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Young Melbourne star Jesse Hogan back running and set to pen new two year deal He is very happy at the Dees!

I said a few months ago that Pedersen got crap he didn't deserve on here that questioned his worth as a person. Got called on that comment for some reason. Have a look through this thread and don't just read the terrible jokes - comprehend the the underlying tone - it is of a a group of supporters eating alive a player for having the gall to play for our club. You can eat your humble pie but we should be showing some self-reflection about the kind of BS we spout about Demons.

What? Can't a coach give a player a spray anymore? Getting a too precious if anyone has a problem with that

I was at the game today and after reading through thie thread thought I would make some comments. Box Hill had some serious tall boys up forward, but they won it through some outstanding midfield running and a touch of class all over the field that even the MFC players didn't or couldn't match. They also won it from some of the worst kicking forward of centre from the Scorpions that I have ever seen at VFL level. I reckon the kicking today was not up to Eastern Football League Div 1 here in Melbourne. Poor old Dan Nicholson showed why he is not getting a game. I was sitting with the woman he used to board with when he first came to the club who was talking him up all day so I was watching him very closely. He hit one target by foot all day. Atrocious. Gawn. Great game. Hard work, gut running and beat big boy McEvoy in the hitouts (I think). But he does still drop some marks that only he gets his hands to. Barry. Very poor game. Nowhere near it. Nicholson. Nowhere near AFL standard. Toumpas. Needs to get into it more but did look a class above when he used it. His tackling and aggression were a real highlight. Blease. Very good game. In the VFL player reviews he has been criticised for letting his player get goal side, and that did happen twice today that I noticed, but his movement around the ground to set up the next play was very good as was his tackling. The only Dees player who today showed he is worthy of promotion. Tapscott. Some of his play was really, really good and he was confident and focused with ball in hand. Just didn't get it any where near enough. He did play a lot better than I thought he would against a very good Box Hill side. Michie. He may have got a bit of the ball but I didn't notice it during general play. His possessions didn't seem to advance the Scorpions toward goal or hurt the opposition. Strauss. He does kick well but he did absolutely nothing else. Nothing. Fitzy. Boy he goes hard at it in the air. Box Hill double teamed him all day with one player body-on-body and another coming over the top or dropping in front. He impressed me as a forward target but it seemed the other players were too dumb to cut out the third man up and give him a better chance to mark. Harmes. I was impressed with this kid. Didn't get a heap of possessions but he is a good size, makes amazing 2nd and 3rd efforts and has a genuine crack at it. What I enjoyed the most about him is I reckon he can kick well under pressure. Apart from Blease I can fully understand why Roos isn't changing the 22 too easily. He has few to choose from as genuine AFL standard alternatives. [Edit] I forgot JKH. He get to the right places with pace and zip but wasn't particularly impressive today.

Just cruising some old threads. Awesome comment here.What a difference a year makes eh?

chook versus chook, sure beats spy versus spy

lol A Melbourne fan found a way to criticise the club for NOT manipulating the system to its advantage. We have come full circle...

Trenners is an inside mid, I expect a massive pre season and him at the centre bounces next year

Well put, Hogan on the verge of signing is huge but It also signals that the club has finally turned the corner and is no longer the leper of the competition.

He would've politely told us to shove it and that he'll push his case just like every draftee. And his brother would've backed him up. Would've liked to have him but: Without the Tyson trade we would've had picks 2 and 21. Without the Vince trade we would've had picks 9 and 23. Zak Jones went at pick 15. And as good as he looked tonight I wouldn't yet trade him for Salem and the things I've seen Salem do if Jones ends up a better player than Salem it's not a drafting mistake it's just indicative of the gap in development that I hope doesn't happen.

Tom McDonald.

Michie had 30 touches and tackled hard all day. Not overly damaging with the ball but certainly wasnt a bad game

I seriously cannot understand why MFC supporters would think we would be better off without him. He's a very good option up forward and once he gets a bit more experience he will be a gem. Bird in the hand versus one in the bush.

OK North can be tomorrow's enigma when they bomb out to a team they beat by 20 goals less than 12 months ago.

Jessie set to sign 2 year deal @$500 p.a Is very happy at the Dees. Swoon http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/young-melbourne-star-jesse-hogan-back-running-and-set-to-pen-new-twoyear-deal-20140620-zsgpp.html

Let me say before he plays his first game, I am disappointed he is not on our list.

I have already apologised to Cam via the humble pie thread.....

Alex Woodward looks like Tom Scully and Billy Hartung's lovechild.

