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The Age did a spread on inside the Coaches box at the Melb vs NM game. The paper had a big photo of the NM box with Rohan Connolly sitting up the back. In the paper the red and blue comes out yellow and blue

Can someone tell me where Martin Flanagan was when he compiled his story?

VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE NOT NECESSARILY ONE THAT PROVIDES ENLIGHTENMENT

"For three quarters, the Dees kept coming back. They lack a marking forward. Brad Miller is gallant, Jace Bode needs someone vigorous playing alongside him to create spaces for him."

Jace Bode???? I think you mean Matthew Bate.

Posted
The Age did a spread on inside the Coaches box at the Melb vs NM game. The paper had a big photo of the NM box with Rohan Connolly sitting up the back. In the paper the red and blue comes out yellow and blue

Can someone tell me where Martin Flanagan was when he compiled his story?

VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE NOT NECESSARILY ONE THAT PROVIDES ENLIGHTENMENT

"For three quarters, the Dees kept coming back. They lack a marking forward. Brad Miller is gallant, Jace Bode needs someone vigorous playing alongside him to create spaces for him."

Jace Bode???? I think you mean Matthew Bate.

I think the story's title says it all.

Unfortunately, the Age has descended rapidly from the lofty heights it once occupied as a newspaper of quality. If you think it's footy coverage is bad then don't bother with the general news or anything in the international sphere.

Posted

I liked the article.

The Jace Bode thing is just plain stupid though, takes a lot of credibility away from it all.

They should run there articles past someone who actaully supports the club before they print it.

Posted

Well thats due to the Age making redundant a lot of staff last year -- mostly check subs.

They still have their big name journalists, but no one to go through and correct the myriad of simple mistakes these 'literary geniuses' leave behind.

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"Jace Bode needs someone vigorous playing alongside him to create spaces for him."

Bwahahahaha! It just goes to prove what I always thought. Not many can play footy at that level but any idiot can have an opinion on it.

Edit: On the bright side maybe Colling@#$% will spend the whole week trying to get the "Jace Bode" match up right.

Posted

One mistake from a guy thats done a brilliant job over the summer for the club with a number of insightful articles, give him a break


Posted
One mistake from a guy thats done a brilliant job over the summer for the club with a number of insightful articles, give him a break

It's not that it's one mistake, it's that it shows a complete lack of knowledge of footy. If he has been in the inner sanctum, then how doesn't he know who Bate is (if that's who he meant?).

Posted

I had a giggle about the Bode moment, then kept reading. Great article and an insight into what happens in that little glass box has benn something i wanted to know about for ages.

Posted

He is a Journalist, he is paid good money to report the facts, getting a name wrong is a very basic and stupid mistake, hence I will call him a dumbarse for doing so.

If he did not get that wrong then I would not call him so.

Posted
Unfortunately, the Age has descended rapidly from the lofty heights it once occupied as a newspaper of quality. If you think it's footy coverage is bad then don't bother with the general news or anything in the international sphere.

Agreed.

I'm astounded at the response to this article. This article and the one on the North Melbourne box provide an insight rarely provided and the quality of the writing, apart from Flanagan's mistake, is terrific and would rate with the best articles on footy I've read in a while.

Are you Einstein's telling me that because one journalist got one player's name wrong the article is no good? What impact on the overall article did the wrong name have? How many of you learned something from the articles? How many of you knew that the forward line players don't have positions but have numbers? Didn't you find Bailey's final comment to the players interesting? Didn't some of you find it interesting that Laidley clearly thought Bruce and Green the major threats from Melbourne?

All many here are interested in is petty nit picking and chest beating because they've found a mistake. Woohoo, how good are you? Clap, clap. That's called human error and may not even have been Flanagan's fault. No wonder much of the discussion on this forum provides little when the collective wisdom of those posting on this thread discuss a simple error but not the substance and insights the article provides.

Those who are avid readers of Demonland and find Flanagan's article poor have clearly found their level.

The Age prides itself on being the more 'intelligent' paper in this city. That reputation cannot exist when simple mistakes are not found, either by the journalist or the editor. This is just another mistake in a paper that cannot seem to weed them out.

Of course the article provides an insight rarely seen in footy. But that doesn't mean it was produced to a high quality. It wasn't. And unfortunately for The Age, a lot of what it produces isn't close to being a high quality.

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Gosh, then perhaps you should get on a forum that discusses the Age's failure to provide a high quality product and not clog up a footy forum with complaints about a journalistic error.

Have a look at the size of your original post: and you reprimand me for 'clogging up a footy forum'.

You're right: who cares about the mistake in the paper. But if you can't see that The Age is on the decline, you're missing something.

Posted
Those who are avid readers of Demonland and find Flanagan's article poor have clearly found their level.

Clearly you have advertised yours, Thunderclap. Well done.

Posted

I do have to kind of agree with Thundercloud here. I hadn't seen this article until this thread (and the twin thread on Demonology, which has the same theme as this one). It's a howler of a mistake no doubt, but the article as a whole is one worth reading. After this thread, I almost didn't read it based on that one error.

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Wow you used Uranus from his username and got Anus............................ ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I never saw that, man are you clever.

So who do you work for, your name is not Martin F by any chance is it?

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What did you learn from the article or did you see the error immediately and than decide to not read it.

Not much as I have heard a number of descriptions of what happens in a Coaches box. Its a good read but a poor mistake especially given that Flanagan is embedded in Demons camp this season. Its not as though he just missed the name at a one off press conference The jaundice layout of the article in the paper and relative size of the article relative to the NM one made the MFC article look like an after thought.

