10 hours ago, old dee said:

Spot on bb. Brown played a big part in our team in 2021. Geelong has shown over years how good grabbing a good quality player near the end of his career can work. I forget his name but they grabbed a hawthorn player at the end of his career a few years back who ended winning the Norm Smith.

Isaac Smith.

Its easy to look good when you have Daicos, Pendlebury, Sidebottom etc delivering the ball inside 50. How will he go getting delivery from Viney, Oliver, Langdon etc?

On 17/09/2025 at 19:23, Rednblueriseing said:

Yep agree, we really need a experienced key forward to show the way for Roo, kentfield, and jeffo to hopefully take over KF in 2 years. Good move if we get BM

If Kentfield and Jefferson are still on our list in 2 years I'll be amazed.

I also think people are over-rating Melkshams season, he had a standout game against the Lions and a couple of other good games but was far from effective too often. Regularly tried to take the lazy option calling for the ball out the back/trying to take speccies on his opponent and not great at applying forward pressure either. If we didn't have such a poor list/forward line he wouldn't have got another year.

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If Kentfield and Jefferson are still on our list in 2 years I'll be amazed.

I also think people are over-rating Melkshams season, he had a standout game against the Lions and a couple of other good games but was far from effective too often. Regularly tried to take the lazy option calling for the ball out the back/trying to take speccies on his opponent and not great at applying forward pressure either. If we didn't have such a poor list/forward line he wouldn't have got another year.

Getting a little bit bullish on Kentfield, hoping he has an impressive pre-season.

I'm in favour of adding Brody to the list for various reasons but hopefully the powers to be are looking at tall and small options for the forward line

4 hours ago, doc roet said:

Isaac Smith.

Was that the guy who did his shoulder in a final? He was a mature-age, pack marking forward.

1 minute ago, bush demon said:

Was that the guy who did his shoulder in a final? He was a mature-age, pack marking forward.

James Podsiadly?

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I also think people are over-rating Melkshams season, he had a standout game against the Lions and a couple of other good games but was far from effective too often. Regularly tried to take the lazy option calling for the ball out the back/trying to take speccies on his opponent and not great at applying forward pressure either. If we didn't have such a poor list/forward line he wouldn't have got another year.

Spot on. A lot of emphasis on the Andrews game. Very little on the Wilkie, Ratugolea, etc games.

The speccies, attempts at super-high-degree-of-difficulty goals, lack of pressure and recidivism on the over-the-nine 50 metre penalty made me question whether I was watching a different player to other supporters.

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If Kentfield and Jefferson are still on our list in 2 years I'll be amazed.

I also think people are over-rating Melkshams season, he had a standout game against the Lions and a couple of other good games but was far from effective too often. Regularly tried to take the lazy option calling for the ball out the back/trying to take speccies on his opponent and not great at applying forward pressure either. If we didn't have such a poor list/forward line he wouldn't have got another year.

The main thing I'd be wanting to get from BM coming in (and maybe a new assistant as well) is some improved forward craft / structure (not saying this isn't something they've been trying to fix for a while). How are our young key forwards meant to develop when there are so few (any?) natural forwards at the club. I rate Melksham and Fritsch but because of their size and skillset have to play differently to key forwards and are often trying to get out the back rather than come at the ball carrier. I don't think this works for your main focal point to play like that. Kentfield, Jefferson and JVR all have shown potential... but its only potential. Someone like BM could be a huge help in helping us structure up on field.

Not sure the extent of King's connections and other priorities / contractual limitations etc but would love to see him try and bring in someone like Tom Hawkins to help coach the forwardline. Though I despised him as a player, he did seem to get better with time (suggests someone who relies on their brain rather than athleticism) and is well known for creating goals (through assists) rather than just kicking them himself. I think it's probably been as long as the days of Neitz / Robertson (other than some brief stints from Brown, Hogan, Clarke etc) that we've had a true key forward leader in the forward line.

4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Its easy to look good when you have Daicos, Pendlebury, Sidebottom etc delivering the ball inside 50. How will he go getting delivery from Viney, Oliver, Langdon etc?

And if that issue is not addressed it won’t matter who we have up forward. I don’t know why Goodwin tolerated that long bombing/hack kicking forward by the experienced old guard for so long after he said he was trying to fix the so called lack of forward connection! There should have been consequences, experienced players dropped if they continued to kick long, burning players closer and in better positions.

I hope King is very strong on this glaring flaw in our game style.

Luka Kentfield has shown some promise. He can lead, mark and kick strait. A pre-season could do him wonders.

JVR needs to turn back the clock to his debut season. Jettison the malaise of the last two seasons. Clay in the hands of a good succeeding senior coach?

Edited September 19, 2025Sep 19 by Tarax Club

Brody Mihocek is dealing with significant pain and was a no-show for Collingwood’s captain’s run on Friday.

Ummmm …

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Brody Mihocek is dealing with significant pain and was a no-show for Collingwood’s captain’s run on Friday.

Ummmm …

McStay?

17 minutes ago, Redleg said:

McStay?

Personally, I hope he McLeaves…

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Brody Mihocek is dealing with significant pain and was a no-show for Collingwood’s captain’s run on Friday.

Ummmm …

A 33yo with foot problems… we should make a play for him.

Am I right that the Pies have offered him 2 years at $X.

I'd offer 2 years at $X + 125k with tough triggers for year three.

We are continually burnt by contract lengths

tim lamb last spotted lurking with a re-upped four year deal...

26 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

A 33yo with foot problems… we should make a play for him.

He currently has an injured toe. That can be easily fixed.

I have always liked BM but he is the sort of player we should have chased hard a couple of seasons ago with decent dollars but at his age now a risky proposition. From what I understand Collingwood have been paying him peanuts not commensurate with his output for his career. They always treated him like a bread and butter player and not surprised if they want to move him on.

5 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

He currently has an injured toe. That can be easily fixed.

chop it off?

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

chop it off?

... and cart it away on a toe truck?

33 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

... and cart it away on a toe truck?

How did I know that was coming?

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I also think people are over-rating Melkshams season, he had a standout game against the Lions and a couple of other good games but was far from effective too often. Regularly tried to take the lazy option calling for the ball out the back/trying to take speccies on his opponent and not great at applying forward pressure either. If we didn't have such a poor list/forward line he wouldn't have got another year.

I would think he's a quazi coach, hopefully he's been told it's going to be a non-automatic selction season, but he's to help JVR, Jeffo and Kenterfeild with their leading patters and be happy to play . Mihocek will also help in this regard.

Might be a late out tomorrow.

23 hours ago, Demonstone said:

He's a free agent.

When I see you two posting

1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

When I see you two posting

Always look for the Keith Richards avatar!