Sandringham v Port Melbourne

[Rogue 585]

The elusive Newton..!

[Tex 68]

The elusive Newton..!

I have it on good authority that even though Newton did not get named for either Sandy side this week, that he will actually play in one of the teams.

[Blistering 538]

I have it on good authority that even though Newton did not get named for either Sandy side this week, that he will actually play in one of the teams.

If that's the case then why all of the drama?

Either name him and play him or don't name him and don't play him.

[bjgc 0]

This is strange but Ricky Petterd is named as part of the interchange for the reserves. It suggests possibly that there might be a doubt over his fitness. The fact that Newton's not there suggests that he's unfit for one reason or other (I suppose that's pretty obvious isn't it?)

SANDRINGHAM v PORT MELBOURNE (Reserves)

Sunday 22nd June

Trevor Barker Beach Oval at 11:10 AM

SANDRINGHAM

Backs Cannon Curcio Sargent

Half backs Plymin Shakaib McNamara

Centreline Hine McConnell Kondarovskis

Half forwards Hardiman Cleeve Lyall

Forwards Lockwood Zomer Weetra

Followers Spencer Williams Fleming

Interchange (from) Dean Eaton Gribbin Liddell Monaghan Petterd Summons Torcasio

McNamara's busy

[dazzledavey36 53,230]

This is strange but Ricky Petterd is named as part of the interchange for the reserves. It suggests possibly that there might be a doubt over his fitness. The fact that Newton's not there suggests that he's unfit for one reason or other (I suppose that's pretty obvious isn't it?)

SANDRINGHAM v PORT MELBOURNE (Reserves)

Sunday 22nd June

Trevor Barker Beach Oval at 11:10 AM

SANDRINGHAM

Backs Cannon Curcio Sargent

Half backs Plymin Shakaib McNamara

Centreline Hine McConnell Kondarovskis

Half forwards Hardiman Cleeve Lyall

Forwards Lockwood Zomer Weetra

Followers Spencer Williams Fleming

Interchange (from) Dean Eaton Gribbin Liddell Monaghan Petterd Summons Torcasio

bloody sautner!!! keeping zomer out of the side.. did this to dale carson aaron rogers and luke molan!

[Dalrot 85]

bloody sautner!!! keeping zomer out of the side.. did this to dale carson aaron rogers and luke molan!

Hardly Sautner's fault that they weren't good enough for AFL.

[DemonDave 1,082]

So it's Nick Sauntners fault that Zomer got as few posessions as he did last week with no competition for the full-forward spot? Come on, this argument is getting old and boring...

[Hulett Packard III 166]

bloody sautner!!! keeping zomer out of the side.. did this to dale carson aaron rogers and luke molan!

I thought Zomer did it all by himself in Sautner's absence last week.

He got a handful of possessions and now he's back in the 2's. Nothing at all to do with Sautner.

[Nasher 33,607]

bloody sautner!!! keeping zomer out of the side.. did this to dale carson aaron rogers and luke molan!

They did that all by themselves champ.

[deanox 9,770]

McNamara's busy

well spotted, mcnamara named on field in both sides...

zomer in both sides (bench for the 1sts)...

plymin in both sides (on the bench for the 1sts)...

dean on the bench in both sides...

and spencer named in both sides.

12 named on the bench in the 1sts. 4 need to go up to the mfc, means 8 on the bench.

four more need to be cut and 5 players are named in both sides. that means, either all five could play in the 2nds and newton come into the 1sts. or all five could play in the 1sts and newton plays in the seconds.

their is still a spot there floating around...

[45HG 1,539]

Bloody Sautner, making petrol so expensive i can't buy a house yet

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Bloody Sautner, making petrol so expensive i can't buy a house yet

I always suspected Sautner of throwing those children overboard...

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Newton, on the other hand, will be gaining absolutely nothing from playing against sub-standard opposition in the 2's, and not getting any fitter playing there either. He plays as a deep forward, essentially using his height, leap and well-timed, short leads to win the footy.

Run20x20m sprints with 30 seconds between at 100% then then jog 400m at about 80% and tell me which one is more exhausting

[Deelicious9 0]

Run20x20m sprints with 30 seconds between at 100% then then jog 400m at about 80% and tell me which one is more exhausting

I see where you're coming from buddy but your "experiment" is flawed for the ultimate reason that the intensities are different. I see they're covering the same distance but at different intensities it's a ridiculous comparison.

I know you're going to bring up game style running but neither of those situations actually occur. If the 400m was at 100% you'd be much more exhausted after that.

[Freddy Fuschia 730]

Too many conspiracy theories. The reasons will no doubt be a combination of things. The 12 player rule, management of Petterd's injury and Sautners return.

I think it is likely that part of Newton's frustration with going back to Sandy is having to compete with Sautner to be the focal point.

I agree with RR. I like Petterd and want to see him return fully fit whether that be this year or next. Same with Frank Grimes. And Jarka, Petterd won't be traded.

Maybe the plain and simple answer is that Newton's knee hasn't come up well after last week and he's out injured again?

[Whispering_Jack 29,324]

well spotted, mcnamara named on field in both sides...

zomer in both sides (bench for the 1sts)...

plymin in both sides (on the bench for the 1sts)...

dean on the bench in both sides...

and spencer named in both sides.

12 named on the bench in the 1sts. 4 need to go up to the mfc, means 8 on the bench.

four more need to be cut and 5 players are named in both sides. that means, either all five could play in the 2nds and newton come into the 1sts. or all five could play in the 1sts and newton plays in the seconds.

their is still a spot there floating around...

