I’ll back Steven May every day of the week … couple of niggles to fix, good pre season … bring on ‘26

3 hours ago, Chadda79 said:

I concur. There were obvious gaps in the teams ability, but Goodwin was stubborn and never seemed to want to change up the team despite excellent VFL form. Would've been good to leave Adams in for the last 3 games to get a taste of what's to come. We were done at that stage of the season so leaving Jefferson in and maybe giving Kentfield a crack would've given us a better idea of how these kids will go next season.

#Goodwin myths

Facts contradicting the narrative Goody was 'stubborn and never seemed to want to change up the team despite excellent VFL form':

• Round 1 dees had 5 players making their debut, including two players we drafted explicitly because of their excellent VFL form - AJ and Henderson

• Jefferson was selected in round one, unfortunately injured and when he finally put together somewhere close to a decent block of games in the VFL was given another shot at cementing his spot in the seniors and did not take it - that cycle was repeated later in the season

• Howes was selected in the ones after a decent block of games at Casey

• Culley basically played as mid at Casey, and whilst ok was never banging the doors down - Goody moved him the wing at Casey and as soon as he put a couple of better than average games together put him on the wing in the seniors (great development)

• The reality is no other player played well enough, long enough at Casey to demand a spot in the seniors

• That includes Adams who has been average at best all season at Casey and was only selected because May was out

• Further to the above point the only players who showed sustained 'excellent VFL form' is Billings (probably Caseys' best, most consistent player this season) and Laurie - and it seems both have had their cards stamped

• Goody dropped Tmac

• Goody dropped Fritter

• Goody dropped Lever

• Goody dropped JVR

• Goody dropped Kolt

• Goody dropped Windsor

• Goody dropped Langford

• Not selecting Adams, Kentfield or Jefferson in the last 3 weeks can hardly be blamed on Goody - he was no longer coach

  On the decision not to select Adams, Kentfield or Jefferson in the last 3 weeks i see the logic of not doing so as them playing at Casey increased our chances of Casey making finals, which i think is really important, and is great for their development.

  That said i would have preferred they 'managed' May and kept Adams in the team as May look cooked.

Edited Thursday at 04:403 days by binman

17 minutes ago, binman said:

Culley basically played as mid at Casey, and whilst ok was never banging the doors down - Goody moved him the wing at Casey and as soon as he put a couple of better than average games together put him on the wing in the seniors (great development)

I've sen this a few times but I think he played on a wing early at Casey then played his best when moved into the middle.

Now I'm probably totally wrong here.

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

1I've sen this a few times but I think he played on a wing early at Casey then played his best when moved into the middle.

Now I'm probably totally wrong here.

I thought he was sort of a hb/utility, then mid, then wing - but you could well be right rjay.

Either way my point stands - Cullen never consistently played to a level that demanded senior selection, even in the weeks before he debuted.

15 minutes ago, binman said:

I thought he was sort of a hb/utility, then mid, then wing - but you could well be right rjay.

Either way my point stands - Cullen never consistently played to a level that demanded senior selection, even in the weeks before he debuted.

That's true, when he started to put some good games together he was rewarded with senior selection.

On 27/08/2025 at 08:13, Redleg said:

Ralphy said last night Dogs will definitely not be after May.

Should we therefore lock him in as joining the kennel?

Why does my dad get called Ralphy malphy

6 hours ago, layzie said:

Adam I can't get my head around why it took us till Rd 22 to get Adams in. With the number of injuries and the season effectively done at mid-year, I would have loved to get a decent block of at least 6 or 7 games into him.

Would there be a valid reason why we didn't? Just seems like we missed a trick there.

Adams clearly should have played against WC in round 22. That would have been a far better introduction against a team that is barely VFL standard, rather than throwing him straight in against a red-hot Naughton a week later.

In hindsight Adams also should have played against Collingwood given how poor May was for most of the night.

Re Adams, he is very fast for a big lad. When he gets a clean run and jump at the ball as an interceptor, he looks a awesome. However, at this stage he cannot compete 1-1 with senior AFL players.

He's a good size for a KPD and has gotten bigger and fitter each year. He is not ready to replace Steven May, but he might be able to compete for that 3rd tall role in '26 and beyond.

Edited Thursday at 05:523 days by MrFreeze

30 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Why does my dad get called Ralphy malphy

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

35 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Why does my dad get called Ralphy malphy

He is obviously a fan of the TV show Happy Days.

Ralph Malph was one of the characters on the show.

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Mature back ..

Oh... Tom said to say hello 👋

The problem is if we play TMac in the firsts then he isnt in the VFL to help develop our young backs. My understanding of his role is to provide cover if a key back is injured while helping to develop our young backs in the VFL.

1 hour ago, poita said:

In hindsight Adams also should have played against Collingwood given how poor May was for most of the night.

May had 23 disposals including 12 marks. (and second in the fantasy points, whatever that is)

Adams averages less than 10 disposals at Casey.

