That was the point I was making Rhino - he just doesn't seem up to it football wise. Not at a level that covers his pace concerns anyway.
Covering 3km isn't going to help if the bloke you're playing on is consistently quicker over 20metres.
Those time trials are a waste of time imo. If he'd been on par with Judd over repeat 20metre sprints then I might be impressed
Lack of pace isn't too much of a concern if other areas of your game make up for it (guys like Greg Williams, Scott West, Sam Mitchell, Cameron Ling and Jobe Watson are testament to this). Unfortunately Brock (unfortunate for him anyway) is probably borderline on making up for it.
From the article the first is definitely a king hit, the second one sort of implies that (depends on what they mean by the man running to assist the first one) and the 3rd we don't even know if that was (allegedly) Troy.
Either way it's not the best start to one's career
I wasn't saying big as in brute size (otherwise Adam Slater would be close).
I meant more how ripped they are. The guys I mentioned would have next to no muscle fat.
re: Holland. Anyone who stands 196cm and 100kg is a big unit
Yes. Drafting is very much a numbers game.
Spriggs was flying until he did his knee.
They key with their drafting was that they all came in at roughly the same time, then they introduced a couple of guys like Ottens and Mooney to fill a couple of 'needs' in their line up
Geelong never bottomed out though, so theoretically their influx of players won't be of as high quality as yours.
They did draft bloody well though . . .
Arms like his?
They're still tiny . . .
At best I think you can expect a Nigel Lappin type frame.
There haven't been too many guys in the AFL (if ever) that have the same physique as Benny boy. I mean, even when he's not working out he looks as ripped as everyone else when they ARE working out. Adam McPhee, Barry Hall and Ben Holland are about the only guys I can think of that come/came close
What is even sadder is that incidents like the one that happened to Jones' father happen yet those same men you speak of in Gallipoli can share smokes with the Turkish soldiers that were trying to kill them (during the cease fire they had to remove the dead)
Perhaps not physically . . . But Ben Cousins would argue that prolonged drug use has a longer lasting effect.
I'm sure Laurence Angwin and Karl Norman would be in the same boat.