Kyle Cheney

[H_T 3,049]

Deepthroat says we'll use the Cheney pick to acquire Josh Hill..?

Just read that then too. ??

[olgreydingo 51]

Isnt Kyle in China at the mo?

[e25 5]

Yep.

He won't play for us now. Hawks would never let him.

Although... media ban in china may mean that he can sneak on field for a couple of minutes!

[Flemo56 409]

this is a win for both Kyle & Dee's,gl 2 him,& i'm sure the boy's thought about it carefully and have made the right move.

[DeezMan 4]

Now... many people here know how much I fancy the read-head. I rate him as a great future prospect and love his style of play.

BUT TO HEAR OF THIS TRADE MAKES ME CRINGE!!!

Cheney PLUS pick 66 for Hawthorn's pick 52????? :/ How does that equate???

Oh well... I hope he carves it up for Hawthorn.

And no one will get to hear me bang on about him anymore

[Flemo56 409]

we still got 2 rangas in jordie and bater, and both a lot better the kyle deezman

[jayceebee31 761]

Isnt Kyle in China at the mo?

This is my understanding.

[1858 285]

Now... many people here know how much I fancy the read-head. I rate him as a great future prospect and love his style of play.

BUT TO HEAR OF THIS TRADE MAKES ME CRINGE!!!

Cheney PLUS pick 66 for Hawthorn's pick 52????? :/ How does that equate???

Oh well... I hope he carves it up for Hawthorn.

And no one will get to hear me bang on about him anymore

Pick 66 is virtually nothing. We actually got more for Cheney than what Adelaide got for Griffen. Our 2nd round ND pick is usable now (even though there could be further senior list delistings).

[sylvinator 96]

Pick 66 is virtually nothing. We actually got more for Cheney than what Adelaide got for Griffen. Our 2nd round ND pick is usable now (even though there could be further senior list delistings).

We essentially got more for Cheney than Freo did for Tarrent

[The Chazz 4,077]

We essentially got more for Cheney than Freo did for Tarrent

So we should, Tarrant is 30 and only wanted to go to one Club, and Freo would have got nothing for him if he went to the draft.

We took the only offer we had for Kyle. Obviously the FD don't really rate him otherwise they would have played a bit harder.

oh well, it's done now, we move on.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Well done Th & co Gives us some breathing space and opportunity for exploring new talent whilst allowing Cheney a move to new fields Win/win

Edited October 11, 2010 by belzebub59

[Nasher 33,617]

Smart move for two reasons.

First, Cheney doesn't have a role to play in our 22. The most likely spot was as a small defender, but he's too slow.

Second, Melbourne needs to free up spots on the list. With most players contracted and the likely upgrade of both Spencer and McKenzie, we need room to use our picks.

As well as freeing up a spot on our list for a decent draftee, we've been able to upgrade pick 66 to pick 52.

Agreed. Very pleased with this - especially since we managed to get a pick we could actually use (as opposed to token very late picks).

[ox_5 163]

Now... many people here know how much I fancy the read-head. I rate him as a great future prospect and love his style of play.

BUT TO HEAR OF THIS TRADE MAKES ME CRINGE!!!

Cheney PLUS pick 66 for Hawthorn's pick 52????? :/ How does that equate???

Oh well... I hope he carves it up for Hawthorn.

And no one will get to hear me bang on about him anymore

Whats a read-head? Settle down DeezMan, Kyle wanted more opportunity so we moved him on. Dont blow a gasket over it, or you might end up needing your head-read.

[Elwood 3184 1,338]

According to the SpyandSource twitter: "Expect Melbourne to use pick 52 for Josh Hill "

Deal not done.

[The Albino Warrior 44]

Deal not done.

Would have been a gem for the Demons. Disappointing, but did seem unlikely when tweeted.

[H_T 3,049]

Agreed. Very pleased with this - especially since we managed to get a pick we could actually use (as opposed to token very late picks).

First four picks are now 12,32,49,52.

[The Chazz 4,077]

First four picks are now 12,32,49,52.

With that in mind HT, how many of those picks can we use?