If anything I would have thought there should be action and interest in a coaches box when things are not going well. They werent for the Demons. I thought Connolly's article was superior.

Glad you benefited.

Posted
I do have to kind of agree with Thundercloud here. I hadn't seen this article until this thread (and the twin thread on Demonology, which has the same theme as this one). It's a howler of a mistake no doubt, but the article as a whole is one worth reading. After this thread, I almost didn't read it based on that one error.

I agree with Thundercloud too, I enjoyed the piece. However, this is a thread for bashers and no surprise to see Rhino with the most posts.


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Are you Einstein's telling me that because one journalist got one player's name wrong the article is no good?

Nice one, Eins... Thundercloud.

There's no need for an apostrophe in your Einsteins. Everything else you right... write is now flawed.

For what it's worth: The Jace Bode error is the sort of typo journos often mistakenly include in their articles, but which should be picked up by a subbie. I stress "should" because the remaining subbies at the Age wouldn't know footy from a double-choc florentine. Doubtless Bode's name came up in despatches on Sunday and Flanagan got his wires crossed. The mistake, although a howler, is more a reflection on the paper than the pressed-for-deadline journalist.

That said, there's nothing wrong with people ribbing Flanagan/The Age over the mistake - I mean, that's what we do. But rather than drifting into outrageous indignation, we should count our blessings Flanagan has been given such a large brief to cover the Dees. And in turn given us a large chance to take the [censored] out of him.

And her: this is a worse mistake.

Posted
Wow you used Uranus from his username and got Anus

Yeah, it was ingenious wasn't it...

Look, the way I see it, a mistake was made that shouldn't have been made, and that, coupled with the many other mistakes this paper makes, is a reflection on the declining standard of The Age. The article may have been insightful, but to make an error like that, considering that the journalist is embedded with the club and that the newspaper is our sponsor, well, it detracts from the piece.

Posted
The Age did a spread on inside the Coaches box at the Melb vs NM game. The paper had a big photo of the NM box with Rohan Connolly sitting up the back. In the paper the red and blue comes out yellow and blue

Can someone tell me where Martin Flanagan was when he compiled his story?

VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE NOT NECESSARILY ONE THAT PROVIDES ENLIGHTENMENT

"For three quarters, the Dees kept coming back. They lack a marking forward. Brad Miller is gallant, Jace Bode needs someone vigorous playing alongside him to create spaces for him."

Jace Bode???? I think you mean Matthew Bate.

If Martin Flanagan is such a good journalist, he would have got this right. Probably had one of 'last seasons' records beside him for research..... :lol:

Posted
The Age prides itself on being the more 'intelligent' paper in this city. That reputation cannot exist when simple mistakes are not found, either by the journalist or the editor. This is just another mistake in a paper that cannot seem to weed them out.

Of course the article provides an insight rarely seen in footy. But that doesn't mean it was produced to a high quality. It wasn't. And unfortunately for The Age, a lot of what it produces isn't close to being a high quality.

And it's no where near small enough.... :lol:

Posted
I'm astounded at the response to this article. This article and the one on the North Melbourne box provide an insight rarely provided and the quality of the writing, apart from Flanagan's mistake, is terrific and would rate with the best articles on footy I've read in a while.

Are you Einstein's telling me that because one journalist got one player's name wrong the article is no good? What impact on the overall article did the wrong name have? How many of you learned something from the articles? How many of you knew that the forward line players don't have positions but have numbers? Didn't you find Bailey's final comment to the players interesting? Didn't some of you find it interesting that Laidley clearly thought Bruce and Green the major threats from Melbourne?

All many here are interested in is petty nit picking and chest beating because they've found a mistake. Woohoo, how good are you? Clap, clap. That's called human error and may not even have been Flanagan's fault. No wonder much of the discussion on this forum provides little when the collective wisdom of those posting on this thread discuss a simple error but not the substance and insights the article provides.

Those who are avid readers of Demonland and find Flanagan's article poor have clearly found their level.

Don't take it so personal. A good journalist undertakes thorough research. It's well known Jace Bode is not on the Demons list.

Posted
Got me!! I've always been one for substance over form....

You're right GD, but what frustrates me is a really good article is destroyed because of a silly mistake and hence any sensible footy discussion is destroyed. If RR had said "great article, but silly error" fine.

So what if I did not call the article "great". You are now trying to direct editorially how people respond to the article. Discuss it all you like. You just came onto the thread and big noted yourself.

I had actually given a critique of the article and all you have been is on the sniping attack.

RR are you now playing the victim? We don't get enough press, our article not as good as theirs, the layout of our article no good, NM got more space (and a picture as well!!).

Why would I need to do that Clap? It actually quite the opposite. We deserved a better spread given we have got a reporter embedded. I gave you my reasons why the mistake in conjunction with paper layout and size of article was disappointing.

Have NM got a journalist embedded with the club for a year with a number of feature articles as a result? Did they get a huge spread in the Age's Glossy on Friday?

No. But they did get a good reporter who provided a much better blow by blow of the action in the Roos box than I thought was done for MFC. And guess what he did not refer to a player that is no longer around the Club.

Play the victim and you'll be one. I don't want to be one and I won't play it.

Great to have a hero on board. Now get over yourself. I certainly have.

Posted

I'm with you thunderclap. A bloke gets one name wrong, and people forget all the exposure he has been giving the club through a series of articles on Liam Jurrah, on Cameron Schwabb, on Ron Barassi.

Honestly he put in Jace Bode big deal. Typical Demonland response, find the negatives, forget the positives.

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