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Green I think will be our next captain. Make no doubts.

Davey will be a very admirable Vice Captain. Better than what Bruce was IMO. Although that might be sour grapes.

I believe in 2-3 years time when Greeny is wrapping up his career then Grimes will slot in perfectly.

Thats my thoughts.

Gippy

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I am inclined to feel Green will get the nod because IMO he does all his leading where it counts; on the football field.

I don't think Grimes as our future captain is as much as a "lock" as people think- Watts, Scully and possibly even Sylvia can have strong claims to that title too.

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I am inclined to feel Green will get the nod because IMO he does all his leading where it counts; on the football field.

I don't think Grimes as our future captain is as much as a "lock" as people think- Watts, Scully and possibly even Sylvia can have strong claims to that title too.

Come on...

Yeah, he has turned his career around but...

Come on.

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Green I think will be our next captain. Make no doubts.

Davey will be a very admirable Vice Captain. Better than what Bruce was IMO. Although that might be sour grapes.

I believe in 2-3 years time when Greeny is wrapping up his career then Grimes will slot in perfectly.

Thats my thoughts.

Gippy

I agree Gippy, but would not surprise if Moloney and Davey are co-vice captains for the different aspects of leadership they bring to the table.

However I think on and off the field Brad Green is the most rounded of all the aspirants - reliable, consistent, versatile, courageous, durable, classy, great finisher, leads by example, polished media performer and now club senior statesman (the last not being a pre-requisite for captaincy though). Davey and Moloney for mine don't tick ALL these boxes (not counting the last). Green does. The fact he won the Leadership award and Heart and Soul for this year, not only demonstrates this, but also shows how far he has come after his demotion from the leadership group several years ago.

He took that disappointment on the chin, learnt from it and has grown and developed both as a person and leader as a result.

Taking in all the above, I just believe he deserves it and has earned it.

I also expect Jack Grimes to step up to the plate when Green retires in 3-4 years. The only box he needs to tick above that isn't already, is "durable".

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Come on...

Yeah, he has turned his career around but...

Come on.

We are talking in another 3-4 years.. You don't think he could "possibly" be a chance if he keeps on the straight and narrow path?

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Sylvia's matured rapidly over the last 2-3 years, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts his hand up after Green retires.

And I think it will be Green. He's got Flash covered on the footy field IMO.

Would like to see Davey get it though.

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We are talking in another 3-4 years.. You don't think he could "possibly" be a chance if he keeps on the straight and narrow path?

No.

He would do well to be in the leadership group in 4 years time with Davey, Scully, Grimes, Watts, Trengove, and Frawley.

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Several years ago, I played golf with a guy who previously worked for Leading Teams. He was also a close friend of the person placed with Melbourne at the time (from memory - Jim Plunket). James McDonald had recently been appointed Captain and I asked him what he thought about the appointment.

He explained that the days of the coaching committee picking the best player are well and truly behind us. Whilst the players vote, it is not like a 3,2,1 Brownlow scenario. Instead they (and the coaching staff) rate the players on a series of individual Key Performance Indicators. Once this is done it becomes apparent who should captain. These indicators are often different to public perceptions.

At the time, he mentioned that Junior was the most important appointment that Melbourne made as part of their rebuilding with a young list strategy. A similar process also saw Tom Harley appointed ahead of more talented or more fancied teammates at Geelong.

He was very complimentry of Stynes & Co and the culture that Melbourne were developing. I am confident that whoever is appointed will be the best decision for the club and not necessarily the person who the wider community expect.

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Nick Maxwell?

Seriously, who saw that coming at the time..? It was a rumour, but a silly sounding one at that.

And I can't imagine any other filth player being able to fill the role even adequately.

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No 18 is on the front cover of the club's magazine, now called Heartbeat. The caption is Brad Green Steps Forward. Suggests who might be Captain.

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No 18 is on the front cover of the club's magazine, now called Heartbeat. The caption is Brad Green Steps Forward. Suggests who might be Captain.

Davey was the only current player involved in the video explaining the new Melbourne emblem.

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The magazine cover, and headline, says it. It's Green.

Personally, as much as the romance of an indigenous captain appeals, Green is the better option. His form, his willingness to put the body on the line, his strength in the air, his reliability as a target for our blokes and his finishing are first class.