If there's no room in the backline line for either Adams and Howes next year. Are they good prospects as forwards?

Despite May getting roundly criticised for his two performances against Hawthorn and Collingwood he actually got coaches votes in one of those games, would you believe?

42 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Despite May getting roundly criticised for his two performances against Hawthorn and Collingwood he actually got coaches votes in one of those games, would you believe?

He looked super cooked

Some of his strengths with us have been marking, kicking penetration/accuracy, body strength in 1:1s, speed off the mark, and positioning.

The majority of those show signs of having dropped off below par

He's useless below the knees and his painful disappointment at teammates is culture-killing.

Is it time to go with Adams? I'm sure May will have his good games, and it might be painful to watch Adams' development, but we have to plan for the next 10 year key back

17 hours ago, binman said:

l l #Goodwin myths

Facts contradicting the narrative Goody was 'stubborn and never seemed to want to change up the team despite excellent VFL form':

• Round 1 dees had 5 players making their debut, including two players we drafted explicitly because of their excellent VFL form - AJ and Henderson

• Jefferson was selected in round one, unfortunately injured and when he finally put together somewhere close to a decent block of games in the VFL was given another shot at cementing his spot in the seniors and did not take it - that cycle was repeated later in the season

• Howes was selected in the ones after a decent block of games at Casey

• Culley basically played as mid at Casey, and whilst ok was never banging the doors down - Goody moved him the wing at Casey and as soon as he put a couple of better than average games together put him on the wing in the seniors (great development)

• The reality is no other player played well enough, long enough at Casey to demand a spot in the seniors

• That includes Adams who has been average at best all season at Casey and was only selected because May was out

• Further to the above point the only players who showed sustained 'excellent VFL form' is Billings (probably Caseys' best, most consistent player this season) and Laurie - and it seems both have had their cards stamped

• Goody dropped Tmac

• Goody dropped Fritter

• Goody dropped Lever

• Goody dropped JVR

• Goody dropped Kolt

• Goody dropped Windsor

• Goody dropped Langford

• Not selecting Adams, Kentfield or Jefferson in the last 3 weeks can hardly be blamed on Goody - he was no longer coach

  On the decision not to select Adams, Kentfield or Jefferson in the last 3 weeks i see the logic of not doing so as them playing at Casey increased our chances of Casey making finals, which i think is really important, and is great for their development.

  That said i would have preferred they 'managed' May and kept Adams in the team as May look cooked.

Sorry Binman while most of your posts are very astute and well informed you've made a few contradictory comments here.

Jeffo when last dropped had actually played his best string of games.

Tmac being dropped was playing well. So he was dropped out of stubbornness to play Lever.

Fritta while ultimately dropped should have been done at least three weeks prior to when he was.

Jvr see Fritta, if not more so. Windsor too.

Then we have Petty played out of position for two years.

Laurie as the sub for Gus after Maynard knocked Gus out. Laurie had played five games and some as a sub . And then picked in a huge final.

Grundy excluded from finals.

He was stubborn.

Or at the very least reactive instead of proactive.

As one example, Turner would be moved fwd after the game was often done and dusted.

There are others.

Your deference and support of a premiership coach is commendable but I think his inflexibility was part of the reason he was finally removed.

He did try Rivers in the middle and a few other things but he wouldn't take big gambles like moving KP to ff or Jvr in defence. The st Kilda game debacle was a great example. He did nothing.

We all just watched as if in slow motion and Goody seemed like a deer in headlights.

I think that was the end of him.

Edited Thursday at 22:363 days by Previously known as LITD.

57 minutes ago, Previously known as LITD. said:

Sorry Binman while most of your posts are very astute and well informed you've made a few contradictory comments here.

Jeffo when last dropped had actually played his best string of games.

Tmac being dropped was playing well. So he was dropped out of stubbornness to play Lever.

Fritta while ultimately dropped should have been done at least three weeks prior to when he was.

Jvr see Fritta, if not more so. Windsor too.

Then we have Petty played out of position for two years.

Laurie as the sub for Gus after Maynard knocked Gus out. Laurie had played five games and some as a sub . And then picked in a huge final.

Grundy excluded from finals.

He was stubborn.

Or at the very least reactive instead of proactive.

As one example, Turner would be moved fwd after the game was often done and dusted.

There are others.

Your deference and support of a premiership coach is commendable but I think his inflexibility was part of the reason he was finally removed.

He did try Rivers in the middle and a few other things but he wouldn't take big gambles like moving KP to ff or Jvr in defence. The st Kilda game debacle was a great example. He did nothing.

We all just watched as if in slow motion and Goody seemed like a deer in headlights.

I think that was the end of him.

They are the sort of comments about Goody having no plan B, or not trying something to change a losing game, that I heard from all of my Dees mates.

12 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Despite May getting roundly criticised for his two performances against Hawthorn and Collingwood he actually got coaches votes in one of those games, would you believe?

