Mark Jamar

[furious d 447]

Another great game by the big fella yesterday. 19 disposals, 10 contested, and 3 clearances. Both Lade and Brogan were scared of body contact at the centre bounces after half time and I particularly enjoyed the knee to Brogans rib cage. I love the way he lauches himself into the other ruckmen at the centre bounces and then follows up crashing bodies at ground level and clearing space.

There's still plenty of room for improvement but I'd put all 4 of his games this year in his top 10 best career games. There's no doubt he's heading in the right direction, or that he belongs in the AFL. Good work Mark and good luck, we need you on the park

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

I haven't had a lot of nice things to say about him, but credit where credit's due, that's the best game I've seen from him by a fairly long stretch. Some will say he didn't have much to play against, Brogan and a ninety-year-old are hardly winning AA honours... But still, out of the four big guys that turned up yesterday, it's clear which one you'd want as your starting ruckman.

Well done Mark.

[Gorgoroth 12,319]

I agree I am going to have to stop calling him doughnuts.

[the_russian 17]

I've been telling people for a long time abotu his potential, always being laughed at, I'm glad its starting to pay off now.

His 1%ers are right up there with anyone at our club, always puts his body on the line, and I beleive he is setting a great example with his contested possesions, shepards, tackles etc.

THE RUSSIAN!

[IWAP 168]

From a "list management" perspective, I'd much rather have Johnson in the team ahead of Jamar.

Especially with games coming up against the mighty rucks of Richmond and Fremantle

[AzzKikA 2,369]

Great game, just needs to learn how to kick!!!

Edited July 13, 2009 by AzzKikA

[Jaded No More 57,895]

Has always been underrated as a ruckman because of the doughnuts issue, but he was always a great tap ruckman.

Now he is doing exactly what a big man should do, physically intimidating his opponent, taking contested marks and moving the ball quickly by hand.

Since returning from injury he has been absolutely fantastic and credit to him for continuing to improve.

As a side note, I think his development this year is right on track. He was picked up as a rookie in 2001, and now at 25 is starting to reach his peak. That is about average for really big ruckman.

[beelzebub 22,225]

From a "list management" perspective, I'd much rather have Johnson in the team ahead of Jamar.

Especially with games coming up against the mighty rucks of Richmond and Fremantle

lol..yes, might need to rest the Russian, i can sense "soreness" ..lol

As others have so shall I follow in prasing this bloke. He has definitley lifted and created more aspects to his game. His kicking has improved also.. An aspect i did quite like about White wwas his kicking and if Jamar can bring this up to that level then he really will have a future at teh club... good on ya mate!! well done

[Demon Disciple 10,940]

Another great game by the Russian. He just needs to gain more confidence when kicking at goal.

[Deestroy All 14,261]

Has always been underrated as a ruckman because of the doughnuts issue, but he was always a great tap ruckman.

No, he wasn't, in fact he was terrible.

He had a very awkward jumping style that often saw him leaning backwards, and often landed on his arse after it. And when this style did somehow get his hand to it, who knew where it was going.

He corrected his ruckwork last year and played his most effective rucking games, and little else.

These games since he's come back from injury he's been outstanding in most areas.

But to say he was always a great tap ruckman is pure fantasy and quite laughable.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

I always thought his ruckwork was pretty good . . .

Not sure why he ever would have been picked otherwise

[Rampaging Demons 1]

even had people discussing his form on radio last evening.

he has been very important for the midfield - providing that big body we have lacked.. win his fair share of hitouts and hit them to advantage...

his combination with moloney is fantastic!!

very happy for him - he is a super competitior.. hates being beaten - as shown when lade took the mark in the third.... just could not get there after running the length of the field....

[gOLLy 401]

Been a massive fan of the big Russian for a long time. Good to see him shove it up some of the posters on here.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Great game, just needs to learn how to kick!!!

Yeah his field kicking isn't too bad but his set shots let him down. Had he nailed those two shots Sunday he would have turned a good game into a very good one. A ruckman who kicks goals also puts a massive amount of pressure on the opposition.

No doubt his ruckwork is a reason why we have won our last couple of games.

[MelbournePassion 7]

Jamar is a beautiful kick. But not a beautiful kick for goal. Get someone on the goal line saying "Kick it to me Jamar", and he will nail it. His ruckwork has really impressed me this year, Massive improver. Should continue. I don`t know why some posters on this site favour Spencer and Meesen as our number 1 ruckman. It is defiantly Jamar number one.

[The Jack of Grimes 0]

From a "list management" perspective, I'd much rather have Johnson in the team ahead of Jamar.

Especially with games coming up against the mighty rucks of Richmond and Fremantle

Hahaha I thought you were serious for a second. Had to re-read it a couple times. Bless the internet and miss-interpretations. Yes. 'List Management' sounds good. While we're at it I'd like to think about preserving Jurrah and Grimes for next season and replace them in the side with Newton and Bartram. I think Davey would also be a nice like and like swap with Valenti.

[flog 20]

Dean bailey has been noted as a great teacher of the game, is it possible jamars improvement is a direct result of his coaching. what do you think?

[rpfc 27,469]

He's been great.

He's also, and this is where PJ is in some trouble, he imposes himself on contests.

[Beamer 1]

Now he is doing exactly what a big man should do, physically intimidating his opponent, taking contested marks and moving the ball quickly by hand.

Since returning from injury he has been absolutely fantastic and credit to him for continuing to improve.

As a side note, I think his development this year is right on track. He was picked up as a rookie in 2001, and now at 25 is starting to reach his peak. That is about average for really big ruckman.

Well said Jaded.

may the Russian's renaissance continue.

[Doggo 32]

I'm one who has been very critical of Jamar in the past, but i'm pleased to say he's improved immensely and surpassed all my expectations. His work-rate is better than it's ever been, he seems to be moving more freely and is more mobile than he has been in previous years, and his competitiveness in his ruckwork is right up there with the best.

Improve his kicking, and he'll become a very dangerous prospect. At the moment, it's the only criticism of him that remains in my mind, as his propensity to handball at all costs is very predictable (he'll look to handball, even when he's alone in space), and his complete lack of confidence in front of goal is not up to AFL standard.

He's certainly come a long way since being nicknamed 'doughnuts' all those years ago though. I must admit i never thought he'd be able to get up around 20 disposals in a match, ever, so it's definite testament to his improvement in work-rate.

Jamar is a beautiful kick. But not a beautiful kick for goal. Get someone on the goal line saying "Kick it to me Jamar", and he will nail it.

LOL

I've been telling people for a long time about his potential, always being laughed at, I'm glad its starting to pay off now.

His 1%ers are right up there with anyone at our club, always puts his body on the line, and I beleive he is setting a great example with his contested possesions, shepards, tackles etc.

THE RUSSIAN!

You did call it very early mate. Soak it up son, your man has arrived!