* We've had 3 leave (Junior, Bell, Miller), means we can use 12, 32 and 49.

* Have given Spencer a contract, and you would assume Jordie will get one

Does this mean for us to use those 4 picks, we still need to delist a minimum of 1 player?

[sylvinator 96]

With that in mind HT, how many of those picks can we use?

* We've had 3 leave (Junior, Bell, Miller), means we can use 12, 32 and 49.

* Have given Spencer a contract, and you would assume Jordie will get one

Does this mean for us to use those 4 picks, we still need to delist a minimum of 1 player?

We currently have space to use pick 12 and pick 32.

If we want to use pick 49 and 52, we'll need to delist 2 more players

[H_T 3,049]

With that in mind HT, how many of those picks can we use?

* We've had 3 leave (Junior, Bell, Miller), means we can use 12, 32 and 49.

* Have given Spencer a contract, and you would assume Jordie will get one

Does this mean for us to use those 4 picks, we still need to delist a minimum of 1 player?

It is my understanding, to use the two third round picks (49,52) we'd need to delist two more.

Btw four have left. You left out Cheney.

I'd say PJ & TMac will be contemplated on by FD. Possibly both delisted.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Good/great trade demons.

Unless something drastic happened to Cheney's ability/pace in 2011, and unless we had about 4 guys go down with season ending knees, Cheney was going to be list clogger this coming season with only limited opportunity to improve in seasons to come. Given his VFL form and his high regard in the club, a trade makes perfect sense.

It's not glamorous or big news, but this is where the recruiters and list managers make their money. In the ones no-one sees coming. Win/win/win for Demons, Hawks and Cheney.

[The Chazz 4,077]

It is my understanding, to use the two third round picks (49,52) we'd need to delist two more.

Btw four have left. You left out Cheney.

I'd say PJ & TMac will be contemplated on by FD. Possibly both delisted.

Forgot about Cheyney!

I would think TMac would be thrown a rookie lifeline if that's an option.

So there is a chance that we will only use 12 and 32 on "new" kids, then use 49 and 52 on Jordie and Spencer. Pass on the rest.

Actually

Lost

McDonald - pick 12 - _________________

Miller - pick 32 - _________________

Bell - pick 49 - Jordie

Cheyney - pick 52 - Spencer

Is that right? So, if we were to delist TMac and make him a rookie, that means we could use pick 49 in the draft too?

Sorry, can be a bit confusing!

[stranga 328]

Id like to know what Melbourne saw in Kyle Cheney that resulted in them drafting him in the first place given its been pretty clear from day dot that he didnt possess what they were/are looking for?

[old dee 23,872]

I think Cheney wanted to leave as he did not see much chance of a regular gig at Melbourne.

It freed up a spot ( and salary ) for melb and because he was contracted we did the right thing by him.

I doubt we will use the draft pick don't believe we were too worried about which one we got.

It does of course stop Hawthorn using it.

Good Luck Kyle I though you were a honest goer who gave his best every game.

[Inner Demon 1]

Forgot about Cheyney!

I would think TMac would be thrown a rookie lifeline if that's an option.

So there is a chance that we will only use 12 and 32 on "new" kids, then use 49 and 52 on Jordie and Spencer. Pass on the rest.

Actually

Lost

McDonald - pick 12 - _________________

Miller - pick 32 - _________________

Bell - pick 49 - Jordie

Cheyney - pick 52 - Spencer

Is that right? So, if we were to delist TMac and make him a rookie, that means we could use pick 49 in the draft too?

Sorry, can be a bit confusing!

See The List Management Thread

[H_T 3,049]

Id like to know what Melbourne saw in Kyle Cheney that resulted in them drafting him in the first place given its been pretty clear from day dot that he didnt possess what they were/are looking for?

I'm not sure that it was clear from day dot. He was a third round draft pick from memory. Following Morton, Grimes & Maric. Clearly as time progressed his attributes were limited. Pace being one of them. Cheney's "development" soon solidified the FD's thoughts given the requirements and positions taken up by other players on the list.

Must also be noted that he wasn't picked up in the draft by the incumbent head of recruiting.