For such a big, strong and solid boy Tapscott spends a lot of time getting winded by other people.

Last night when Riewoldt marked amid 3 Swans he said "you don't expect to win those 50/50 contests". He's about as insightful as Magpie Premiership Captain Tony Shaw.

Great news! Just an aside - the sooner we move to 'high draft picks get 3 or 4 years automatically' the better...

Has anyone else heard the advertisement on SEN for a parking outfit at Melbourne Airport that starts off with a bloke whistling "It's a grand old flag" and then saying he went to Perth and saw his team get flogged but because he was so happy with the car parking services, he was thinking of changing clubs. Don't these [redacted]s know that they are p[redacted]ing off fans from their own state. I for one will never avail myself of their [redacted] services and I recommend that nobody else does unless they remove the advertisement and apologise to the Melbourne Football Club for their offensive (and misleading because we're a different team now) advertising campaign.

The great man kick started our season when he drove a DAGGER into the Blues hearts

So when's he starting negotiations for his contract extension? :D

Good overhead pack mark by Toumpas in the D50. He'll take time this kid, but I think he's worth sticking with.

When you believe something so strongly that it is essential to your ideas about yourself and the world, direct evidence to the contrary - not merely the opinions of others - is disturbing and painful. This is the state Leon Festinger called cognitive dissonance. He studied members of a cult who believed a prophecy that the world would end on a given day and prepared by giving up their jobs, worldly goods and so on, then waited for the end. It didn't come on time. They were in a dreadful state - if the prophecy was wrong, they had not only lost their material possessions, but also their core belief system. They preserved their beliefs by deciding that the computation of the date had been wrong, their actions were justified, and they had only to wait for the new date. Many Essendon supporters, though not all, believe so strongly in the goodness and superiority of their club that the mounting evidence of drug abuse and the dodgy behaviour of their club (i.e. loss of records, payoff to the coach who accepted "responsibility", etc. etc.) causes acute psychological discomfort. This is resolved by reasserting the core values and developing a conspiracy theory - "they" are out to get us, the process is crook so the evidence can be discounted, "they" do it themselves anyway. Then you turn up to the game waving a placard, "In Hird we trust", and yell loudly "Nah, nah, I can't hear you!" Of course, the new date for the end of the world eventually arrives.

You are entitled to have opinions on players and to post them. Everyone has that right. I thought Pedo was gone in the TAC cup. I was wrong. I thought Jetta was gone last year, I was wrong. I thought Jordie would struggle when we got our new mids due to his poor foot diposal. I may be right on that but he can improve it. He played a very good game last week and that sort of game will keep him in the side and good luck to him. He is the perfect 1% player a real team man, with probably one flaw, poor foot disposal, that can be improved.

It means that a team in the window gets a Key defender and we get a top 6 pick,hopefully our last for a long time Our defence is ranked 8th without Chip this year and we need more mids to cover the loss of Crossy and Bernie in time

I can't wait for a fully fit JT to hit the ground running...

This is great news. Roos' impact has been enormous.....both in practice and culture. Now for Tommy Mac and Chip.

Isn't $500k per annum about the gap payment that the afl is increasing the cap by?

I recently spent some time in New York and whilst there I went to a show on Broadway. Stayed at a hotel near Times Square and it must have been the proximity to the theatre district that inspired me to write a play which I'm entitling "Nima, the Musical". It's about a deaf, dumb, blind compounding chemist who sure cooks up a mean soup of peptides but because of his physical condition is unable to locate the recipe.

Well, in theory that should be Fitzpatrick, but he seems to have stalled for the moment. Big second half of the year?

Lovely hands in close and goes hard at the contest.

It was a general discussion. Group hug? Anyway, doesn't seem to have had any impact on Jesse's allegiance to Melbourne given recent news. He's obviously willing to put up with another 3 years of in-jokes from crazed Demonlanders.

I'm excited. I just kicked my husband in the shin after he smirked and said "he may never get on the park".

Glorious news. Two years makes perfect sense. He could be the best player in the comp by the end of 2017, or he could have snapped his back in half and never played a game - it offers a level of protection for both parties. It'll be a great relief when he puts pen to paper. I was going to be needing a medical certificate for MFCSS if the contract negotiations lingered into next year.

Rohan was sub last week and came on for about a quarter; he failed to get a possession. Not sure why everyone on here wants us to put in a bid for him.