Davey is already enough of a target for the opposition and has enough to deal with.

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The magazine cover, and headline, says it. It's Green.

Personally, as much as the romance of an indigenous captain appeals, Green is the better option. His form, his willingness to put the body on the line, his strength in the air, his reliability as a target for our blokes and his finishing are first class.

Davey is already enough of a target for the opposition and has enough to deal with.

And yet, I would say that Davey is more of a clubman than Brad.

Not meant to disparage Brad; Aaron is obviously heavily invloved in the club and the youth coming through.

They will both do a good job.

I don't see Aaron's behaviour on field as embarrassing the club. May be the making of him on field.

As it also might be the making of Brad - from a professional to a professional leader.

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I once saw Peewee Herman on a magazine cover...

What team is he captain of..?

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Nick Maxwell?

Seriously, who saw that coming at the time..? It was a rumour, but a silly sounding one at that.

And I can't imagine any other filth player being able to fill the role even adequately.

oh really.. I guess the rest of the premiership winning list is just making up the numbers then eh

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The magazine cover, and headline, says it. It's Green.

Personally, as much as the romance of an indigenous captain appeals, Green is the better option. His form, his willingness to put the body on the line, his strength in the air, his reliability as a target for our blokes and his finishing are first class.

Davey is already enough of a target for the opposition and has enough to deal with.

You are setting yourself up for the cynics with that observation ;)

They will tell you that it is because he won the Bluey and to an extent they would be correct... however, as I stated in my earlier post above "...but one thing that some may have overlooked, and which I think has much more bearing on his chances of stepping up to the captaincy, and that is the fact that on that same night he also won the Ron Barassi Jnr Trophy, otherwise known as the Leadership Award. And on top of that he was also awarded the Heart and Soul Player Award."

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oh really.. I guess the rest of the premiership winning list is just making up the numbers then eh

haha pathetic sniping C&B.

you're still embarassing yourself...

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Green for me.

He can hold on to the captaincy for a few years until the best of the young crop is ready for the mantle.

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hmm. now junior has retired i think it should be Bruce.. oh wait he left..

Even if he stayed and half the team left he wouldn't be captain.

His leaving just proves he was never a leaders exit ring.

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Green deserves it – the guy is a champion. The onfield leadership he showed last year was incredible. He was always stepping up when we needed it most, and our team hadn't had that for quite a while. Maybe he isn't the buddy of all the younger guys, but I don't think there's a mould you need your captain to fit into that says they have to be. He is just so obviously our captain on the field that it would feel wrong, for mine, for him not to get it. Davey is a champion as well, but I just don't see him being able to do the team-lifting things when they are needed like Green.

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Green deserves it – the guy is a champion. The onfield leadership he showed last year was incredible. He was always stepping up when we needed it most, and our team hadn't had that for quite a while. Maybe he isn't the buddy of all the younger guys, but I don't think there's a mould you need your captain to fit into that says they have to be. He is just so obviously our captain on the field that it would feel wrong, for mine, for him not to get it. Davey is a champion as well, but I just don't see him being able to do the team-lifting things when they are needed like Green.

Really?

Because if there was one player over the last few (sometimes) dark years that lifted other players and fans - it would be Aaron.

Green was fantastic last year and you are only as good as your last year, but let's not forget what a bloke wearing 36 has done for us during some tough times.

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I hardly ever post here but it must be Brad Green surely?

So why do I have a sneaking feeling that he'll miss out?

Chunky Jones....for the leadership group at least....he's heart and soul Demon

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I hardly ever post here but it must be Brad Green surely?

So why do I have a sneaking feeling that he'll miss out?

Chunky Jones....for the leadership group at least....he's heart and soul Demon

Jones is a good point. I'd love to see him in the leadership group.

Brad Green, Aaron Davey, Nathan Jones, Jack Grimes, Brent Moloney and James Frawley...anyone?

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Jones is a good point. I'd love to see him in the leadership group.

Brad Green, Aaron Davey, Nathan Jones, Jack Grimes, Brent Moloney and James Frawley...anyone?

I think the leadership group is player driven and the skipper is decided by the FD with a reco from Leading Teams.

Maybe Rivers in the mix.

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