodied and does like to spend time up forward. Doubt he'll leave, but if he does we could easily get him for very little.

[Neita3000 37]

We need experience and we need some solid bodies. Wouldn't mind seeing us have a crack at these guys:

Matt White - Tough mid/fwd who uses the ball well. Tigers in need of a ruckman or key defender and a deal could easily be struck.

Brendan Goddard - Needs no explanation as to how he can benefit us. Would have to give up something pretty special to get him.

Chris Masten - According to an article in the age he's considered to be 'trade potential'. Don't know what the asking price would be but he'd certainly be able to slot into our midfield. Doubt we have any chance of getting him.

Brian Lake - Experienced, big bodied and does like to spend time up forward. Doubt he'll leave, but if he does we could easily get him for very little.

Matt White? Really???

[Mono 454]

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Brian Lake - Experienced, big bodied and does like to spend time up forward. Doubt he'll leave, but if he does we could easily get him for very little.

How so. He's on huge coin at the bullies with 2 years of a contract to go. Doubt the bullies will pay much/any of it if he leaves.

(Besides which, I wouldn't go for him; he is basically a backman who can play forward on occasion. And too expensive.)

[Binmans PA 26,589]

Don't bother. I tried this last season, for Waite. No one wanted to know. He would have been perfect.

He would have been perfect? How many games did he play this season? He never stays on the park. Bad call, IMO.

[Juicebox 628]

How so. He's on huge coin at the bullies with 2 years of a contract to go. Doubt the bullies will pay much/any of it if he leaves.

(Besides which, I wouldn't go for him; he is basically a backman who can play forward on occasion. And too expensive.)

Matt White? Really???

I meant that we could get him for very little in the sense that we won't have to give up too high a quality player/draft pick to get him. He's experienced and that is something we're desperately lacked.

Matt White isn't exactly a player I'm hoping we'd get. But with Warnock wanting out I'd rather get a ready made player as opposed to a draft pick. Would add a bit of depth at the very least.

[Pennant St Dee 11,605]

We need experience and we need some solid bodies. Wouldn't mind seeing us have a crack at these guys:

Matt White - Tough mid/fwd who uses the ball well. Tigers in need of a ruckman or key defender and a deal could easily be struck.

Brendan Goddard - Needs no explanation as to how he can benefit us. Would have to give up something pretty special to get him.

Chris Masten - According to an article in the age he's considered to be 'trade potential'. Don't know what the asking price would be but he'd certainly be able to slot into our midfield. Doubt we have any chance of getting him.

Brian Lake - Experienced, big bodied and does like to spend time up forward. Doubt he'll leave, but if he does we could easily get him for very little.

Matt White - if he came cheap would not mind

Goddard - goes without saying would love to have him, but what are you prepared to give

Masten - Crab, if you think Bartrams disposal is bad think again, Masten is a great athlete holds junior records at 400 & 800m in WA. Having said that in the last month of 2011 he played a role within Eagles structure but don't rate him at all. If West Coast had taken Morton with pick 3 in 07, we would not have taken Masten. It was well known the Eagles were going to take him with pick 3. Carlton were locked in for Kruezar with pick 1 and Tigers weretossing up between Morton & Cotchin I prayed at the time for them to take Morton but as we know they didn't.

Lake - not what we need, selfish, unsettles the player group and not as good as Chip!

[ex52k2 231]

Patrick Rose from Port Melbourne, small forward, kicked 75+ gaols this year, can mark and finds the ball well.

Would be worth a third round pick to knab him?

[H_T 2,941]

Patrick Rose from Port Melbourne, small forward, kicked 75+ gaols this year, can mark and finds the ball well.

Would be worth a third round pick to knab him?

Not a bad suggestion really....we are in the market for a small forward. 79 goals.

http://www.sportingp...150677-14505841

Avg. 3.76 goals a game. And topped the list for the year in the VFL..as you say.

Our second pick is at around ~39 (depends upon concession/priority picks in play)..

[drdrake 3,058]

Patrick Rose from Port Melbourne, small forward, kicked 75+ gaols this year, can mark and finds the ball well.

Would be worth a third round pick to knab him?

What so we can add him to our number of mid size forwards we already have. Who does he replace Sylvia, Jurrah, Howe, Petterd, Green. Find me some outside mids that are quick and can kick so our forwards have the opportunity to kick goals.

[Redleg 38,192]

What so we can add him to our number of mid size forwards we already have. Who does he replace Sylvia, Jurrah, Howe, Petterd, Green. Find me some outside mids that are quick and can kick so our forwards have the opportunity to kick goals.

He is 183 cms and will turn 26 next year.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Lol at some of the spuds being suggested on this thread- who said Nason haha I almost choked on my chocolate milk!