I made reference to Jarryn Geary in another thread. Fast, neating kicking skills, goes hard at the contest and fills a need in the back half. Oh and free agent I believe. Thoughts?

Went to training, leaned nonchalantly on a tree and observed the following:- Squad was split in two, Casey and AFL side, Blease and Nicholson with Casey, Terlich and Riley with AFL side Jesse Hogan did more running, speed up a bit on some runs, had a good chat to Andrew Nicol after he finished (Nicol is Player Development Manager, assume this covers their wellbeing as well), Jesse was relaxed and happy. Asked JKH about his demotion, was starting to feel AFL level in his legs, no full preseason, and had a slight dip in form, decided it was better for him to go back to Casey get some game miles into his legs and find his mojo again. For the Clisby admirers, ready to resume next week, fitness/medical rule, you need to complete one week of full training before you are considered for a game, he says he is ready this week but has to stick with the rule, had a bad tear in the tendon in his quad that took two more weeks than it should to settle down. Had a word with one of the forgottens, Dom Barry, they are trying to build him into a fully rounded player, with ability to play halfback and midfield, utilising his natural skills, has been getting run with roles to ensure he develops his defensive side, enjoying playing at the moment with the new challenges coaches throw at him, coaching staff 'are happy' with his progress, trying to just be consistent week in week out (a theme there). Spoke to Dean Terlich, he thinks what some posters thought as well, happened to be the 7th defender at completely the wrong time when team structure changed, just has to keep playing well and wait for an opportunity to open. Last off the track by about ten minutes were Viney and Tyson, practicing picking up a loose ball at pace and kicking for goal. Again any questions feel free.

Just cracked one through the covers....

Great news, now Chip can sign and we will have a finals side for next year.

I don't need to show it to my non MFC supporters. 3 Football shows ( AFL 360, Footy classified and on the couch) not only showed it - they dissected it in minute detail!!! They each mentioned certain events within the play. The hard running , the speed and execution, the bravery of decision making and also how too many Essendon players got sucked up into the contest. Why exactly did these shows not just show it but dissect it ? This was not amateur footy stuff - this was not fundamentals - this play was poetry.. Again - you seem to be lacking understanding our game - you say that we happened to have players free. Why do you think that is ? Viney, Cross and McDonald gut ran and burned off their opponents - that is why they were free ! And McKenzie was in a lucky spot - he was very lucky to be.. umm where was he ? front and centre of the contest - what a novel place to stand !!! And I may give the final word on McKenzies performance to someone who set his role - 3 guesses who said this ? “Jordie was a great example for the other guys. He was out for five or six weeks and he just does well and he doesn’t complain and he keeps doing his role and all of a sudden, you come into the team. He played a really, really good game.”

Ugh, disgraceful. How dare we even consider playing football on a day competing directly with the Darling Harbour Children's festival. Unless it is a night game, that'd be fine. Though it'll take a lot of candles to keep the ground lit. Will there be fish and chips?

You can reduce any passage of play down to just a sequence of executed fundamentals and dismiss it. I could argue that Adam Scott winning the 2013 Masters was just a sequence of 286 fundamental golf swings, none of which were particularly special. There are also only so many 'lucky spots' you can be in before it becomes more than 'lucky', or you are purely a 'beneficiary'. And I think a purely 'unbiased' supporter would be holding off making judgement. I've seen it many times before, and it's usually premature. Especially now with Roos as the coach. As long as a player pulls on the red and blue I will support them.

Nut I'd leave Stevie alone. He's got a problem with Jordie, fails to see his good and only focus's on his bad. Jordie must have taken his girl or something. Or perhaps Stevie is a girl and Jordie dumped her - I could understand why! Having pizzed all over Jordie for weeks our man has shown up Steve for what he is. A pretty ordinary judge of this player. Just for the record Jordie won the ball against Stanton in a marking contest to get the ball to Watts and then Kent. He was also the one who won the clearance that got the ball to Jones who got it to Frawley who goaled. He was pivotal in the final play. He got the ball to Pedersen who goaled in the third. That's 4 pivotal scoring involvements in the last 40 minutes of footy - personally I reckon a "well played" is called for. But for Stevie he's just an ordinary footballer. A couple of handballs, a couple of kicks, anyone can do it.

That may be so, but in the meantime we need players that will set an example of running hard and never giving up and Jordie fits that bill. We have to change the thinking of the players and you need players like Jordie, Cross and Riley that will kill to get to the ball. Jordie sets an example that hopefully others will follow.

His contribution against Essendone was great. was involved in some of the best goals on the night including the last