Jack Trengove

[Jaded No More 68,958]

Scott Thompson went back to Adelaide, which the answer Thomo gave re Who goes back to Adelaide? The answer was correct. Could've saved your 2 cents.

The question was put in a way that suggests "nobody would ever leave Melbourne to go play for a South Australian club by choice".

That still remains to be correct in the case of Thommo. He had no real choice, and it wasn't his desire to leave the club and go back home. Therefore the example is flawed.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

All i am saying is that if Tom stays and is happy, Adelaide's job is that much harder.

Not necessarily and you have not provided any plausible substantiation to that view.

Little sentimental and dramatic, the fact they were drafted one and two in the same draft has no impact on their relationship.

For all we know they may hate each other.

Exactly. But WYL is claim that there is this mysterious bond based on no substance that suggests that if Scully leaves then Trengove will be more likely to go to Adelaide...

Their respective dispositions may be mutually exclusive. What we DO know is that if Scully leaves then MFC will have more salary cap to use to retain other players like Trengove. If it is just a financial decision then Adelaide will have more difficult time getting Trengove from MFC if Scully is not there.

[old dee 23,792]

I'm madly in love with this kid. What a star!

Me too Jaded.

What I see and what my gut tells me is this kid

could easily be better than TS over the long term.

If I could only have one of the two it would be Trengove.

He gets bigger by the week, has a good engine, can mark, kick goals

and is a great kick.

We are staring at a future captain and ten year player.

Keep him at all costs.

[jayceebee31 761]

Just like there is also a bond between McLean and Sylvia as they got their jumpers at the same time.

So when McLean got the offer from Carlton then Sylvia would also leave. But wait... he didn't.

Maybe the blood brothers theory is just rubbish.

I would have thought Adelaide would be interested in Trengove regardless what Scully does. And if Scully were to stay at MFC then there is less MFC salary cap to stretch to Trengove. So Adelaide would have more scope to put a more attractive $$$ bid to Trengove. If Scully were to go then MFC would be fighting like hell to retain Trengove. Damn logic.

Good to see you back- RR- I thought you had gone for good.

[Freak 100]

Biggest misconception in footy. Thommo went back for family reasons. He needed to be close to his family and made it very easy for the club to strike a good deal for him in return.

I cringe when Melbourne supporters boo him. Stupid.

Besides, with the way both SA clubs are going at the moment, I don't think the proposition of going back there is very appealing. Port Adelaide are struggling to pay the electricity bills, how the hell are they going to pay for marquee players?

This simply needs to be addressed. 'Thommo went back for family reasons'. That's almost exactly why people return to their home state, because it's their home and they're home sick! And 'strike a good deal in return'? You've got to be joking! Thompson was picked up at pick 16 and despite a few early injuries showed promise that he was to be a future star of the comp. After a few pre-seasons into this star we got like pick 14 or 16 for him. EXACTLY WHAT WE DRAFTED HIM AT! His departure has continued to hurt our club. Thompson is a star and was always going to be.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

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I am surprised that no one else bought up Mark "Roo" (because I cant be bothered looking up how to spell his last name !) on "On the Couch" last night. He spoke about Trengove being an Adelaide boy and the MFC having to put a big offer on the table to keep him as Adelaide are already into him about when his contract ends next year. Did I imagine that ?

Me thinks he will be asked about that.

Interesting to hear what he says."

In addition to his trial by fire with the very testing tribunal stuff he has had to endure this year, Jack's representation of our club and himself IMO simply cannot be challenged.

Jack is calm under pressure,can handle himself with the media, shows maturity beyond his years has a good sense of humour. Oh and he can play footy a little bit. Roo might have just added the captaincy or vice captaincy to Jack's MFC CV next year. I hope so anyway.

[Jaded No More 68,958]

This simply needs to be addressed. 'Thommo went back for family reasons'. That's almost exactly why people return to their home state, because it's their home and they're home sick! And 'strike a good deal in return'? You've got to be joking! Thompson was picked up at pick 16 and despite a few early injuries showed promise that he was to be a future star of the comp. After a few pre-seasons into this star we got like pick 14 or 16 for him. EXACTLY WHAT WE DRAFTED HIM AT! His departure has continued to hurt our club. Thompson is a star and was always going to be.