Sandringham desperatley needs to win tomorrow's game against Port, as a loss will severely diminish its chances of making the top four. The Zebs are entitled to play a maximum of 12 MFC listed players under the VFL's stand alone rule. There are twelve Demons left in the current squad of 26:-

Daniel Bell, Simon Buckley, Kyle Cheney, Addam Maric, Stefan Martin, Tom McNamara, John Meesen, Cale Morton, Jake Spencer, Shane Valenti, Adem Yze and Trent Zomer

Will they all play?

I think they will with the possible exception of an additional emergency to go to Canberra (Valenti?) and Zomer who showed last week that he was fringe senior VFL at best at this stage. I think it would be pathetic if McNamara went back to the ressies after being named in a set position in the firsts for his first senior VFL game.

That leaves the door ajar for Newton to come in if fit but, if that happens, it would leave a mystery about his non selection in the first place. I personally would like to see him playing because his presence in a game at this level always adds to the game's interest and excitement.

[deanox 9,770]

Sandringham desperatley needs to win tomorrow's game against Port, as a loss will severely diminish its chances of making the top four. The Zebs are entitled to play a maximum of 12 MFC listed players under the VFL's stand alone rule. There are twelve Demons left in the current squad of 26:-

Daniel Bell, Simon Buckley, Kyle Cheney, Addam Maric, Stefan Martin, Tom McNamara, John Meesen, Cale Morton, Jake Spencer, Shane Valenti, Adem Yze and Trent Zomer

Will they all play?

I think they will with the possible exception of an additional emergency to go to Canberra (Valenti?) and Zomer who showed last week that he was fringe senior VFL at best at this stage. I think it would be pathetic if McNamara went back to the ressies after being named in a set position in the firsts for his first senior VFL game.

That leaves the door ajar for Newton to come in if fit but, if that happens, it would leave a mystery about his non selection in the first place. I personally would like to see him playing because his presence in a game at this level always adds to the game's interest and excitement.

i thought i read somewhere that valenti was definetly going to canberra, which means there is defs a spot for another mfc listed player with or without zomer...

[Eastie Boyz 0]

I see where you're coming from buddy but your "experiment" is flawed for the ultimate reason that the intensities are different. I see they're covering the same distance but at different intensities it's a ridiculous comparison.

I know you're going to bring up game style running but neither of those situations actually occur. If the 400m was at 100% you'd be much more exhausted after that.

By the sounds of it you're saying that Newton doesn't need fitness to be a full forward. Look at how Gehrig has performed this year and that'll give you an indicator of an unfit full forward trying to play AFL. He needs to be able to continuous sprint on a lead then use explosive power to leap for marks and then if the ball hits the deck it's another 5-10m burst of energy to get to it and compete. Then after all that if the opposition wins the ball you have to chase your opponent the other way

[Hulett Packard III 166]

i thought i read somewhere that valenti was definetly going to canberra, which means there is defs a spot for another mfc listed player with or without zomer...

Confirmed. Valenti trained with the team in Canberra today and is the emergency whose gone up with the team. Scratch him from the Sandy side unless he flies back tomorrow morning.

[demon_king 13]

Any word from the VFL and VFL reserves today?

Interested to know who is pushing for selection next week.

[Yze_Magic 3]

Sandy won by 67 points.

Zomer kicked 8, Maric 5, and Cale Morton had 37 damaging disposals with 2 goals.

Just kidding, but I hope its something like that.

[Roost It 1,434]

Sandy won by 67 points.

Zomer kicked 8, Maric 5, and Cale Morton had 37 damaging disposals with 2 goals.

Just kidding, but I hope its something like that.

Yeh and Newton was a late inclusion, Quote "He led, he marked, he chased, he tackled, he bustled and he kicked 7 staight including one on his wrong side from 55 whilst fending off 4 opponents"

"The best individual game I've seen at this level"

[WonnaJurah 5]

Sandringham 2.2 3.3 6.6 11.9 (75)

Port Melbourne 5.2 11.10 15.13 21.16 (142)

2008 VFL Reserves

Sandringham 1.1 4.6 8.10 10.10 (70)

Port Melbourne 2.4 5.7 7.8 10.11 (71)

GOALS:

Sandringham: Zomer 2 Martyn 2 Lyall Gilchrist Petterd Williams Monaghan Lockwood

Port Melbourne: Schultz 3 Bonnici 2 Hassett 2 Mullins Siciliano Francis

BEST:

Sandringham: Gribbin Curcio Williams Fleming Petterd Monaghan

Port Melbourne: deBruin Wall Schultz Siciliano Sheldon Pearce

[alpha33 304]

YM could not have got it more wrong. It was a horrible day for the Zebras with the seniors completely outclassed going down by 67 points and the reserves losing by 1 point.

Sandringham 2.2.14 3.3.21 6.6.42 11.9.75

Port Melbourne 5.2.32 11.10.76 15.13.103 21.16.142

Cale Morton and Tom McNamara among the Zebs best IMO.

Port Melbourne

Reserves

Sandringham 1.1.7 4.6.30 8.10.58 10.10.70

Port Melbourne 2.4.16 5.7.37 7.8.50 10.11.71

Petterd played well. Newton played but didn't kick any goals.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Did he play up forward and just play out and out bad?

Or did he play a lot further up the ground?