Craig McRae was thankful for the few errors leading up goals.

Jokes aside, he made a few clangers against Collingwood but had a solid performance overall, but guess when you lose by 6 points these things are often highlighted - as they were in the media.

May is more than a handy FB. That said time can be cruel and it is definitely catching him. May is now part of a wall where as he WAS one once. That not to have a go at him just calling it as it is. He no longer has full dexterity. He struggles a little at times and hes not alone on the team at being frustrated that these things are now his reality.

I can't see Steve being part of our next tilt. I can't see a few others either. So 🤔.. is May on that list of players no longer "absolutely required" ??

Unfortunately for May he isn't going to get better as a player. How long before he ( like any player can get ) becomes more a liability than an asset ?

Has he still another year of really good footy in him ?? Is it time we move the magnets ??

Whoever is taking on the reigns of this team has some very important decisions. Not the least of which is how and where the likes of May, Lever dare I say TMac sit in among plans going forward.

There may well be (npi) other factors to consider.

Coming months will be enlightening for sure.

4 hours ago, Previously known as LITD. said:

Sorry Binman while most of your posts are very astute and well informed you've made a few contradictory comments here.

Jeffo when last dropped had actually played his best string of games.

Tmac being dropped was playing well. So he was dropped out of stubbornness to play Lever.

Fritta while ultimately dropped should have been done at least three weeks prior to when he was.

Jvr see Fritta, if not more so. Windsor too.

Then we have Petty played out of position for two years.

Laurie as the sub for Gus after Maynard knocked Gus out. Laurie had played five games and some as a sub . And then picked in a huge final.

Grundy excluded from finals.

He was stubborn.

Or at the very least reactive instead of proactive.

As one example, Turner would be moved fwd after the game was often done and dusted.

There are others.

Your deference and support of a premiership coach is commendable but I think his inflexibility was part of the reason he was finally removed.

He did try Rivers in the middle and a few other things but he wouldn't take big gambles like moving KP to ff or Jvr in defence. The st Kilda game debacle was a great example. He did nothing.

We all just watched as if in slow motion and Goody seemed like a deer in headlights.

I think that was the end of him.

The Saints games ended Goody's time with us. You're 100% right, he did nothing to stop the onslaught. That and the 7.24 game earlier on were signs his time was up.

I think if May thinks he can go on somewhere else we let him go, and whatever we get for him we get.

If he wants to stay that's also ok, but the new coach makes it clear that he has to earn his spot, his body needs to be 100% and he has to be 100% on board with the game plan.

I do think re-signing T-Mac makes it interesting for May, i think if he can get his body pretty good, he would still be very valuable in a strong defensive side, like a Sydney, Collingwood or even Freo.

On 26/08/2025 at 09:13, titan_uranus said:

For anyone still wondering, the “more than likely” gone quote is click bait. The actual quote from the article is:

“While he’s contracted for 2026 at Melbourne, it’s more than likely he will be a victim of a list shake-up under the new incoming coach given there will be a thirst for change and May has enough crosses next to his name to be an easy cut.”

Just speculation from the journalist, Scott Gullan.

Jeebus Haristos, alleged journalists putting their own comments as 'quotes' heading an article is a premium grade peeve.

23 hours ago, Fritta and Turner said:

May had 23 disposals including 12 marks. (and second in the fantasy points, whatever that is)

Adams averages less than 10 disposals at Casey.

Come on Fritta, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story! Some posters wouldnt know their areshole from their elbow

WHO GETS THE 'REVERSE COLEMAN'?

JEREMY Cameron won the Coleman Medal in a canter, kicking 83 goals in the home and away season ahead of Ben King's tally of 69. But what about the 'reverse Coleman'?

The reverse Coleman relates to the defenders who have conceded the most goals to their opponents throughout the year and the title goes to Port Adelaide's Aliir Aliir this year.

The Port backman conceded 49 goals this season, often taking the opposition's best forward in a tough season for both Port Adelaide and Aliir, who battled injuries to continue to take the field late in the campaign

Richmond's Ben Miller (46 goals) was next most along with Carlton's Jacob Weitering, with Bulldog Rory Lobb and West Coast's Reuben Ginbey (44) the next most conceded. Steven May (43), Luke Ryan (42) and Callum Wilkie (42) were after that on the list, with Ryan the only player from a finalist side in the top list of the reverse Coleman.

But what about the 'reverse reverse Coleman?' The players who conceded the fewest goals… We put a minimum 20 games played to get the best measure of the stingiest defenders, with the results showing the half-backs to lead the way.

Champion Data's referencing includes all players whose primary position for the year was as a defender, meaning those who played some midfield time are included. Under that model, the players with the fewest goals conceded (with a minimum of 20 games played), were Port skipper Connor Rozee and Fremantle backman Bailey Banfield with nine each

yes he takes the best forward, but even being on this list shows he has had a decline, at 33yo surely that only worsens next year