I don't know why I bother, however, Thompson did NOT return home because he was home sick. He returned home because he had family matters he had to attend to. He didn't simply get home sick, chuck a hissy fit and left.

He told the club he wanted to go, and he helped us out by saying that he'll go to whichever SA club gave us a better deal. That is as much as any departing player can really do. Of course given he had to return home we had no leg to stand on so had to take a relatively poor deal, although in reality we replaced him with who is now our Vice Captain. Granted Moloney is not as good a player, but he has given us great service and will continue to do so for many years.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,826]

This simply needs to be addressed. 'Thommo went back for family reasons'. That's almost exactly why people return to their home state, because it's their home and they're home sick! And 'strike a good deal in return'? You've got to be joking! Thompson was picked up at pick 16 and despite a few early injuries showed promise that he was to be a future star of the comp. After a few pre-seasons into this star we got like pick 14 or 16 for him. EXACTLY WHAT WE DRAFTED HIM AT! His departure has continued to hurt our club. Thompson is a star and was always going to be.

We got pick 12 which we on-traded for Brent Moloney, current vice-captain and probable B&F winner.

Thommo has been better than Beamer over the journey, however I think we were pretty adequately compensated for a bloke that wanted out.

Carry on.

[old dee 23,792]

Cale Morton would be a great pick for GWS .Versatile ,tough ,dedicated ,will travel .

I don't think anyone is going to take the bait CJJ!

[old dee 23,792]

I don't know why I bother, however, Thompson did NOT return home because he was home sick. He returned home because he had family matters he had to attend to. He didn't simply get home sick, chuck a hissy fit and left.

He told the club he wanted to go, and he helped us out by saying that he'll go to whichever SA club gave us a better deal. That is as much as any departing player can really do. Of course given he had to return home we had no leg to stand on so had to take a relatively poor deal, although in reality we replaced him with who is now our Vice Captain. Granted Moloney is not as good a player, but he has given us great service and will continue to do so for many years.

Thats pretty much my memory of it as well.

I seem to remember that his family were putting a fair amount of pressure as well.

[grant 10]

Not necessarily and you have not provided any plausible substantiation to that view.

Exactly. But WYL is claim that there is this mysterious bond based on no substance that suggests that if Scully leaves then Trengove will be more likely to go to Adelaide...

Their respective dispositions may be mutually exclusive. What we DO know is that if Scully leaves then MFC will have more salary cap to use to retain other players like Trengove. If it is just a financial decision then Adelaide will have more difficult time getting Trengove from MFC if Scully is not there.

Trengove said and repeatedly indicated (as I know you like facts RR but this is not wiki so no hyperlinks today mate) that its not all about the money. I agree with "why you little" that if sculz leaves this would significantly damage melbournes finals/premiership aspirations, something which Trenners has indicated, values highly and could open the door.

You quoted slyvia and mclean as proof the notion of "blood brothers" doesn't exist. While you're right there is no proof that getting drafted together creates any link, however being part of an elite young brigade has proven to be a sticking point and "mantra" for clubs searching for premiership success. St Kilda which was inches away from a flag forged a blood brother mentality within their young core year ago, as was done with Geelong. Both teams faced salary cap pressure and stuck together. I somehow doubt this would have been the case had Reiwoldt or Bartel left their club at 20-23 for bigger bucks, that they would have stuck together as they did.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Trengove said and repeatedly indicated (as I know you like facts RR but this is not wiki so no hyperlinks today mate) that its not all about the money.

But the money still helps.

I agree with "why you little" that if sculz leaves this would significantly damage melbournes finals/premiership aspirations, something which Trenners has indicated, values highly and could open the door.

MFC should still play finals football with or without Scully. Hell, we have had Scully missing alot of the year and we are still in the hunt for finals. Trengove still can achieve his objectives without Scully. There could be more issues if Scully stayed was paid $$$$$ and Trengove was only offered $$$. Money may not be the be all but it should rankle if you are performing at or better than the level of another player and are getting less money. I am sure Trengove values respect.

You quoted slyvia and mclean as proof the notion of "blood brothers" doesn't exist. While you're right there is no proof that getting drafted together creates any link, however being part of an elite young brigade has proven to be a sticking point and "mantra" for clubs searching for premiership success. St Kilda which was inches away from a flag forged a blood brother mentality within their young core year ago, as was done with Geelong. Both teams faced salary cap pressure and stuck together. I somehow doubt this would have been the case had Reiwoldt or Bartel left their club at 20-23 for bigger bucks, that they would have stuck together as they did.