People we don't have to trade for trades sake. I want to trade for someone who will be worth it- and that doesn't include grandpa's who are over the hill and have only one good leg left (Lake).

Discuss players who will make an impact and are available, or don't discuss any at all really.

[H_T 2,941]

Lol at some of the spuds being suggested on this thread- who said Nason haha I almost choked on my chocolate milk!

People we don't have to trade for trades sake. I want to trade for someone who will be worth it- and that doesn't include grandpa's who are over the hill and have only one good leg left (Lake).

Discuss players who will make an impact and are available, or don't discuss any at all really.

So instead of baking posters who make suggestions while drinking your chocolate milk, perhaps you'd be good enough to contribute someone who can make an impact.

Or don't discuss at all.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

You suggested Nason, right?

Unfortunately I think any player that is going to be worth it is probably out of reach. I want us to go for a "blue chip" commodity.. a Goddard etc. Definitely no one who struggles to get a game on someone else's list, as they will bring nothing to us.

[H_T 2,941]

You suggested Nason, right?

Ah, no.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

So why did you get your back up?

[H_T 2,941]

I covered that in my last post McFloonieloonie and besides your post wasn't just about Nason. Hence... "spuds"

I always liked the saying that if you "haven't anything nice to say, say nothing at all."

I think that sums it up quite nicely. I consider it apt, anyway.

I support meaningful contributions. And I think this of yours...:

Unfortunately I think any player that is going to be worth it is probably out of reach. I want us to go for a "blue chip" commodity.. a Goddard etc. Definitely no one who struggles to get a game on someone else's list, as they will bring nothing to us.

....is a meaningful contribution.

I'd also like someone like Goddard, but it's a big long shot.

It will be interesting to see how the Saints go in trade week without a coach....as the second round of interviews will be conducted next week during trade week.

I'm tipping the likes of Watters or Hinkley, etc would want someone like a Goddard or Dal Santo to stay at the Saints.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

I accept that.

I struggle to keep sweeping statements to myself and hence usually end up with my foot in my mouth, it seems this is the same for me on forums too.

And for the record I was talking about other spuds as in Jesse White, Mckinley and a few other hacks I've seen mentioned in the past. Ahhh Kosi.. that was the one!

[Brayshaw Self 847]

Would much rather draft Ahmed Saad than trade for Byrnes/Nason or draft Rose

[Scipio 5,900]

Would much rather draft Ahmed Saad than trade for Byrnes/Nason or draft Rose

What were Saad's stats like for the season? From what I saw of him playing I would be pretty happy with either him or Rose filling the small forward role that definitely needs to be filled this off season by someone half decent.

[bing181 8,300]

People we don't have to trade for trades sake. I want to trade for someone who will be worth it

Fair enough, but even if we go by past drafts, there are very (very) few "class" players that come up - except for players who for whatever reason want out. Richitelli, Burgoyne, McClean (cough cough) etc. wanted to leave their clubs, and nominated where they wanted to go. The vast majority of drafts are for players that are playing in the two's, the Warnocks, Marics (ours) etc. etc

We'd all love to land a Goddard, but I think it's in the realms of fantasyland.

[Watt and Howe? 16]

Chris Masten - According to an article in the age he's considered to be 'trade potential'. Don't know what the asking price would be but he'd certainly be able to slot into our midfield. Doubt we have any chance of getting him.

dont want at all, for all the discretions, i share close mates with him, it's not just the fighting i don't like, it's his ben cousins and stephen milne side i don't like, and im not talking about on field.

[Brayshaw Self 847]

What were Saad's stats like for the season? From what I saw of him playing I would be pretty happy with either him or Rose filling the small forward role that definitely needs to be filled this off season by someone half decent.

He kicked 50 goals in 20 games. Average of 2.5 with a high score of 8.

Every time i saw him play he was dangerous. Good speed and makes defenders very nervous. Great goal sense and good skills.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104511/default.aspx

21 years old but invited to the combine this year. 175kg, 74 kilos. Very new to the game as well.

If he was available at our second pick I would love for us to snap him up.

[dee-luded 2,958]

He would have been perfect? How many games did he play this season? He never stays on the park. Bad call, IMO.

I can't believe you can't se when we're trying to bring in young players for 2 - 3 games here and there as they adjust before their fully ready, that that scenario is very handy. when the senior playeer canb play some games for the MFC and some with Casey is an Ideal scenario.

If the senior player is full time every weekk in the seniors he's a list clogger.

But if he can share the roster with Cook & Fitzpatrick & McDonald as they slowly mature, I think thats a good model.

Our young players won't be ready to play more than 12 games next year, & most likely well less.