I used to McLean and Sylvia as an example that WYL's nexus of Scully and Trengove has little water just because they were in the same draft and got there jumper at the same time. Every premiership team has "blood brothers". It just isnt restricted to being drafted in the same year. MFC will still have an elite brigade of players even without Scully. Nice to keep him but it does not make the rest suddenly ordinary if he goes. And if Trengove wants to leave MFC to find an "elite young brigade", why would he choose Adelaide? They are not elite now and because of the drafting situation with GWS and GC wont be elite for some time. Hmmmm.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I reckon Trenners will be a 12 to 15 year player with us and will be captain for quite a few of those years. He is an extremely impressive young man.

[Kento80 83]

I am in love with him, and I would have virtually no qualms at all with him being made captain next year. Would go a long way towards any fears (which I don't hold) that he may leave, and also to appease the fact that he is getting paid less than Scully.

[Jarka 767]

WTF!!!!! Trengove is not from Adelaide, he's from a town close to the Vic border, in fact it's about halfway between the two cities.

There is no go-home factor to Adelaide.

Edit: Google map link to his home town

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=Naracoorte

Edited July 12, 2011 by Jarka

[hardtack 10,547]

It was mentioned about midway through the thread, but I will repeat it because it seems no-one bothered to read, or everyone prefers to discuss a hypothetical situation where another of our players could go west... it was Adelaide's JACKSON TRENGOVE that was mentioned by "Roo"... NOT Jack Trengove.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

It was mentioned about midway through the thread, but I will repeat it because it seems no-one bothered to read, or everyone prefers to discuss a hypothetical situation where another of our players could go west... it was Adelaide's JACKSON TRENGOVE that was mentioned by "Roo"... NOT Jack Trengove.

If anyone took notice of that it would make the continuation of the thread pointless and that wouldn't do would it?

[Flemo56 396]

AS STATED IN AN EARLIER REPLY TO THIS POST, ROO WAS TALKING ABOUT CROWS PLAYER JACKSON TRENGROVE, HE'S A VICO..............SHEEEEEESH LOOK WHAT IT STARTED.........LOL

[QueenC 74]

AS STATED IN AN EARLIER REPLY TO THIS POST, ROO WAS TALKING ABOUT CROWS PLAYER JACKSON TRENGROVE, HE'S A VICO..............SHEEEEEESH LOOK WHAT IT STARTED.........LOL

Yep, paranoia is everywhere, and contagious !!!

[QueenC 74]

I'm madly in love with this kid. What a star!

We're forming a line !!!

[Striker475 696]

I'm not about to sleep with him, but he is something.

And clearly he's been taking some lessons from LJ as to how to take a hanger...

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Roo may have been talking about Jackson Trengove yes, but don't forget our Jack was one of the Best on ground in the 2009 SANFL GF. So they will be watching him very closely....albeit quietly. You can bet your dinner on that one.

Let us all hope that JT remains a one club man.

[dee-luded 2,959]

We're forming a line !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-bnzzM3xg

Edited July 12, 2011 by dee-luded

[Guest Thomo]

The question was put in a way that suggests "nobody would ever leave Melbourne to go play for a South Australian club by choice".

That still remains to be correct in the case of Thommo. He had no real choice, and it wasn't his desire to leave the club and go back home. Therefore the example is flawed.

You put way too much effort in replying to my post. My post of "Scott Thompson", was in reply to a post "who ever goes back to Adelaide ????"

Simple one liner, I wasn't really looking at the Trengove debate or comparing the reasons for staying/going.

[Guest The Tweed Pig]

Biggest misconception in footy. Thommo went back for family reasons. He needed to be close to his family and made it very easy for the club to strike a good deal for him in return.

I cringe when Melbourne supporters boo him. Stupid.

Besides, with the way both SA clubs are going at the moment, I don't think the proposition of going back there is very appealing. Port Adelaide are struggling to pay the electricity bills, how the hell are they going to pay for marquee players?

The main reason Thompson left was because of Daniher. He hated his guts. You're welcome to disbelieve me, but many people within the club know this to be true.

Funny thread, btw. All started over a poster misconstruing Jackson Trengove from Port Adelaide for Jack Trengove.